Motogpfan is organizing a Duc dyno shootout in Daytona for bikeweek this Spring. He'll post up details soon. Sounds like a blast. I have no doubt that this will be quite a party. [beer] [moto]
Thanks Chris,
Here are the details. The CDC in conjunction with Daytona Ducati and BCM Motorsports are hosting the first annual Ducati only 3 part Dyno shootout bike contest/show. The premise is as follows, the bike entered will compete in 3 events. The Dyno, sound contest, and concourse. I will have a printable PDF you can fill out and send to me to register. I will post that up later when all the legal mambo jumbo is in order. The event will be held March 5th at 1:30 pm, registration fee is $15 and $20 on the day of the event. Registration on the day of the event will be cut off at noon. It will be held at Destination Daytona under the newly constructed amphitheater, so you can imagine the sweet Ducati sounds we will be making during the Dyno runs. If you are planning on making the pilgrimage to Daytona next March I urge you to take part if for nothing more then being able to to run your bike on the Dyno for $15. And who knows, with 3 chances to win you might walk away with a trophy, hand made by me with the help of Miles and Leslie from BCM.
it will be held inside the Coca Cola venue complex.
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I know it's a bit early but when you live in the middle of Bike Week headquarters you have to plan way in advance to make sure everything will run smooth. We have quite a bit of entrees already, as of right now there is no limit on participants, more the merrier I always say, but if it gets too big we might have to have a cut off. Time will tell.
I clipped the rules and categories from the CDC, these are prelim and may slightly change to make sure it's fair. Pretty straight forward.
So bring your bike and the smack talk, this shit is on.
OK, guys, Tony and I have come up with the preliminary rules. The location of this event will be at Destination Daytona behind the Ducati dealership under the amphitheater on Thursday March 5th starting at 1:30 PM.
Dyno rules.
1. all 2 cylinder 2 valve up to 750 cc. Includes 600, 620, 695, 696, 750,
2. all 2 cylinder 2 valve over 751 cc. Includes all 800, 900, 944, 1000DS, 1100 DS power plants
3. all 2 cylinder 4 valve up to 900 cc. Includes 748, 749, 848, 851, 888,
4. all 2 cylinder 4 valve up to 999cc Includes 916, 996, 998, 999 power plants
5. all 2 cylinder 4 valve over 1000 cc. Includes 1098, 1198
Power adders are not allowed in any class
Thats the line up as of right now for the Dyno contest. The bikes will have a combined score of the HP and torque.
I.E.- if a bike pulls 123 hp and 76 ft lbs it will receive a combined score of 99.5.
The sound contest will run simultaneously with the dyno run. We all know a Ducati should be under load for it to sound like a true Ducati. During each Dyno run a group of judges will have a score sheet numbered from 1-10. Each bike will be judged on who can produce the best authentic Ducati sound. I will pick judges that have an acute sense of hearing. Grin. I also want to let you know this contest will be held in the amphitheater, so it's going to sound frikin awesome.
This score will be added to the dyno score, so the contestant mentioned earlier so far has a score of 99.5 and he scored an 8 on the sound so he now has 107.5.
The last part will be the show. Also broken up into the following categories.
Best Monster 2V
Best Monster 4V
Best Touring which includes ST2, ST3, ST4, Multistrada
Best Sport Classic and Super Sport which will include, MH1, Sport Classics, and all Super Sports.
Best Hypermotard
Best Super Bike this includes all from the 888 all the way to the 1098.
Best Race Bike. This class has to be strictly a race bike. No headlights, tail lights, or any other street parts. Cannot be street legal. Race numbers not necessary. Bikes with taped up lights will not qualify.
Each participant will get a score on several sections on the aesthetics of their machine to come up with an overall score that will be added to the other 2 scores from the previous events to come up with the grand total. That person will be given the best of show trophy.
The highest score from the other 3 events will also receive a trophy in their individual class.
