Ducati Monster Forum

Was having lunch today with a fellow Dallas/Ft.Worth DMFer and the subject was brought up regarding how many on this board got erked at the new owner's format of the old board and headed over here? Just curious and thought it might be interesting to ask.

The D/FW group is about 50% from the old board and 50% new folks who never even knew of the old board. The group has grown in leaps and bounds this last year. The D/FW club on the old board is a ghost town. Check it out and notice the dates on the threads and posts. I have gone back once or twice and found new folks and steered them this way.

Anyway, post up if you came from the old board and if you are still/if ever active on it. Just wondering.

Thanks,

fastwin

I think I was on TOB, but I can't remember. ;D

There is no TOB.  These are not the droids you are looking for. 

If my memory serves me right (seldom does) the member count was explosive here up to ABOUT half of what it is today. I  guess that was the migration period, at least for the most active members?

So, the answer would/could be 1,500 - 2,000 migrated members - my guess :P

If all of them follow your invitation to post here, I will sincerely regret posting in this thread - a lot of "replies" to follow [bang] [laugh]

I first signed up on the other board (it ranks higher on Google) but I quickly realized that everybody was here.
I never understood what happened though. Anybody care to explain the history?

Giordy

a video (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=836.msg11230#msg11230) is worth 1000 words... ;D

TOB is dead to me. ;D

 ;D

Im from the old board. Was devastated when things went bad, then found everybody over here.  [thumbsup]

Before my time, but didn't the 'old' board get bought up by some class A jerks, and everyone fled?

I started on TOB when I first got the Duc. Then all the folks i liked reading from started jumping ship, i got the lowdown, and now I'm the most popular guy here!

What is this "other board" you speak of? ;D

LA

Ship jumper here.

I jumped a shark

i did

Yes; VS bought it...

"fastwin" you should just set up a voting poll...this thread would get too long!  ;D

Ok, since you asked, here's an abbreviated version of the history with links if you want to delve into it.  As much as I don't like to link to TOB, there's no other way to explain it as well.

The DML was bought by a company called Vertical Scope, a for-profit advertising/media company that owns motorcycle.com and has been buying up motorcycle forums to increase their advertising market.  The saga of VS and the DML can be found here (http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/general-monster-forum/177087-tell-me-ducatimonster-org-hasn-t-sold-out.html) and here (http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/general-monster-forum/177143-important-please-read.html)

DML moderators and members built the DMF as an insurance policy in case VS screwed up the DML.  It sat unused and hidden for many months.  Then the day came.  The mods and admin resigned en masse.  Below--listed by name--are just some of the resignations threads that were easy to find. There are a bunch more.  Some chose to be mods/admin here.  Others are just members. 

Ducpainter (http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/general-monster-forum/185498-add-me-list.html)
Spidey (http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/general-monster-forum/185485-my-resignation-dml-mod.html)  (yes, I refer to myself in the third person.  Bite me.   ;D)
Michael Moore (http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/general-monster-forum/185501-time-move.html)
Drunkenmonkey (http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/general-monster-forum/185511-stick-fork-me-i-m-done.html)
Speeddog (http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/general-monster-forum/185542-fought-good-fight-can-t-do-any-more.html)
howie (http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/general-monster-forum/185561-one-more-mod-gone-how-many-left.html)
Duck Stew (http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/general-monster-forum/185513-i-m-alumnus-already-but-i-m-out-too.html)
CRASH! (http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/accessories-mods/185578-i-resign-mod-board-forum.html)
Randimus Maximus (http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/general-monster-forum/185505-shortest-tenured-dml-mod-ever.html)

After everyone resigned, the DMF went live and a few thousand people moved here to set up shop.   [thumbsup]   [moto]  All was well in the world. 

P.S.  Kinda weird to read through those old posts.  But someone's gotta explain how this all came about. 

TOB?
whats that.....

The stats link from the bottom of the forum homepage

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?action=stats (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?action=stats)

seems to agree with you, maybe a little more than 2000 - I'd guess we're getting ~200 new members per month, and that we got ~2300 migrating members over the first 3 or 4 months (probably more, I'd guess we weren't doing as well on google back in May - August, so even more of those signups are likely to be migrants from TOB)

big

^^ estimates sound about right, from all the welcomes I've been writing. 8)

we're all here now.

