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Title: muscle relaxation???
Post by: tcspeedfreak on January 10, 2009, 07:14:27 PM
any advice on getting a knot the size of god out of my shoulder? its huge and painful
Title: Re: muscle relaxation???
Post by: somegirl on January 10, 2009, 07:19:48 PM
massage, stretching, heat
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Post by: tcspeedfreak on January 10, 2009, 07:24:11 PM
Quote from: somegirl on January 10, 2009, 07:19:48 PM
massage, stretching, heat

is that all 'cause that doesnt seem to be working, ive been working on it all day doing what you just said and not getting anywhere [bang]
Title: Re: muscle relaxation???
Post by: He Man on January 10, 2009, 08:00:24 PM
deep tisue massage, or acupuncture.

or you can start using chemical rubs to tenderize it and then massage it.
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Post by: ducatiz on January 10, 2009, 08:38:35 PM
if you have a doctor friend, he/she can inject a small amount of lidocaine IM 1% directly into the muscle. 

muscle relaxers work wonders as well.. Flexeril is good as is Ativan (both prescription).  Both will make you loopy tho.

Best non-medicinal is to get deep tissue massage and heat.  Find a good massage therapist and get them to alternate.  Hot water bottle is best.  Start with the heat for 10 min, then massage for 10, then heat, etc..

But the flexeril + lido IM will knock it right out.

FYI, read the last few lines for details

http://www.bayareapainmedical.com/wmusspspn.html (http://www.bayareapainmedical.com/wmusspspn.html)
Title: Re: muscle relaxation???
Post by: He Man on January 10, 2009, 09:14:00 PM
lidocane is great for that. 1cc to the site is good enough usually. I rarely ever had to do it twice. I think thats the same stuff they use in your mouth too.

either way, i have a few bottles of it, not sure where and how much you could get it here though (they are all the old school communist glass bottles)
Title: Re: muscle relaxation???
Post by: Buckethead on January 10, 2009, 09:20:01 PM
If its not responding to the heat and pressure, there's always the possibility that its a tear.

Longer than 12 hours? Go see a doctor.

Worst case, they give you one of the above-mentioned prescriptions and you sleep for a day. (Woohoo flexeril!) (Baclofen ain't too ban either.)
Title: Re: muscle relaxation???
Post by: tcspeedfreak on January 11, 2009, 07:05:28 AM
Quote from: Obsessed? on January 10, 2009, 09:20:01 PM
If its not responding to the heat and pressure, there's always the possibility that its a tear.

Longer than 12 hours? Go see a doctor.

Worst case, they give you one of the above-mentioned prescriptions and you sleep for a day. (Woohoo flexeril!) (Baclofen ain't too ban either.)

yes, its been longer than 12 hours but i dont think that its a tear, i had the same problem last year about this time and i went to the doc. he said that it was just a knot and he massaged it out
Title: Re: muscle relaxation???
Post by: swampduc on January 11, 2009, 07:39:47 AM
I'd go the deep tissue massage route. I get one every 1 to 2 wks because, with my job, I spend a lot of time hunched at a surgical microscope and always have knots in my left shoulder. If you do get the massage, I'd take 600 mg of ibuprofen or some Alleve right after, drink tons of water, and sit in a hot tub or a warm bath with Epsom salts for a while. You may need a couple of massage sessions, about a week apart.
Title: Re: muscle relaxation???
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on January 11, 2009, 09:46:08 AM
I've found most pain is the result of not having enough Jack Daniels with your morning Cheerios.



Have you had your fifth today?
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Post by: tcspeedfreak on January 11, 2009, 02:34:16 PM
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 11, 2009, 09:46:08 AM
I've found most pain is the result of not having enough Jack Daniels with your morning Cheerios.



Have you had your fifth today?

;D ;D ;D nope but been working on the ol case of high life for a few hours now [drink]
Title: Re: muscle relaxation???
Post by: Holden on January 11, 2009, 03:36:00 PM
For knots, pressure works (like you're trying to stop bleeding). Get someone to really lean into it with a thumb or something. Or the corner of a wooden chair. You're not trying to massage the knot, but instead starve it of blood. Your brain will eventually signal the muscle to relax so blood can flow into it once more.
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Post by: bulldogs2k on January 11, 2009, 03:54:35 PM
Deep tissue is the way to go because it causes your GTO tendons to relax.  Use a foam roll if you dont have anyone to put pressure on your shoulder. 
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Post by: Jarvicious on January 11, 2009, 03:57:41 PM
The size of God?  Good luck with that.  I've been trying to get rid of him for years. 
Title: Re: muscle relaxation???
Post by: tcspeedfreak on January 13, 2009, 07:50:18 AM
thanks for all the input from everyone, the evil knot finally went away, several really hot showers with the massage showerhead seemed to do the trick [beer]
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Post by: cyrus buelton on January 13, 2009, 07:55:54 AM
a few vicodin's and a bottle of wine works, too.
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Post by: stateprez on January 13, 2009, 11:33:34 AM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on January 10, 2009, 08:38:35 PM
muscle relaxers work wonders as well.. Flexeril is good as is Ativan (both prescription).  Both will make you loopy tho.

+1 for Flexeril.  It's the heat.
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Post by: lauramonster on January 13, 2009, 12:04:27 PM
Quote from: wark on January 11, 2009, 03:36:00 PM
For knots, pressure works (like you're trying to stop bleeding). Get someone to really lean into it with a thumb or something.

or an elbow.  Sit in a chair and have someone standing behind you and feel around til they find the knot.  Get the point of your elbow on it and lean into it so it's the only thing holding them up!!!  rarely use this, but when a knot won't go away - it gets rid of it!!

happy to hear of the passing of your knot!
Title: Re: muscle relaxation???
Post by: swampduc on January 13, 2009, 01:27:36 PM
Damn. Now I've got one. Good excuse for a massage.