So there it is, these are the preliminary rules and can change to accommodate everyone. I'm trying to make this as fun and fair as possible. We want to put on a great event and hopefully keep it going for years to come. I encourage everyone in the club and outside to sign up. Even if you are in doubt you will win, remember you have 4 chances. one in your class and if you score lower in one event but higher in another you might end up with the highest overall score.
You can enter as many bikes as you like, each bike you enter is a separate entry fee
Stay with the current details here http://www.coastalducaticlub.org/forum/index.php?topic=4001.15
and if you absolutely positively don't want to enter, I'm also looking for judges, must have Ducati knowledge, good hearing, taste and must be sober till after the event. There is a shiny new CDC mechanic shirt with your name on it for helping out.
anyone interested or have questions shoot me a PM here or the CDC.
You had me right up until the part about staying sober until after the contest. [laugh]
Quote from: mac900 on December 01, 2008, 06:36:12 PM
You had me right up until the part about staying sober until after the contest. [laugh]
well if you're not a judge drink all you want.
to be honest this whole event is already driving me to drink excessively. but if I pull it off it'll be a great event, wait till you see the trophies, it'll be cooler then the Cycle Cat ones from Ducati Day Daytona.
A most excellent idea. If I make Daytona this year I sure won't miss it. I guess you'll post the numbers on the board after.
I won't have the bike there as Daytona Fla. is about the last place I would want to ride a motorcycle - except maybe for Myrtle Beach.
LA
Post all the winners on youtube.
and all that blow up. [evil]
Quote from: trouble on December 01, 2008, 07:38:03 PM
Post all the winners on youtube.
and all that blow up. [evil]
+ Eleventy billion !!!! [thumbsup]
entry registration form,
print, fill out and return to me
thanks and good luck
http://www.coastalducaticlub.org/CDC_entry_form.pdf (http://www.coastalducaticlub.org/CDC_entry_form.pdf)
How about getting a set of scales and weigh the bike with a power to weight ratio award.
Quote from: Capo on December 03, 2008, 07:06:29 AM
How about getting a set of scales and weigh the bike with a power to weight ratio award.
we already have 15 trophies, I can't afford anymore.
Hmmmm..... Sounds like fun. And I've never been to Florida! [evil]
Quote from: Monstermash on December 03, 2008, 11:10:37 AM
Hmmmm..... Sounds like fun. And I've never been to Florida! [evil]
thats crazy talk,
Quote from: motogpfan on December 03, 2008, 11:19:20 AM
thats crazy talk,
Would you expect anything else from me? [laugh]
I've had a few questions about the dyno run so here is an example if a Sedici ran against a 1098.
I combined the HP and torque divided by 2 to make it more competitive. For instance. The Sedici makes 200 HP at 85.3 lbs. The last 1098 I saw on a dyno made 186hp at 98.8 lbs.
so the overall score of the Sedici is 142.65
overall score for the 1098 is 142.40
.25 difference.
now the Sedici still has to beat the 1098 in sound and aesthetics in order to win.
I am separating the 748, 749, and 848. thanks again. keep it coming.
60 day reminder,
get me them applications.
we have some nice bikes lined up already.
Dyno contest, YES [thumbsup]
Sound contest = LAME.... [bang]
Quote from: Monstermash on December 03, 2008, 11:10:37 AM
Hmmmm..... Sounds like fun. And I've never been to Florida! [evil]
Whats up with you guys, i'm a Limey and i've been 11 times and it's a long bl---y way from jolly old England ???
Quote from: TAftonomos on January 03, 2009, 10:13:34 PM
Dyno contest, YES [thumbsup]
Sound contest = LAME.... [bang]
dude, this will be cool. it'll be in an amphitheater plus it won't be like the DDD, the bikes will be under load. it'll sound like you're at a race track.
This sounds like a great event [thumbsup]
mitt
OK so these are the entries we have so far.
Bills 996 Corse
Carlos M800
Stans M800 / 600SS race bike
Erics 916
Franciscos 1098 / 996
Vinnie M750
Wild Bills 1098
Azraels 996
JC 998 / M900
Phils Multistrada
Steaders 888
thats it so far, sounds like to me you are going to have alot of day-of entries.
