The NY Times has a fair review of not just this album, but the circus of the last 15+ years since the Use Your Illusion albums premiered.
Short version - not that surprising, way over-produced, and not too believable.
"How Axl Rose Spent All That Time"
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/23/arts/music/23pare.html?hp (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/23/arts/music/23pare.html?hp)
I think I'll pass on it.
Guns n Roses suck. [roll]
"Guns-n-Roses" (if one can even call him/them that now) WAS a great rock band that unfortunately very quickly deteriorated into a train wreck.
Even with as much talent as Axl may have, without at least Slash, "they" are no GnR.
That being said, I'll likely still buy it.
Buckethead's pretty amazing.
IMHO, there's not many bands that I think are as incredible as GNR was at their prime. That said, I don't care for the new single. Heard it a few times. Meh.
Aside from Axl's voice, there's nothing there that even slightly resembles GNR. He should have called it anything but GNR. Sad, sad, sad.
As you can probably guess, I'll pass.
Quote from: Timmy Tucker on November 20, 2008, 02:49:06 PM
IMHO, there's not many bands that I think are as incredible as GNR was at their prime. That said, I don't care for the new single. Heard it a few times. Meh.
+1
I'll give it a listen (somehow, if someone I know buys it) but I have my doubts I'll get it myself unless the rest is waaaaaaaaaay better than the single.
I won't be buying it. GnR is no more and just because Axl fronts a band called Guns n Roses doesn't mean it's the same thing.
Only plus side is, Dr. Pepper is giving everyone in America a Dr. Pepper... http://cbs4.com/consumer/chinese.democracy.drink.2.869325.html
There's a review of it on AV Club (http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/chuck_klosterman_reviews) thats seems to be quite favorable. Still, I'll probably take a pass and wait for a copy to hit the local public library system.
Hey, at least you can get a free 20 oz bottle of Dr. Pepper! [thumbsup] Not a big soda drinker, but the Doc is my fav.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27350676/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27350676/)
I've heard a few tracks off of it
I like it
I'll buy it
it's no use your illusion but it far out shines the spaghetti incident
I like axl least of all out of GnR but I was sadly dissappointed when Velvet Revolver started releasing old GnR tunes with Weiland puking the lyrics
initially I liked it but he was trying too hard to be axl
Illusion was a crock and was the recording that made me a believer in illegal downloads... to spread 5 goods songs over 2 cds just to make us buy the second pissed me off(and cd's were like $17 back then too). And the record industry wonders why they are in trouble. >:( I need a middle finger smiley.
Quote from: WannaDucBad on November 21, 2008, 09:27:11 AM
Illusion was a crock and was the recording that made me a believer in illegal downloads... to spread 5 goods songs over 2 cds just to make us buy the second pissed me off(and cd's were like $17 back then too). And the record industry wonders why they are in trouble. >:( I need a middle finger smiley.
CD?
dewd
Illusion came out on tape
I had it on cds... in High School. Tape was Appetite for Destruction.... Illusion released in CD's they were super expensive back then though.... of course super expensive is relative.
Release Details
Format: Album
Released: 9/17/1991
Label: Geffen
Editions: Album Length Cassette, Album Length Compact Disc
the illusion albums had a great mix of artists
from Alice Cooper and Shanon Hoon doing vocals
to
Mike Monroe and Aaron Arkeen penning lyrics and playing backup
I really liked both those albums
wore the tapes out twice
Coma was by far my favorite track
i've only heard a couple tracks, and i have to say. it's most definately not worth the wait.
part of it is the mix for democracy, for me, it's WAY off.
and buckethead kicks ass.
It can never live up to the hype of making people wait since 94. That said I'm going to buy it. May not be as
good as the old GnR but still better than alot of other cd's being sold right now
I think you can listen to most of it on myspace. i haven't had time to digest it yet.
Let's face it, Guns had exactly one (1) great album and that was Appetite. The rest was all drama and stage presence.
"It's easy to imagine Mr. Rose determined to outdo his own brazen youth and his old band, but with less perspective and hundreds of new tracks as each year goes by. If Guns N' Roses had released “Chinese Democracy†in 2000, it would still have been an event, but it might also have been treated as the transitional album in a band's continuing career. By holding it back and tinkering with it for so long, Mr. Rose has pressured himself to make it epochal â€" especially if, on this timetable, the next Guns N' Roses studio album doesn't arrive until 2025. And fans were waiting for him to defy the world again, not to do another digital edit. Sometime during the years of work, theatricality and razzle-dazzle replaced heart."
I didn't find the first song that bad.. has slight Marilyn Manson vibe to it.
I prefer the new AC DC Black Ice album, again not as good as their older stuff but I like it.
Quote from: WannaDucBad on November 21, 2008, 09:27:11 AM
Illusion was a crock
+1
They sucked. I too picked them up on CD...after a shit ton of hype...and was sorely disappointed. Lies was a piece of shit as well.
Apetite is the ONLY good GNR album. Period.
Quote from: Mother on November 21, 2008, 09:53:01 AM
the illusion albums had a great mix of artists
from Alice Cooper and Shanon Hoon doing vocals
to
Mike Monroe and Aaron Arkeen penning lyrics and playing backup
I really liked both those albums
wore the tapes out twice
Coma was by far my favorite track
I have to agree, I bought the box set on CD. I liked just about every song on both albums and, like Jacob, Coma was my favorite...
Illusion had it's moments, and Lies was just filler. Axl's a talentless shit. The only thing he has going for him is the GnR name.
I can understand people's disgust over the hype
I never experience it
I tune that shit out
my first experience with Chinese Democracy was just a few weeks ago
i was listening to a song that
to me
was a refreshing change from the "hard edged emo crap" on the radio these days
and
it dawned on me that it was axl
so i like it so far
Quote from: Mother on November 21, 2008, 05:05:56 PM
was a refreshing change from the "hard edged emo crap" on the radio these days
+11tb
DIE EMO MUTHAFUKKAHS!!!!!!!!!!
FYI - the album kicks ass.
I heard a single over the weekend. Horrible IMO. :-\
after listening to some of it several times
it sounds muddy to me
Local paper reviewed it as 'Unlistenable' Too scattered and too out of touch due to the length of time it was done over. Reviewer though it could have been decent, if had at least been timely but the songs aren't strong enough to give them any sort of timeless appeal.
All that being said... I'm curious since I haven't heard any of it myself. Open mind, low expectations is where I sit...
Dont' forget to get your free Dr. Pepper
About halfway through right now and I think it's def got it's moments...
BTW Chinese Democracy is the worst track yet...
Quote from: Triple J on November 24, 2008, 12:58:49 PM
I heard a single over the weekend. Horrible IMO. :-\
Yup, heard a single on Alt Nation (Sirius 21) and I have to agree, it was pretty bad....
Quote from: yuu on November 24, 2008, 01:15:14 PM
Local paper reviewed it as 'Unlistenable' Too scattered and too out of touch due to the length of time it was done over. Reviewer though it could have been decent, if had at least been timely but the songs aren't strong enough to give them any sort of timeless appeal.
All that being said... I'm curious since I haven't heard any of it myself. Open mind, low expectations is where I sit...
Dont' forget to get your free Dr. Pepper
What? the song about vietnam was too late? :P
also, the dr pepper website was down when i tried to get mine. :(