 [thumbsup]

 [beer]

Thanks for the explanation Spidey.

Giordy

I was on the old board for a while (mainly as a lurker), I tried to stay around after VS took over, I was kinda hoping that things would settle down but once the new VS Admin guys started banning people for petty reason's.
Time to [moto] on over here and start again.


Our friends at VS have Passionate fingers, they seem to make the beast with two backs everything they touch  [evil]

I don't like to talk about it.

I broke the news of the sale to VS. predicted the boards eventual abortion. was called "chicken little," and then was proven right.

dig it

Was on TOB for about a year.
Made lots of new mates there and most of us jumped ship when The Shit Hit it.....

We're all happy little vegimites since being here.

I joined the OB when I ordered my Monster...somtime in '05' ?? Might have been '04' as I had originally ordered a S2R but when there were no more coming to the US that year, I ordered an S2R 1000...Anyway.

I never go back to the OB, I went back a few times early on but haven't in ages...Why bother?

I think there is at least a little rebel in every MC rider...no matter the brand, size, etc. This Board was started via rebellion...I like that and can relate and there were and are good reasons for it.

I found my bike in the classifieds on tob.

-The DML was literally a "list" or email list in the beginning. A community of Ducati owners that helped out with tech advice, and rode together. Purchased by Jeff H (monsterparts) and Martin from motowheels. The email list is still active but low on traffic.
-DML goes webboard. Slow at first but then gains popularity and grows monthly.
-Hazy history on how/where Martin parted ways with part ownership.
-DML takes membership donations to "run site and buy needed equipment" for the DML "community".
-Jeff H sells "community" to VS.
-VS sucks, DMF is born.

The DML is a story of good intentions turned to greed.

I can be accused of lurking round the TOB, not confident enough to join in and gradually noted that the familier
names were disappearing but luckly saw a link to this forum and boy am i glad i found you. [thumbsup]
All i can say is a BIG THANKS to all you guys who make it all work  [clap] [clap]
Geoff  [coffee]

Jesus,

That video is funny as s#@t!!! I think someone posted a version of that with Hitler's staff buying him a Honda VFR instead of a BMW. That one was funny as s#@t too!!!

Thanks for the posts folks. Again, just curious if the outside world did the same as the D/FW group. It was like "will the last person on this board please turn out the lights"!! [laugh] Curios how many other forums he bought up did the same thing. The other two bike forums I belong to are too far below his "gotta buy it" radar.

fastwin

hey, I don't think I ever made a firey resignation post.

just a local mod anyway, so nobody really would care about me  ;D


someguy's NMC manifesto was one of the greatest posts evar! lol

Once upon a time there was this place where all God's children with Ducatis laughed and played and shared their stories and their knowledge amongst  each other .

Then one day a wicked Giant came masquerading as the great Savior which all the Ducati children where very sceptical of .

The Giant said that he was there for the good of the Ducati children and he would make their lives better in so many ways and he would not change the beautiful world in which the children laughed and played amongst themselves.

The children grew more and more suspicious of this Giant and his promises and so the they expressed their fears of him in a 28 page or longer thread .Then one day it happened.

The Giant changed the happy world of the Ducati children and they felt so betrayed that they became disconsolate and they abandoned their changed world and dispersed into the wild .

Many days and nights went by and the children grew very melancholy.

Then as if a miracle had taken place , like the sunshine after a terrible rainstorm word spread of a new world where the Ducati children were once again being reunited with there former brothers and sisters.

One by one they began to appear and before long many of the lost children were together once again to laugh and play like never before.

And so we come to find ourselves happy participants of what is known as the DMF.  A very special world made possible by a few extraordinary individuals.     Dolph

That was the most beautiful thing I ever read Dolph.