Quote from: Latinbalar on January 15, 2009, 11:09:34 AM
thats it so far, sounds like to me you are going to have alot of day-of entries.
we have 20 as of right now, thats pretty typical.
Need to make a slight change.
Due to an overwhelming amount of entries this week we have to move the event a block away from the original location. We ran out of room under the amphitheater. We will now have our own Ducati Island sorta say. The event will be held across the street from JP Cycles. About 100 feet from the original location.
Daytona Ducati is also hosting a VIP cocktail party after the event. Besides the Ducati execs and judges all participants in the show will get a pass. You can bring one guest. Passes will be given out with your confirmed bike contest number and entry form.
Directions did not change. Continue toward Destination Daytona and when you see JP Cycles on your right our event will be directly across the street. Look for the Ducati flags on your left. I tried to map out an areal view to make it easier. We're about 6 weeks away, please continue sending your entry forms, we are filling up pretty fast but now that we have more room we can double our capacity.
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Not to hijack the thread, but got my 7,600+ mile S4RS back from it's service and dyno run at AMS today. 130RWHP, 76 ft lbs. Strong but I am sure it would not win at bike week.
Quote from: Centerline on January 20, 2009, 06:44:01 PM
Not to hijack the thread, but got my 7,600+ mile S4RS back from it's service and dyno run at AMS today. 130RWHP, 76 ft lbs. Strong but I am sure it would not win at bike week.
[thumbsup] sounds nice and healthy!
Quote from: Centerline on January 20, 2009, 06:44:01 PM
Not to hijack the thread, but got my 7,600+ mile S4RS back from it's service and dyno run at AMS today. 130RWHP, 76 ft lbs. Strong but I am sure it would not win at bike week.
your dyno score would be 103, thats strong.
Nick, great job with organizing this, for a man who appears intoxicated nearly every time I see him, you sure do get alot done!
Anyways, I've got school that week, but I will try to get me. Amy and the bike down there.
Quote from: BellissiMoto on January 21, 2009, 03:34:43 PM
Nick, great job with organizing this, for a man who appears intoxicated nearly every time I see him, you sure do get alot done!
Anyways, I've got school that week, but I will try to get me. Amy and the bike down there.
don't bring your bike, I can't offer you a free trip to Italy.
Quote from: motogpfan on January 22, 2009, 07:49:49 AM
don't bring your bike, I can't offer you a free trip to Italy.
Prizes aren't a big part of my motivation in life, but being with my bike is and I would love to see what it could do on the Dyno.
Quote from: BellissiMoto on January 22, 2009, 08:41:31 AM
Prizes aren't a big part of my motivation in life, but being with my bike is and I would love to see what it could do on the Dyno.
awesome, you got a sweet looking bike, maybe Azrael will finally have some competition.
Mine's not ready. Would have been fun to run if I could come down. The way we left it my S4R would have done 117.5 I have an idea of where she'll end up but I'll wait and see.
I'd just be happy with some warm weather. [thumbsup]
Warm Weather now Nick that sounds like an invitation [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
[beer]
[thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
4 more weeks guys, polish up them bikes and throw em on the trailer and come on down. Hot chicks will be walking around giving out $100 bills.
no not really, but there will be hot chicks walking around.
Ducati Dyno Shootout reminder, 2 more weeks till the show. March 5th, show starts at 1:30. Get there early, Destination Daytona will be packed by 11am. We will have a hospitality tent for show participants. If you need me to bring your race bike please let me know, I still have room for 4 more bikes.
I extended the mail in applications till March 3rd. Please mail early enough for it to get here. If not you can register the day of the event till noon, but it will be $20 vs $15..
down loadable PDF application, http://www.coastalducaticlub.org/CDC_entry_form.pdf
show thread, good luck and see you there.
http://www.coastalducaticlub.org/forum/index.php?topic=4001.60 (http://www.coastalducaticlub.org/forum/index.php?topic=4001.60)
Are stretched Busa's allowed?
Wish I was around for this one :( sounds like loads of fun. I hope to see lots of pics and vids.
