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Title: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Monster Dave on November 14, 2008, 01:25:20 PM
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/jalopnik/2008/11/9ff-gt9-r.jpg)

Sources say that under the hood of this mild mannered GT9R lurks an insane 1120HP engine....that should but a nice dent in the Veyron's title of "fastest production car".
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: teddy037.2 on November 14, 2008, 01:32:53 PM
wow!
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: stateprez on November 14, 2008, 01:33:30 PM
The original 9ff GT9 had no traction control at 910 hp....if this one continues the trend more will be crashed than the Carrera GT.
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Monster Dave on November 14, 2008, 01:37:06 PM
Quote from: stateprez on November 14, 2008, 01:33:30 PM
The original 9ff GT9 had no traction control at 910 hp....if this one continues the trend more will be crashed than the Carrera GT.

That's puts it with a top speed over 250mph.  :o
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Mother on November 14, 2008, 01:38:03 PM
Quote from: stateprez on November 14, 2008, 01:33:30 PM
The original 9ff GT9 had no traction control at 910 hp....if this one continues the trend more will be crashed than the Carrera GT.


all cars have traction control

called a right foot
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Monster Dave on November 14, 2008, 01:48:42 PM
Quote from: Mother on November 14, 2008, 01:38:03 PM

all cars have traction control

called a right foot

Someone should then fly over to Ducati in Italy and tell them that they are wasting money putting it on thier bikes then!!!  [cheeky]
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Mother on November 14, 2008, 01:52:36 PM
Quote from: Monster Dave on November 14, 2008, 01:48:42 PM
Someone should then fly over to Ducati in Italy and tell them that they are wasting money putting it on thier bikes then!!!  [cheeky]

Quote from: Mother on November 14, 2008, 01:38:03 PM

all cars have traction control

called a right foot


when did ducati start making cars.... :P






;D
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: stateprez on November 14, 2008, 01:55:25 PM
Quote from: Monster Dave on November 14, 2008, 01:48:42 PM
Someone should then fly over to Ducati in Italy and tell them that they are wasting money putting it on thier bikes then!!!  [cheeky]

You could add BMW Sauber, McLaren Mercedes, Williams Toyota, Ferrari, etc to the list as well.
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: SP3 on November 14, 2008, 02:53:52 PM
ugly.
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: DucMouse the Mighty on November 14, 2008, 02:56:56 PM
Quote from: Monster Dave on November 14, 2008, 01:37:06 PM
That's puts it with a top speed over 250mph.  :o

holy make the beast with two backs balls  :o
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: NAKID on November 14, 2008, 03:13:38 PM
Yeah. Looks like a race car, not a street car like the Veyron....
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Rob Hilding on November 14, 2008, 03:45:54 PM
Quote from: SP3 on November 14, 2008, 02:53:52 PM
ugly.

Not nearly as ugly as the Veyron
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: NAKID on November 14, 2008, 03:46:35 PM
To each his own...
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Scottish on November 14, 2008, 04:00:21 PM
Yeah? I wouldn't kick either of them out of bed.... but my wife would have to find some where else to sleep.... or I would more likely.  :P
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Randimus Maximus on November 14, 2008, 06:35:59 PM
Quote from: NAKID on November 14, 2008, 03:13:38 PM
Yeah. Looks like a race car, not a street car like the Veyron....

and if someone threw you the keys, you say "no thanks", right?

[roll]
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Mother on November 14, 2008, 06:40:24 PM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 14, 2008, 06:35:59 PM
and if someone threw you the keys, you say "no thanks", right?

[roll]


my bet is that car has no "keys"

fuel pump switch  [thumbsup]
Ignition switch  [thumbsup]
PTS Switch  [thumbsup]

buttpucker

[leo]
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Randimus Maximus on November 14, 2008, 07:40:57 PM
Quote from: Mother on November 14, 2008, 06:40:24 PM

my bet is that car has no "keys"

fuel pump switch  [thumbsup]
Ignition switch  [thumbsup]
PTS Switch  [thumbsup]

buttpucker

[leo]

In that case, NAKID prolly wouldn't be able to figure out how to get it started!  ;D
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: NeufUnSix on November 15, 2008, 08:26:01 AM
It's not exactly a head-to-head is it?

