my dishwasher all of a sudden stopped draining and filling. there's about 3 inches of standing water inside it, that never got drained from the last wash run. i just did a 'rinse only' cycle and it didn't fill, but operated normally otherwise and then did not drain. then, i ran the 'pots n pans' cycle and i got the same result.
what i'm wondering is: would it be a good idea to pour some drano into the dishwasher?
thanks for any help!
;D
pull it out from under the counter, turn off the water and check all the hose connections. probably food stuck in the drain line.
Quote from: bobspapa on January 23, 2009, 05:13:00 PM
pull it out from under the counter, turn off the water and check all the hose connections. probably food stuck in the drain line.
cool! just one thing- i'm in an apartment building and all units are on the same boiler. at one point last
year i had to find the shut-off valve for the shower and after extensive search and destroy i located it covered
up, behind some drywall [evil]
do you think there will be a shut-off somewhere near or in the kitchen area?...i would assume so, since
dishwasher repair/replacement is inevitable in normal conditions....
i'm going on a search. maybe the shut-off is behind the dishwasher...
thanks Bob's, i'll let you know...
I'm going with food stuck in the drain screen.
Give me the Brand and Model and I'll get you a diagram on what to take out to check the drain.
There should be a label with the numbers either on the inside edge of the door or on the inside of the tub just before the seal.
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on January 23, 2009, 05:32:03 PM
I'm going with food stuck in the drain screen.
Give me the Brand and Model and I'll get you a diagram on what to take out to check the drain.
There should be a label with the numbers either on the inside edge of the door or on the inside of the tub just before the seal.
Cool, hang on.....i'll go look...
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on January 23, 2009, 05:32:03 PM
I'm going with food stuck in the drain screen.
Give me the Brand and Model and I'll get you a diagram on what to take out to check the drain.
There should be a label with the numbers either on the inside edge of the door or on the inside of the tub just before the seal.
okay- it's a:
G.E. 'Nautilus'model number: GSD4500GOOWW
(I cannot tell if the 'O's in that model number are zeroes or letter o's; there's no strike through
if they are zeroes)
thanks!
Quote from: Bergweiserus on January 23, 2009, 05:41:15 PM
okay- it's a:
G.E. 'Nautilus'
model number: GSD4500GOOWW
(I cannot tell if the 'O's in that model number are zeroes or letter o's; there's no strike through
if they are zeroes)
thanks!
i think that's yer problem... you've got goo in yer model number ;)
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on January 23, 2009, 05:43:11 PM
i think that's yer problem... you've got goo in yer model number ;)
hahahaa.....that was very clever ;D
Quote from: Bergweiserus on January 23, 2009, 05:48:06 PM
hahahaa.....that was very clever ;D
;D
good luck with your dishwasher!
FYI, shutoff valve should be under the sink, on a tee off of the hot water line.
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on January 23, 2009, 05:49:34 PM
;D
good luck with your dishwasher!
why, thank you :)
Quote from: Bun-bun on January 23, 2009, 05:51:59 PM
FYI, shutoff valve should be under the sink, on a tee off of the hot water line.
...and thank you too..i'm gonna go look :)
okay- i found the shut off valve, and the water is now turned off to the dishwasher.
i'm gonna pull'er out from under the counter....
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These diagrams suck... but it will give some of an idea.
This definitely sounds like a drain issue.
You'll need to start with a shop vac and clean out the water that is in there. You may need to take the spray arm off to access the drain cover (p/n 506). Once the cover is off, I'm lost with this model, but many will have crap stuck all over under the cover.
Is your drain hose connected to a garbage disposal unit in your sink? If so, like BP said, you may have food in the drain. I've used to see quite a few with grease build-up in the drain hose as well.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help, I used to do appliance repair, but I'm more familiar with Whirlpool and Maytag.
Quote from: Bergweiserus on January 23, 2009, 05:57:45 PM
okay- i found the shut off valve, and the water is now turned off to the dishwasher.
i'm gonna pull'er out from under the counter....
Make sure to get the water out of the tub before disconnecting the drain hose!
Here's a link to the owner's manual. Might check the troubleshooting guide for tips on what to look for.
Use and Care Manual (http://products.geappliances.com/MarketingObjectRetrieval/Dispatcher?RequestType=PDF&Name=49-5931.pdf)
Oh yeah, typically draino is not a good idea. The drain hoses a lot of people install on dishwashers don't hold up too well after a soaking in draino.