I was a member of TOB since 04 and came here as soon as I realized all the good people were leaving. Reading the old post made me a bit sad though. I can't help thinking that some people got lost in the shuffle. Also, even if most of the members came here, I do miss having more photos posted. It was so easy to post photos before and we don't get nearly as many visuals as we did before. At the end of the day, I want to see as many photos as possible of the mods, bike, and fellow members.

Those links made me sad too.

It was the first time I had been back since...then.

We decided to let the photo hosting sites do what they do.

We don't need to duplicate their efforts.

It's simply a matter of each member having a hosting account (usually free) and posting whatever they wish.

 ;D

I joined TOB about 4 years ago when I bought my first motorcycle. Spent many a long nights posting while stuck at work and making friends. Helped organize local club events and used contacts from TOB wherever I went. Even became a Local Mod followed by a General Mod.

I started to read some of TOB resignation letters and the threads about the demise. But, couldn't do it. I just walked away. No fond farewells, no remorse. Just packed up and walked away. The lights'll eventually turn themselves out or burn out back there. To be honest, hadn't thought about the place for a long time. And when I do, it hurts a little bit. It really was the first online community I felt I belonged to. A place I knew I could go at all hours for some smoke and joke time with friends.

I do feel about the same about this place. It took a little while to grow on me. Even though most of the friends moved over here as well. But, it's like giving up your old security blanket. No blanket will ever feel as good.

But, I'm glad to be here.

  Ah gee tanks, porscha guy, Dolph

thats 'cause you been AWOL in the far east for so long ;)

It seemed to happen about the same time too... That could have something to do with it.

DML refugee here.  My native land was invaded by Canadians, marking the first time in the history of Canada that they have invaded anything.  And then everybody left.  Imperialism: you're doing it wrong.

Now that it is a more distant bittersweet memory, we might take an objective look now at how long it will take for TOB to die.  I give it another year before it is either rolled into another VS site or shut down.  Membership does not equal clickthroughs.

I spent some time on the old board while I was bike shopping, then posted a bit after I got my Monster. Was fascinated to watch the train wreck developing over there.

Then one day the site went down and when it came back I couldn't get my password accepted. Did that happen to others? Given the way the site was going, I wasn't in a rush to re-register, and never have. Came here instead.

From a few threads on TOB where people complained they could no longer edit content they had previously posted, I am guessing the admins there acted to prevent angry inmates from deleting or altering content they had posted prior to the sale.

If that's so, and my experience of being unable to use my former password was widespread, then in tyrying to protect what they thought they'd bought, VS has shot itself in the stomach.

They've ended up hosting a handy but ageing database of Monster-related info while attracting little new content.

If/when TOB goes belly-up, I wonder will VS hand back that content to some of the people who produced it - say, by offering it gratis to the admins here if they wanted to host it - or whether they'll simply burn it and move on.

I'm also a DML 'fugee. I joined TOB in the summer of 2004. Spent many hours on that site and made friendlies with quite a few members there. Back then the closest Ducati dealer to me was +10 hours away so the old board was an invaluable tech resource as well as a fun place to hang out with like-minded people.

I left the board after coming home from a week holiday and finding the place had changed and most of the nice people I knew had left. 


hehe... we're not all evil. Or stupid. But I can see why some of ya would think so.
 ;)

Oh yes I came from there too. What I remember of the change over was panic in the streets. Looting and rioting, people running amuck setting cop cars on fire. I was insane!
 FTR I think I was the one who called CAptncrunc chinken little. It was a lack of experience in dealing with the vicious nature of the Canadians.... I told myself it's just a bunny rabbit.

And they all motored happily ever after.


(sob) Dat was byootyfull



I found TOB when I decided to sttart riding again. The info I found on there helped me decide on my Monster. I watched the riots, the mass exodus, and came over here. I still visit TOB every so often, so that I can help any wayward Ducatisti find the promised land.

They still don't permit linking to this board, they seem to have new members, someone shoud go over and round them up and bring them back here.

Found out about this board by word of mouth about 2 wks after I joined TOB and haven't been back since. I've actually met 1 person who prefers TOB  [puke]

Started on TOB in '03/04.  Then when I moved I stopped visiting and lost track of it.  Found it again right about the same time as the great mutiny .