Veyron - comfy, uber-GT car that weighs as much as a small house and has millions of dollars worth of fancy fittings to cosset the driver and impress the proletariat.
GT9 - Harsh, widowmaking, stripped out, lightweight, race-oriented, not-quite-streetable maniac of a car that will sooner tear your head off and spit it out the exhaust than give you a relaxed ride.
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: NAKID on November 15, 2008, 08:54:46 AM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 14, 2008, 06:35:59 PM
and if someone threw you the keys, you say "no thanks", right?

[roll]

no way. I'd take the car and sell it to someone with more money than me.
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: eltristo on November 15, 2008, 09:32:52 AM
I know I tend to be behind the times, but I thought this guy (Shelby SuperCars Ultimate Aero) was the new champ.

(http://i38.tinypic.com/2v9pwti.jpg)

I know it outran the Veyron at, I believe, 156 mph.   Though it's got fewer horses than the GT9R at "only" 1183. 
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Randimus Maximus on November 15, 2008, 09:35:58 AM
do you mean 256mph?  Veyron went 253.81.
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: stateprez on November 15, 2008, 10:52:26 AM
Quote from: NeufUnSix on November 15, 2008, 08:26:01 AM
It's not exactly a head-to-head is it?

Veyron - comfy, uber-GT car that weighs as much as a small house and has millions of dollars worth of fancy fittings to cosset the driver and impress the proletariat.
GT9 - Harsh, widowmaking, stripped out, lightweight, race-oriented, not-quite-streetable maniac of a car that will sooner tear your head off and spit it out the exhaust than give you a relaxed ride.

My thoughts exactly...

Here's a test video of the G1-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffYokJgg5s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ffYokJgg5s)
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: gojira on November 15, 2008, 11:08:17 AM

I wonder how balanced it would be considering Porsche's typical rear-weight bias. Add a bigger engine and hope to God they balanced the front a bit more and cut the Maalox moments with those things.


Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: eltristo on November 15, 2008, 01:48:09 PM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 15, 2008, 09:35:58 AM
do you mean 256mph?  Veyron went 253.81.

OOPS!  Mistype.  Yes, 256 mph.
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: SP3 on November 15, 2008, 02:48:54 PM
Quote from: bozcorob on November 14, 2008, 03:45:54 PM
Not nearly as ugly as the Veyron

yep, Veyron is ugly too.
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: ejw24 on November 15, 2008, 03:12:13 PM
Quote from: NeufUnSix on November 15, 2008, 08:26:01 AM
Veyron - comfy, uber-GT car that weighs as much as a small house and has millions of dollars worth of fancy fittings to cosset the driver and impress the proletariat.

Say what you must, but until you've ridden in one you have no idea what the experience is like.
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on November 15, 2008, 03:17:19 PM
Quote from: ejw24 on November 15, 2008, 03:12:13 PM
Say what you must, but until you've ridden in one you have no idea what the experience is like.

There's nothing wrong with drawing a conclusion based on what the cars list for amenities. One does not need to ride in my militarty jeep, top down, in the snow, to assume it is miserably uncomfortable.
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: lethe on November 15, 2008, 03:27:00 PM
I wish I could afford a Veyron. I'd actually be nutty enough to strip out the bullshit in order to get the weight down. This is probably why I'm not destined for such things.
When you lay your head down tonight to go to bed, pray to your deity of choice that I hit some sort of lotto so that you can witness such behavior. I give you my word I'd really do it.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: pintsizejesus on November 15, 2008, 04:11:46 PM
Quote from: gojira on November 15, 2008, 11:08:17 AM
I wonder how balanced it would be considering Porsche's typical rear-weight bias. Add a bigger engine and hope to God they balanced the front a bit more and cut the Maalox moments with those things.

I saw an article where they went with a middle based engine and used a Cayman frame but stretched it out.  I think it was a Cayman frame, I read it quickly.  And I think the reason it looks so much like a race car is because of it's paint job.  If it was a solid color it would look more docile but that's just me.
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: SP3 on November 15, 2008, 04:30:36 PM
Quote from: somebastid on November 15, 2008, 03:17:19 PM
There's nothing wrong with drawing a conclusion based on what the cars list for amenities. One does not need to ride in my militarty jeep, top down, in the snow, to assume it is miserably uncomfortable.