Just thought of something else.
Either under the bottom cover, or somewhere on the outside of the tub should be a folded up piece of paper. This is the Technicians guide. Should have a button sequence you can push to run a test cycle that may let you know what is failing during operation preventing it from draining.
wow! thanks for all the info, everyone. i had to run over to someone's house for a bit, but i'm back now.
i'm going to switch my shop-vac to wet and start getting the water out.
i'll let you all know how it's going. thanks again! this is a great list [beer] [thumbsup]
crap- now my shop vac isn't working....this may have to wait until tomorrow as it's getting late and
i still need to make dinner. i think i'm gonna tackle this tomorrow before i go out.
will post tomorrow's episode.
THANK YOU A TON Everbody, for the help. i'm completely stoked on all the help. :) :)
*THREADJACK* What's up Berg? Speaking for the DMF we've been missing you. EPECIALLY in the drunk nthreed. Come around more often.
Just sayin' ;)
Dishwashers often get their drains clogged if you put dishes that have a lot of stuff still stuck to them. That or a small utensil got knocked loose & sucked into the drain. Suck the water out and check out the drain for starters.
JM
http://www.applianceblog.com/mainforums/forumdisplay.php?s=941c44b5d1c0ece607256881e34fc3c4&f=17 (http://www.applianceblog.com/mainforums/forumdisplay.php?s=941c44b5d1c0ece607256881e34fc3c4&f=17)
Try this site ^^^^^^.
Some dishwashers have blades before the pump to chop up the food from the dishes and screens to prevent stuff from entering the pump and damaging it. The blade may be broken or the screen may be clogged.
Good luck.
we'll revisit this when your dishes get moldy.
[evil]
Just get a new dishwasher. [cheeky]
Appliances failing left and right.
Maybe too many peppers...
;)
Quote from: MendoDave on January 24, 2009, 02:51:32 AM
Just get a new dishwasher. [cheeky]
Nah. Just tell her to get her ass back in the kitchen.
Quote from: alfisti on January 23, 2009, 07:28:26 PM
*THREADJACK* What's up Berg? Speaking for the DMF we've been missing you. EPECIALLY in the drunk nthreed. Come around more often.
Just sayin' ;)
hey Dog, i'm doing good, thanks! i'm trying to come around more often....i'll hit up the drunk thread as soon as i get a chance ;D
Quote from: the_Journeyman on January 23, 2009, 07:30:51 PM
Dishwashers often get their drains clogged if you put dishes that have a lot of stuff still stuck to them. That or a small utensil got knocked loose & sucked into the drain. Suck the water out and check out the drain for starters.
JM
yeah- i just pulled the drain cover off (inside the unit) and there wass something broken up and some little bits of plastic in there. not sure what it is, or was.
it's definately something in the drain, beuase i got all the water out, and ran a rinse cycle and it started acting normally until it was supposed to drain and didn't.
Quote from: red duke on January 23, 2009, 08:25:01 PM
http://www.applianceblog.com/mainforums/forumdisplay.php?s=941c44b5d1c0ece607256881e34fc3c4&f=17 (http://www.applianceblog.com/mainforums/forumdisplay.php?s=941c44b5d1c0ece607256881e34fc3c4&f=17)
Try this site ^^^^^^.
that's a great site...i'm gonna post my problem on there....thanks!
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on January 23, 2009, 10:56:29 PM
we'll revisit this when your dishes get moldy.
[evil]
for moldy towels and dishes, all i have to do is go over to
YOUR house [laugh]
Quote from: Fresh Pants on January 24, 2009, 06:29:45 AM
Appliances failing left and right.
Maybe too many peppers...
;)
waaaay too many peppers last night. i woke up today and thought it was friday and went to work [bang]
okay....pulled the drainlines off...they are clear and don't look clogged. pulled some stuff out of the screen, and also i spun the shaft driving the impeller on the drain pump and it moves freely... so now i am at a real loss here as to what to do.
there are a couple sections of drain hose going to this place and that underneath. there are three i think.
maybe i'll call my landlord on monday ???
thanks again everyone for the help! i was happy to at least try to fix this thing.
try...hooking up the shop vac to the pipe where the water drains to, that may be plugged. or, if yer shop vac has a blower function... try blowing the drain pipe clear.