ONE MORE WEEK
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damn, those are cool.
mitt
If I was in the SouthEast -- I'd be there.
Glad to see the event is publicized, well coordinated and has credibility going for it in terms of awards and location. Lots of work involved -- more so than most people realize. Hopefully it is a great success!
Good job. Anyone and everyone who goes -- remember to post pictures (and sound clips if applicable!)
Quote from: mitt on March 02, 2009, 09:10:48 AM
damn, those are cool.
mitt
thanks, mounting the pressure plate was pretty easy, but the piston was a pregnant dog. I had to drill the bottom, tap it and through bolt it.
Quote from: MotoCreations on March 02, 2009, 09:31:44 AM
If I was in the SouthEast -- I'd be there.
Glad to see the event is publicized, well coordinated and has credibility going for it in terms of awards and location. Lots of work involved -- more so than most people realize. Hopefully it is a great success!
Good job. Anyone and everyone who goes -- remember to post pictures (and sound clips if applicable!)
thanks Mark, hopefully you can make it next year
well this was incredible event. We had 33 entry's, a 170 hp 1098, a 130 hp Hypermotard Bayliss, and a 203 hp 1098R and a Desmosedici. We have tons of pics, videos of the 203 HP 1098R and the Desmosedici.
We had over a 1000 spectators come and go. Our Ducati Island was PACKED. Next year we'll have to find a bigger spot. From what I heard it went pretty well, ran a little late. 2 of our judges were running a little late. Other then that it went right on schedule. Some were pregnant doging they should have gotten the trophy but hey, thats how it goes. I've been disappointed in the past not winning after I put a ton of work into a project.
I'm also looking for input on what we can change next year to make it even better. Hope everyone had a good time. You now have a year to prepare for the next one.
Thanks for all my volunteers, participants, judges, the guys that ran the Dyno truck, and Shelly at Destination Daytona for letting us have a large enough space so we can hold our event. I'm posting lots of links with the pics and videos, go through them and enjoy. See you next year.
link to thread
http://www.coastalducaticlub.org/forum/index.php?topic=7016.0 (http://www.coastalducaticlub.org/forum/index.php?topic=7016.0)
link to pics
http://gallery.me.com/steada/100472 (http://gallery.me.com/steada/100472)
203hp 1098R video.
Most Powerful Ducati (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tIykB_vqrA&eurl=http://www.coastalducaticlub.org/forum/index.php?topic=7016.15&feature=player_embedded#lq-lq2-hq)
Desmosedici at our dyno show video.
Desmosedici on dyno3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtm95pIx7js&eurl=http://www.coastalducaticlub.org/forum/index.php?topic=7016.15&feature=player_embedded#lq-lq2-hq)
that's one serious 1098r....and one unhappy sedici.
looks like a great event, Nick.
Quote from: Statler on March 09, 2009, 01:29:47 PM
that's one serious 1098r....and one unhappy sedici.
looks like a great event, Nick.
I saw the other videos of the sedici on the CDC and he should have let someone else do the dyno drag. :'(
Quote from: Statler on March 09, 2009, 01:29:47 PM
that's one serious 1098r....and one unhappy sedici.
looks like a great event, Nick.
thanks, it went pretty good with only minor hiccups, it'll be better next year.
Quote from: MonsterMan1036 on March 09, 2009, 01:39:01 PM
I saw the other videos of the sedici on the CDC and he should have let someone else do the dyno drag. :'(
you aint kidding. I would have rung it's neck. But only on a dyno.
I believe that there was another 1098 that made more hp than the sedici. In this case, I'm 99.9% sure it was the rider and not the bike.
this is the guy that owns the sedici
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=8449 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=8449)
Quote from: motogpfan on March 09, 2009, 08:08:34 PM
this is the guy that owns the sedici
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=8449 (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=8449)
That video of the sedici made baby Jesus cry :'(
mitt
More videos posted:
http://www.coastalducaticlub.org/forum/index.php?topic=7016.msg96227#msg96227 (http://www.coastalducaticlub.org/forum/index.php?topic=7016.msg96227#msg96227)
DOC pics
http://photos.ducati.net/gallery/7563994_W7Qu6/3 (http://photos.ducati.net/gallery/7563994_W7Qu6/3)
Hi Nick and all the gang,
thanks for the hospitality, the photo took us by suprise :o
Thursday was awesome and friday was just as good [clap] [clap]
I'll catch up with you soon.