I spent plenty of time in M151's to know that I still want one now 20+ years on. Easily one of the most fun vehicles on Earth.
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Scottish on November 15, 2008, 09:06:28 PM
Quote from: NeufUnSix on November 15, 2008, 08:26:01 AM
It's not exactly a head-to-head is it?

Veyron - comfy, uber-GT car that weighs as much as a small house and has millions of dollars worth of fancy fittings to cosset the driver and impress the proletariat.
GT9 - Harsh, widowmaking, stripped out, lightweight, race-oriented, not-quite-streetable maniac of a car that will sooner tear your head off and spit it out the exhaust than give you a relaxed ride.
ohhhh....man. I love it when you talk dirty. [evil]
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: NeufUnSix on November 16, 2008, 06:58:14 AM
Personally I'd take the Veyron because I'd rather ride in the utmost luxury at stupendous speeds than, you know, die flying ass-forward off the road.
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Monster Dave on November 17, 2008, 06:19:43 AM
We went to the Concorso Italiano car show in Scottsdale, AZ this past weekend and got the take a look at the Veyron up close and see what 1.8 million dollars will buy. It's nice, but for that much money I'd rather have a garage with a few classic Ferrari's and Lambo's to choose from. What good is it to be able to drive 256 mph when (other than the track) you can't possably drive that fast unless you're that idiot from Malibu who wrecked the Enzo back in '06.

(http://www.wreckedexotics.com/special/enzo/ferrari_enzo_crash_005.jpg)

[laugh] ....idiot:

(http://www.wreckedexotics.com/special/enzo/ferrari_enzo_crash_003.jpg)

I just googled the accident and a witness was quoted as saying that the car went airborn which is apperantly why the accident happened.....

....you mean that an Enzo doesn't come with a flying conversion (a la BTTF2)??

(http://media.moddb.com/cache/images/mods/1/9/8553/thumb_620x2000/gta-vc_2007-11-14_03-08-59-95.jpg)


Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: stateprez on November 17, 2008, 07:42:55 AM
^ That Enzo was wrecked by the dumbass/con artist who started the Gizmondo gaming system....I think he's in prison now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Eriksson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Eriksson)

Edit:  He was released in January....and deported.
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Monster Dave on November 17, 2008, 09:47:40 AM
Quote from: stateprez on November 17, 2008, 07:42:55 AM
^ That Enzo was wrecked by the dumbass/con artist who started the Gizmondo gaming system....I think he's in prison now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Eriksson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Eriksson)

Edit:  He was released in January....and deported.

...people that retarded should have their license forever revoked in every country!!!
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Bick on November 17, 2008, 10:22:48 AM
Quote from: Monster Dave on November 17, 2008, 09:47:40 AM
...people that retarded should have their license forever revoked in every country!!!

That seems a little extreme...

Just castrated and hanged by the neck until dead, dead, dead should suffice.
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Monster Dave on November 17, 2008, 11:21:17 AM
Quote from: Bick on November 17, 2008, 10:22:48 AM
That seems a little extreme...

Just castrated and hanged by the neck until dead, dead, dead should suffice.


[cheeky]
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Spicoli on November 19, 2008, 03:40:09 PM
There is already a production car that is faster than the veyron... i can't remember the name, but it is RWD IIRC and it has a style more like the Saleen, I think it looks good.  I will find the information and post it up, Jay Leno did some test driving of it.  Plus it is a lot cheaper than a veyron and an american company.
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Bick on November 19, 2008, 05:15:23 PM
Are you thinking of the Koenigsegg CCX?

(http://www.realismpictures.com/drupal/files/koenigsegg.jpg)
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Statler on November 19, 2008, 05:41:40 PM
Quote from: Spicoli on November 19, 2008, 03:40:09 PM
There is already a production car that is faster than the veyron... i can't remember the name, but it is RWD IIRC and it has a style more like the Saleen, I think it looks good.  I will find the information and post it up, Jay Leno did some test driving of it.  Plus it is a lot cheaper than a veyron and an american company.

Vector?  New car hasn't been proven yet (even built...I thought it was just a press release about what was to be) and the old one wasn't exactly a success.

btw, the last review of the veyron I read discussed the ten radiators being rather loud, and the sound volume at speed was anything but luxurious.  One of the loudest cars tested.