Quote from: bobspapa on January 24, 2009, 11:27:04 AM
try...hooking up the shop vac to the pipe where the water drains to, that may be plugged. or, if yer shop vac has a blower function... try blowing the drain pipe clear.
+1 [thumbsup]
Quote from: bobspapa on January 24, 2009, 11:27:04 AM
try...hooking up the shop vac to the pipe where the water drains to, that may be plugged. or, if yer shop vac has a blower function... try blowing the drain pipe clear.
allright- i got my shop vac woking now. and it does have a blower function.
okay, at the lowest point in the 'tub', there is the main drain which gets tubed to the drain pump. BUT- a couple inches above the lower drain, is
another drain which is actually directly above the drain pump assembly and drains tube into the drain pump assembly housing, and from there, both are carried away by the final drain line which goes to the disposal.
i'm wondering if there is something stuck inside of all this plastic housing.
Quote from: Bergweiserus on January 24, 2009, 12:10:57 PM
allright- i got my shop vac woking now. and it does have a blower function.
okay, at the lowest point in the 'tub', there is the main drain which gets tubed to the drain pump. BUT- a couple inches above the lower drain, is another drain which is actually directly above the drain pump assembly and drains tube into the drain pump assembly housing, and from there, both are carried away by the final drain line which goes to the disposal.
i'm wondering if there is something stuck inside of all this plastic housing.
check all that... but also check the drain in the wall. your problem may not be with the washer itself.
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on January 23, 2009, 06:02:50 PM
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Sorry I couldn't be of more help, I used to do appliance repair, but I'm more familiar with Whirlpool and Maytag.
I have a Whirlpool GU 1500XT. Clean light started the dreaded 7 blinks. Sure enough, the screen on the chopper was blocked with debris. The dogs that drive the blade on the chopper are broken. Is there a way to fix this without going for a whole motor? Rinsing the dishes before putting them in the dishwasher seems pointless to me, and a new motor is too expensive for a 7 year old appliance. If it was up to me I would just turn it into a dish storage unit, but...
Quote from: howie on January 24, 2009, 01:56:23 PM
I have a Whirlpool GU 1500XT. Clean light started the dreaded 7 blinks. Sure enough, the screen on the chopper was blocked with debris. The dogs that drive the blade on the chopper are broken. Is there a way to fix this without going for a whole motor? Rinsing the dishes before putting them in the dishwasher seems pointless to me, and a new motor is too expensive for a 7 year old appliance. If it was up to me I would just turn it into a dish storage unit, but...
I have the same machine. You sir unfortunately, need a new pump.
http://www.applianceblog.com/mainforums/showthread.php?t=7477 (http://www.applianceblog.com/mainforums/showthread.php?t=7477)
okay i reached the critial point for opportunity cost with this thing.....i'm calling the landlord.
at least i tried ;D i want to really thank everyone for their help!! i was suprized at the
response i got to this; thank you!
[beer]
[drink]
I bet he finds a GI Joe head and a few tampons when he has the line snaked.
It'll be good to get that head back...
Quote from: bobspapa on January 24, 2009, 07:33:37 PM
I bet he finds a GI Joe head and a few tampons when he has the line snaked.
[laugh] ...thanks for the help earlier. i super apprecieae t it.
Some machines won't drain if the vent that is near your sink faucet gets clogged. Not all washers use a vent but if they do this could be the issue. I've had lemon seeds clog it before. Doesn't take a lot and the vent cover just pulls off or unscrews and is easy to check.
Sorry I'm late getting to the party.
Quote from: MikeZ on January 26, 2009, 08:08:38 AM
Some machines won't drain if the vent that is near your sink faucet gets clogged. Not all washers use a vent but if they do this could be the issue. I've had lemon seeds clog it before. Doesn't take a lot and the vent cover just pulls off or unscrews and is easy to check.
Sorry I'm late getting to the party.
You're just early for the next one...
I'll bet $$ it's this part:
Check valve
(http://www.partselect.com/assets/partimages/260690_1_M.jpg)
Lil flap gets corroded from the detergent, which stops the line from pressurizing...
I pulled my friggin dishwasher out 2 times to double check everything else... Also thinking something was clogging a line. Turned out to be this $7 part.
You remove the four screws holding the screen and molded plastic cage inside the rear of the dishwasher to expose the check valve assembly. Then unscrew the piston and nut assembly and replace it with the new one.
I also stayed in a Holiday Inn last night.