I started out on the other board,... then moved here.

It's been about 6 months now, I think.... the other board has had 5000 new posts in the time that 270 000 new posts have been created here.

Oh, and the good news is, the DMF now tops out on google.  [thumbsup]

I am from the board that we do not speak of... NEVER go there anymore. (I always have issues signing in) It was the subtitled Hitler movie that got me here.

I migrated.  I admit I still look at both classifieds as sometimes there are things that are there and not here and vise versa and if I'm ever selling anything I'd post both places and every other ducati board I know but otherwise i'm pretty much here.  That was a weird couple of days.  I knew nothing of the politics involved but picked it all  up from all of the posts.  No less, all of the ads and the lack of support for pictures aside from the weird story and I just come to this board for the most part. 

I cringe at the technical advice being given out there. One 'expert' guy is recommending Titanium pistons, can't provide a source tho  ;D

I haven't been able to read anything over there for a while, since I got banned.  But I figured out that I just have to delete the cookies for ducatimonster.org and they can no longer prevent me from going over there for a peek.  That first thread was started by me.  I guess being banned doesn't automatically delete thousands of posts you've made over the years.  I find it interesting that I'm listed as a "Premium Member", five stars, 3,931 posts and "banned".  What kind of message does that send to people checking out the site?

I guess my last dozen posts there were about leaving the site, so they "helped" me by canceling my membership.

As to the original question, I'm pretty sure that all of the important people migrated the first week.  ;)

That original Micapeak email list still exists and has regular, but light, traffic on it.  You can access it here: http://micapeak.com/mailman/listinfo/ducatimonster

Jeff H has been heard from over there recently.

VS espionage / research thread.
IMO.

Yes I did, and much happier for doing it ;D

It does seem odd that the OP is no longer a member here.

That was Himmler  ;D

I migrated.  I just noticed one day that my user name didn't work there any more.  I needed a new monster home and here I am.

I used to be on that list.  I think it was 2000.  It kept growing until I'd have to check my inbox a couple of times a day to keep it from overflowing. 
I'm glad to be here, sharing my passion with other crazes. 

I had just started on the old board when the screen started flickering and every word I crossed over tried to sell me lawn mower tires.  I can't remember who directed me here, but THANK YOU!

I migrated, it was fun.

I've been here for several months (pretty much since the demise of TOB).  I hate adds in the text of posts-you're reading along, when all the sudden you move your mouse a tiny bit and all the text you're reading is covered up by some lame, generic ad.

Thanks for having this great board.  I sold my bike a few months ago, but I'm keeping my eye out for what I want to get come spring.  I also love the laughs I get daily from this board.  The people aren't too bad either....

Joined the TOB 3 years ago when I was looking for a bike.  Found my first Monster there and many parts, modding ideas and help when things didn't work.  Switched over to this board with everyone else.

I had been a member of the old board for a long time...

I made the move over the night that everyone resigned. no parting speach...I just left.

Haven't been back since they changed the site.

From TOB and for some reason i'm banned from TOB.  Not that I have a reason to ever go back......

I got banned for posting El Matador's You Tube video in every single thread on the forum. ;D

For those of you who have not yet been banned from the old board, what's keeping you from doing it?

Get busy posting links to this site and you too can join the "village of the banned".  [evil]

My computer had been broken for almost a year and I could check in very sporadically. When I finally stopped being cheap and got a new machine in Sept. one of the first things I wanted to do was spend some time catching up with the board. Imagine my horror when I logged on to a deserted site! And it looked a little funny too...   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onZHpGYFPls&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onZHpGYFPls&feature=related)

Thank god I checked back to see if it was a fluke. Someone was nice enough to PM me after I posted over there looking for people. Here now and happier than ever. Shit we never had politics or  [bacon].   [thumbsup] [clap]

It was amazing how much advertising had taken over the site. I felt confused and left along time ago.

I was banned from TOB for saying it looked like a ghost town and asking where the heck everybody went.  Somebody pointed me in this direction and haven't been back since.  Screw 'em.  Damn Canadians. (where's the sniper smiley?)

