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Title: S2R 1000 - Is there any mechanical differences between an 06 & 07 years?
Post by: DuciD03 on January 14, 2009, 09:20:10 PM
ok all you s2r 1kers ... quiz time.

Is there any mechanical differences between a 2006 & 2007 s2r 1000?  Just curious as i have an 06 manual for an 07 bike ...
Title: Re: S2R 1000 - Is there any mechanical differences between an 06 & 07 years?
Post by: bazz20 on January 15, 2009, 02:55:36 AM
no only ecu in australia cheers bazz
Title: Re: S2R 1000 - Is there any mechanical differences between an 06 & 07 years?
Post by: NAKID on January 16, 2009, 07:55:14 PM
ECU is different in the US as well...
Title: Re: S2R 1000 - Is there any mechanical differences between an 06 & 07 years?
Post by: Norm on January 17, 2009, 07:18:34 AM
I know little about the 1000 series motors and even less about fuel injection, but I think I read somewhere that one of those years has an improved fuel injection. I think Brad Black has done some testing.
Title: Re: S2R 1000 - Is there any mechanical differences between an 06 & 07 years?
Post by: DuciD03 on January 18, 2009, 09:35:56 PM
Quote from: NAKID on January 16, 2009, 07:55:14 PM
ECU is different in the US as well...

Thanks for the above; that's why I was asking the question ....

......... to clarify; the ecu's different in the US 2006 s2r 1000 than in the 2007 for improved FI performance.
Title: Re: S2R 1000 - Is there any mechanical differences between an 06 & 07 years?
Post by: DarkStaR on January 18, 2009, 11:33:34 PM
Quote from: DuciD03 on January 18, 2009, 09:35:56 PM
Thanks for the above; that's why I was asking the question ....

......... to clarify; the ecu's different in the US 2006 s2r 1000 than in the 2007 for improved FI performance.

Why would the ECU make a difference in regards to the manual?

Mechanical possibly, how the ECU is flashed...not so much.  Am I missing something?
Title: Re: S2R 1000 - Is there any mechanical differences between an 06 & 07 years?
Post by: Mash on January 19, 2009, 04:56:41 PM
I think 2007 is the model year Ducati started advertising 50% less maintenance costs.  I don't know how this translates to mechanicals, but something must have changed.
Title: Re: S2R 1000 - Is there any mechanical differences between an 06 & 07 years?
Post by: DarkStaR on January 19, 2009, 06:33:25 PM
Quote from: Mash on January 19, 2009, 04:56:41 PM
I think 2007 is the model year Ducati started advertising 50% less maintenance costs.  I don't know how this translates to mechanicals, but something must have changed.

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The construction is most likely same.  Just that the materials used may have changed.  This change probably happened well before it was advertised though.

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Title: Re: S2R 1000 - Is there any mechanical differences between an 06 & 07 years?
Post by: DuciD03 on January 19, 2009, 09:04:26 PM
Quote from: Mash on January 19, 2009, 04:56:41 PM
I think 2007 is the model year Ducati started advertising 50% less maintenance costs.  I don't know how this translates to mechanicals, but something must have changed.

RIGHT - good point! [beer]  so what did Ducati DOoooo....?!?

it looks like all the ecu's on the  Monster S2R 1000 are all Magneti Marelli IAW 5AM; so is there a variation with the ecu flash?  BTW what IS an ecu flash?  Ie Euro emissions Vs US Vs performance? are the differences I could think of.
Title: Re: S2R 1000 - Is there any mechanical differences between an 06 & 07 years?
Post by: z0mb1e_DUC on January 20, 2009, 05:22:30 AM
these ECU's are essentially EEPROMs, flashing an ECU means that you've caused the memory to be overwritten with new info.
Title: Re: S2R 1000 - Is there any mechanical differences between an 06 & 07 years?
Post by: Capo on January 20, 2009, 07:19:32 AM
I would not worry about ECU differences, there nothing you can do about it. Unless you plan to spead some big $$$ and get rid of it.
Title: Re: S2R 1000 - Is there any mechanical differences between an 06 & 07 years?
Post by: DuciD03 on January 20, 2009, 09:07:14 PM
Quote from: z0mb1e_DUC on January 20, 2009, 05:22:30 AM
these ECU's are essentially EEPROMs, flashing an ECU means that you've caused the memory to be overwritten with new info.

....just asking the Q's to clarify ... so what is "EEPROM"; smarty pants! ;D

Capo - Not so worried about the ecu; just curious how it works; yes ....any monkeying with the ecu is $$$ +$$$ ...!
Title: Re: S2R 1000 - Is there any mechanical differences between an 06 & 07 years?
Post by: nats on February 21, 2009, 10:03:07 AM
I think there is an additional sensor on the 07 which supposedly is not on the 06 model. I bought a late 06 manufactured S2R1000 and it had the sensor which seems to surprise a few. Anyway, gotten rid of it when I changed out for the termi full system. ;D
Title: Re: S2R 1000 - Is there any mechanical differences between an 06 & 07 years?
Post by: DuciD03 on February 26, 2009, 09:34:53 PM
is that the "lamda" sensor in the bladder your talking about? (for CO2 measurment I think..)

Also I noticed the plugs for the ecu are red & blue color instead of gray & black .... theres gotta be a reason!  Explanation anyone???
Title: Re: S2R 1000 - Is there any mechanical differences between an 06 & 07 years?
Post by: hypurone on February 27, 2009, 07:01:29 AM
Quote from: DuciD03 on January 20, 2009, 09:07:14 PM
....just asking the Q's to clarify ... so what is "EEPROM"; smarty pants! ;D

Capo - Not so worried about the ecu; just curious how it works; yes ....any monkeying with the ecu is $$$ +$$$ ...!

Electrically Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory
Title: Re: S2R 1000 - Is there any mechanical differences between an 06 & 07 years?
Post by: nats on February 27, 2009, 07:07:29 AM
Quote from: DuciD03 on February 26, 2009, 09:34:53 PM
is that the "lamda" sensor in the bladder your talking about? (for CO2 measurment I think..)

Also I noticed the plugs for the ecu are red & blue color instead of gray & black .... theres gotta be a reason!  Explanation anyone???

Yes, I believe that's what it's called..Lamda Sensor. No idea though bout the color difference for the ecu.
Title: Re: S2R 1000 - Is there any mechanical differences between an 06 & 07 years?
Post by: DuciD03 on February 27, 2009, 03:51:26 PM
Quote from: hypurone on February 27, 2009, 07:01:29 AM
Electrically Erasable Programmable Read Only Memory

i-did-not-know-that  .... (speaking like scooby doo).  You learn something new ever day .... :)
Title: Re: S2R 1000 - Is there any mechanical differences between an 06 & 07 years?
Post by: hypurone on March 02, 2009, 06:12:40 AM
Quote from: DuciD03 on February 27, 2009, 03:51:26 PM
i-did-not-know-that  .... (speaking like scooby doo).  You learn something new ever day .... :)

Not that you'll use it in everyday life but....it's something.  [coffee]