[coffee] it's tea and not coffee (you know i'm a limey)
Quote from: mitt on March 10, 2009, 06:07:14 AM
That video of the sedici made baby Jesus cry :'(
mitt
Seriously, was that the first time that guy has sat on a bike. Thank god that thing was straped to a dyno otherwise there would be a pile of parts formally known as Sedici sitting in someone's garage.
I believe his issue on the dyno is exactly the reason it's not a pile of parts. The traction control was kicking in, cutting off power in first and second gear. He should have shut it off completely.
Quote from: duccarlos on March 12, 2009, 12:19:24 PM
I believe his issue on the dyno is exactly the reason it's not a pile of parts. The traction control was kicking in, cutting off power in first and second gear. He should have shut it off completely.
Since when did the desmo come with TC?
I thought it always did...
Quote from: Statler on March 09, 2009, 01:29:47 PM
that's one serious 1098r....and one unhappy sedici.
looks like a great event, Nick.
Wow, that would be totally cool if my " R " would pull 203 RWHP !
Don't know if that 1 was " built" or " stock " in race trim ? Dolph :)
Obviously built a bit. The R spec does not even have that HP at the crank stock.
Quote from: alfisti on March 12, 2009, 04:10:55 PM
I thought it always did...
Quote from: motogpfan on March 12, 2009, 05:40:55 PM
yup
He must have the only one with it then (not trying to argue). Take a look here: http://www.ducatispot.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12247 (http://www.ducatispot.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12247)
and a quote from that thread-
as per your request, I confirm you that the Desmosedici RR does not
come with the traction control system as standard equipment.
With this regard, according to the Project Engineer, its
technological advancements, coming directly from Ducati's
experience in MotoGP, already make the Desmosedici RR model a
powerful machine but at the same they increase the manoevrability
and riding precision.
We hope this information is of assistance and remain at your
complete disposal.
Kind regards,
Céline
Customer Service
Ducati Motor Holding Spa
Borgo Panigale - Italy
www.ducati.com (//http://)
I spoke to the guy with the 200hp bike and he claims that the only internal engine mod was 13:1 pistons, everything else was computer mods. I also had several people tell me that this particular dyno read about 5-7% higher than previous experiences with dynoing their bikes. Still pretty impressive.
The 139HP air cooled bike REALLY cought my attention but the guy claims that all the work was done by a shop and all he did was pay the bill. Didn't seem to know much else (hmm).
I had originally thought I might have the prototype of the 100+ ft/lbs motor that we are developing but (as usual) we are running a "bit" behind. Hopefully next year I'll get it set up before someone beats me to the benchmark.
Quote from: MonsterMan1036 on March 12, 2009, 06:55:40 PM
He must have the only one with it then (not trying to argue). Take a look here: http://www.ducatispot.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12247 (http://www.ducatispot.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12247)
and a quote from that thread-
as per your request, I confirm you that the Desmosedici RR does not
come with the traction control system as standard equipment.
With this regard, according to the Project Engineer, its
technological advancements, coming directly from Ducati's
experience in MotoGP, already make the Desmosedici RR model a
powerful machine but at the same they increase the manoevrability
and riding precision.
We hope this information is of assistance and remain at your
complete disposal.
Kind regards,
Céline
Customer Service
Ducati Motor Holding Spa
Borgo Panigale - Italy
www.ducati.com (//http://) (//http://) (//http://)
well then he has no excuse,
Quote from: Norm on March 12, 2009, 11:14:27 PM
me that this particular dyno read about 5-7% higher than previous experiences with dynoing their bikes. Still pretty impressive.
+1 - even if it was 10% off, it is still crazy numbers from a twin.