I moved over, been missing for awhile to wait for it to get back up to speed.  It's on it's way. 

This is a silly thread.  Of course we all migrated from TOB except for the newest of Monster addicts.

   Hey jbrizz, glad you decided to stay.    Dolph     :)

I was on the old board, before the changes.  I guess I came after things were announced.  So I had no clue what was going on.  People were complaining a lot but the site worked well.... Then I picked up the bread crumb trail and ended up over here.   For a little while I went to both sites, mainly because I knew that board, but as more people left the quality of the help (the main reason I'm here)  tanked over there, and was better, or at least friendlier here then it ever was over there.    I went back for something about a month or two ago and finally saw all the changes they made.   No wonder everyone jumped ship.  I'm just glad I made it over here.  I can't imagine the frustration of owning one of these bikes, with out people to ask for advice.

Member of the TOB since late 2003.  Migrated to the DMF within a week of the coup.

No, I'm still here. Deleted my account and reinstated it. Don't ask. Long boring story.

 [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [thumbsup]

I've got all the time in the world. ;D

Care to share the story?

Looks like he deleted his account again  [roll]

Ah, I didn't delete my account again. I reactivated otherwise I couldn't have made the previous posts and I was PMing folks yesterday. But you are right, it was deleted when I tried to post this today. I had to go back and reactiviate once again. How did it delete itself? I didn't do it.

Cool  [thumbsup] Don't want to lose ya  ;D

Went over on a mission and brought back two newbies.

I switched from TOB as well, not that I'm active I don't have a duc anymore.

 [thumbsup] [thumbsup]

I lurk on these boards from time to time .. trying to find info about monsters....  so a while back.. I did not know about this forum and I was reading the old one .. I went through a few pages of posts . and did not find any good info .. or I remember thinking about how shitty the posting was .. . and then I did more research and found this .. and realized what had happened ..

pretty cool forum ya got here [beer]


 havin said that I am a research junky .. so if find myself searching both sites for archived info

I was on the old board for 4 years, after the switch it took a while but I found yinz

I was on the other board for about 3 years.....now? she's dead to me.

Just  realized I never posted in the "new members" section, but I was on the other board since I bought my Monster a few years back. I was inactive for a bit due to my time being spent on Supermoto Junkie (raced a 450 KTM for a couple of seasons) and when my interest was rekindled in my Duc., I logged on to find a bunch of P.O.'d members gone, and an ass load of flashing generic ads in every other post. Dug around a bit and found where everyone went. Glad I'm here. [moto]

I started off at TOB as well, even bought my bike from the Classifieds over there.

Me too.  I started at TOB, moved over here early on.  Visit there occaisionally

me,

I only post over there if I'm selling something now. 

Should of made this a poll.

I was one of the original list members before the board, then joined TOB, I was invited to join this board on day one as well. I posted on TOB for a week or so after joining this one. I stopped posting on TOB when a MOD publicly called me a liar. F#$K TOB!

I signed up for both at same time, but immediately gravitated over here.  I got 0 help, support, humor from TOB. 

I was a very early mover from a bmw splinter group years ago to start bimmerforums out of roadfly and kind of appreciated the whole story here.

100+ posts later i am a DMFer for life (if you will have me?).

Wow, I had forgotten about this thread. [bang] I started it last December, glad someone found it again... cool. [thumbsup]

I came from the old board almost right away. I don't post much but I read stuff here and there. Check race stuff and other things.

I'm here. Was there. Always air-cooled.

Was there - now here. Not going back.

I like posting. I posted in TOB. I shall post here too.  ;D
(http://dennisq.fileave.com/smiley-wave2_a.gif)

I was there since 2003 or 4 i think. Came here as soon as the big changeover happened. I'm all inspired now, gonna go back and post me some links!

*EDIT*
Links posted, let's see if I'm banned in the morning.

I was on TOB for a bit, saw this board and was out like the cat!  This board is much more sleek and I'm happy to be here instead now!