Which doesn't mean it's bad...just that we're all blowing smoke until any of us actually drive one.

posters on the wall are cool and all but......

Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: NAKID on November 19, 2008, 05:46:32 PM
I volunteer to test drive it and report back here with the results... ;D
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Randimus Maximus on November 19, 2008, 06:04:37 PM
Quote from: Bick on November 17, 2008, 10:22:48 AM
That seems a little extreme...

Just castrated and hanged by the neck until dead, dead, dead should suffice.

You can go to hell, hell, hell.
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: NAKID on November 19, 2008, 06:33:30 PM
What did he do to you Randy?
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Randimus Maximus on November 19, 2008, 06:37:06 PM
Quote from: NAKID on November 19, 2008, 06:33:30 PM
What did he do to you Randy?

sorry...had the quote slightly off.
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: eltristo on November 19, 2008, 08:33:02 PM
Quote from: Spicoli on November 19, 2008, 03:40:09 PM
There is already a production car that is faster than the veyron... i can't remember the name, but it is RWD IIRC and it has a style more like the Saleen, I think it looks good.  I will find the information and post it up, Jay Leno did some test driving of it.  Plus it is a lot cheaper than a veyron and an american company.

Not to broken record too badly here, but are you thinking, perhaps, of this?

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=15027.msg261492#msg261492 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=15027.msg261492#msg261492)
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Randimus Maximus on November 19, 2008, 08:37:56 PM
an inter-thread derby?  ???
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: eltristo on November 19, 2008, 08:44:19 PM
intra-thread, my randy friend.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on November 19, 2008, 08:48:11 PM
Quote from: elTristo on November 19, 2008, 08:44:19 PM
intra-thread, my randy friend.  [thumbsup]

How...intra-string!
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Randimus Maximus on November 19, 2008, 09:01:00 PM
Quote from: elTristo on November 19, 2008, 08:44:19 PM
intra-thread, my randy friend.  [thumbsup]

I may be Randy, but not randy.

All at the same time, no less  ;)

And for the record, I met inter, in a Hawaiian Interstate kinda way  [evil]
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: eltristo on November 19, 2008, 09:04:17 PM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 19, 2008, 09:01:00 PM
I may be Randy, but not randy.

Never ever?

All at the same time, no less  ;)

And for the record, I met inter, in a Hawaiian Interstate kinda way  [evil]

Where's the 'thumbs in ears and tongue out' smiley?
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: BellissiMoto on November 21, 2008, 11:34:19 AM
sooo when is this car actually supposed to be produced?
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: teddy037.2 on November 21, 2008, 01:30:05 PM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 19, 2008, 09:01:00 PM
And for the record, I met inter, in a Hawaiian Interstate kinda way  [evil]

shoosh!  [laugh]
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: eltristo on November 21, 2008, 02:13:56 PM
Quote from: BellissiMoto on November 21, 2008, 11:34:19 AM
sooo when is this car actually supposed to be produced?
It already is.  And if you live in Las Vegas or Dubai, you can go down to the dealer and pick one up!
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Jarvicious on November 21, 2008, 04:58:45 PM
Quote from: somebastid on November 19, 2008, 08:48:11 PM
How...intra-string!

What the....I didn't know my father owned a Monster!  If I lived anywhere near you, you would have been hit with a rolled up newspaper by now. 
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: eltristo on November 22, 2008, 11:34:07 AM
Quote from: Jarvicious on November 21, 2008, 04:58:45 PM
What the....I didn't know my father owned a Monster!  If I lived anywhere near you, you would have been hit with a rolled up newspaper by now. 

Did he poop on the floor again?
;D
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: Randimus Maximus on November 22, 2008, 08:40:49 PM
I'm really disappointed nobody caught the Young Guns II reference.

Bicks thought I was mad at him (ha ha)
Title: Re: The Destroyer of the Veyron!
Post by: eltristo on November 22, 2008, 11:16:01 PM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 22, 2008, 08:40:49 PM
I'm really disappointed nobody caught the Young Guns II reference.

Bicks thought I was mad at him (ha ha)

There was a Young Guns II?