I started on the DML April 2008, did my research, and learned a lot, not going bash....found a stand up guy in SoCal.  spoke to him over the phone, and sent him a 10% cashier check, to a guy I never met, and never saw the bike.  Flew out to Socal and paid for the Monster and he helped my get acquainted with the Monster, and rode up the great PCH.  great experience and great time.

fast forward to DMF, met some great peeps here too, and helped my moved to Boston so much fun.. [moto] [thumbsup]

Thanks Flounders..got beers coming your way!

Started at the TOB a few years back, and enjoyed it until the change of ownership. I was away when the change happened and was pretty shocked when I got back and saw it. It took me some digging before I realized everyone had come over here. Been here ever since. I go back to TOB and look at classifieds occasionally.

Joined TOB when I was still in Afghanistan last year, found out about the DMF from a dude with a red Monster with a nifty passenger backrest/luggage rack thing at the Twin Peaks bike night in Round Rock TX while I was on end of tour R&R in March this year. Been here ever since

Enjoyed meeting duc fans and getting advice on TOB for over two years.
Had to follow my NMMR buds though and no regrets [thumbsup]

[thumbsup] Yeah the NMMR is a kick in the seat. If the main mods ever make their way over there they will be aghast at the rampant threadjacking. Talk about a group with ADD. lol. Karl we need to get together soon. Maybe if I ever get around to getting my truck stuff.

What was this thread about again? 


Oh yeah, I was on TOB and moved also with the whole NMMR group.  8)

WOW... Thanks.   Talk about talkin' before your brain kicks in.  [thumbsup]

WTF

"Have you seen my baseball?"


Oh yeah, back on topic.   Me: No

Man...What a thread. I wish I ready all that(and subsiquent links) before I bothered to sign up at TOB a week ago. Well...I'm here now. [thumbsup]

I joined the "List" in June 2006 as "Inglenook".  I think it was Spidey that sent me the link to here. Thanks man! So I came here with a Name change but the same Avatar. 

I was just over there fishing for some lost souls. I hope they find the way.

Started there (briefly), found my way here following a few others... a much better forum all around [thumbsup].

the hitler vid still cracks me up

that deserves a link.... ;D

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=20564.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=20564.0)

still the best all time youtube vid. [thumbsup] [laugh]

I think the 'JK Wedding Entrance' vid may have more views.

And yes, I may 'ban myself' for this post.

Werd.  There was only a short window between resigning as a mod and getting banned, which I used to send as many mass PMs as I could.  ;D  Somehow Michael Moore and mebbe Speeddog (?) and mitt (?) ended up not getting banned.  I think the rest of the crew either got the boot from the Canadians or just deleted their accounts.

Best video.   [thumbsup]

I saw the movie that video was made from a while back.
The same video about Hitlers missing VFR was funny too.

The movie wasn't funny.

I don't think I even made it out. Got banned from NMC for hanging with the wrong people, you know who you are. Left before the switch when BP's board was deleted. Saw the writing on the wall. Only drop by here to give random people a hard time and give props to others. I think I would have been banned even from here if I hung out for too long.

You bunch 'O ThreadJacking Hooligans  8)

   

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I'm baaaaaaaaaaaack.  I started on the original DML list (before the board).   Those were the days.

Welcome baaaaaaaack  [thumbsup] Why were you gone?

How was life on the original list?

Thanks for the welcome!

In 2006, health issues required a new hobby; so, I sold the bikes (851, 900SS/FE, and MS4).  Well, it looks like the health issues have settled down and its time to re-Duck.  If things go well, I'll pickup an M750 for Mrs TripleDuck next week and I'll figure out what I want soon.

Life on the original list was a little more intimate - each post was in e-mail form and there were no more than 50 posts a day as I recall.  So, you read every post.  There were not as many Ducatista in those days and mutual support (thus respect) was required.  We drove hundreds of miles for a burger and beer with fellow DMLers and met at the SBK races whenever possible.  Ducatis were not main stream and the average age of the riders was somewhere around 40 or so.

You guys want to take this to pm or back to NMMR...

The entire board doesn't need to see you all fondling each other. [roll]

giddie up

Where ya' been Cowboy?  Looks like your pony's a little slow...  ;D