Ducati Monster Forum

Ok, so I found out the other day that a rep for a supplier that my company uses is also the rep for an Austrian company (subsidiary of KTM) that makes the Ducati oil coolers (maybe this is common knowledge).

I asked him if he could get me a deal on the M696 oil cooler and he said he just needs the KTM number that is stamped on the cooler. it should be something like KTM 45###

I already tried to give him the Ducati number (96852709B) and he said he needs the KTM number.

Anyone that has the cooler already, if you can read it, could you let me know what it is?? I emailed my dealer but havent heard back yet...

Thanks gang!

anyone.........

i think only one person here has the new cooler, search the threads and send him a PM.

thanks, good idea, i'll send a message...

still if anyone else can help in the meantime let me know!

There is no way for me to get in there to find any numbers with it mounted.  WAY to cramped in there!  Sorry, but I just cant help you on this one.

no problem, i figured that was the case... thanks anyway

maybe one of the dealers would open a kit and read the numbers off.... but then again that would cut into a sale...

bump...

I've got a kit on the way right now. I'll try to grab it and look before it ships out... I'll report back if I'm able to do so catch it between being received and shipped out.

thanks very much!! i appreciate it...

Oil cooler just came in and is part number 28088002 marked on the bottom. Hopefully that helps you?

Are you able to get all the connections and clips that come with the oil cooler? How much are you able to get it for? Is this a friend doing you a favor or something we can all benefit from, saving us from the outrageous Ducati pricing? I'm in Texas and in a couple months, I am going to NEED an oil cooler but dread spending $500 on it.

i'll check and see, thanks for looking it up for me! i'll keep you guys posted

i wish i could pass this deal on to the rest of you guys, but its a supplier thru my work and the guy is doing it as a favor.

also i have a feeling its only the cooler and i'll probably end up buying the rest of the parts thru the dealer. hopefully, they sell them seperate...

That's cool, have to ask when there is potential for a deal  ;D

Good luck with it, be sure to post pics.

All pieces are separately packaged with part numbers and then put into 1 box to form the kit. I didn't look up any prices on individual parts, but I'll guess that it will be very expensive to buy piece by piece...

Never fear, we are almost done with an aftermarket oil cooler kit for the 696 Monster.  Right now we are testing out 3 possible configurations.  Ultimately when we are done we will offer 2 different kits. One will be for extreme climates, i.e. where we live (PHX) and a moderate climate version.  The extreme version runs cooler than the Ducati oil cooler. Our pricing will be a bit less than the Ducati kit as well.

Who is "we"? Any chance the ETA is before summer?

We are Intense Motorsports / Power Lab and H Competition.  We do everything from fabrication to complete competition and race car builds. I have been both driving and building race cars for the better part of 18 years and go karts for 6 years.  I finally purchased a 696 last summer and have done all my own mods (including coring and welding my own exhaust).  The DP oil cooler kit is a decent kit, however it is pricey. With the right sourcing, know how and testing you can produce a superior product for less expense.  Yes the kit will be ready before summer and more than likely ready before the end of March.

Where are you located? Do you have a website? When the oil coolers are ready to go, how would I go about getting one?

I saw your post about coring the mufflers before and was going to do it until I saw the Mivv Suono exhaust. What other 696-related mods have you done? I hate to thread jack, so is there another thread about your shop or your mods?

Yes we have a website intensepower.com . They will be for sale on the website when they are finished and tested. The mods are tail chop on S2R, mirrors, lights, exhaust coring and soon we might be doing a belly pan for the 696 as well. We do not have any motorcycle stuff on the website yet, but we will when the oil cooler testing is done. I do not have a thread about our shop yet.

alrighty then. now you are going to make me wait on a belly pan. can you sent me plans so i can decide.

Here are the pics of the current prototype that is on my 696.  I am going for a long ride on Sunday to see how hot we can get my 696 with this oil cooler.

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Here are some pics with the left side cover off.
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looks like your tubing is a bit short. the DP tubing runs up the side cover with a couple of clips that hold it.

i have the euro shroud as well. how is that going to work with were your tubing is coming up?

I've got the Euro shroud as well. It looks like if he rotates the valves (on the cooler in the second pic) counterclockwise a bit, and increases the length of the tubes, it would fit with the shroud. Some clips to hold it in place like the DP version would be nice.

Is that the moderate or extreme temp version you are testing? The cooler looks a little smaller than the DP one.

It looks good, as a prototype I am sure you are just checking to see if it works. Then you can worry about modifying the plumbing later

trust me not criticizing, giving constructed input.

There are three reasons the tubing is routed in this configuration.  We are using teflon lined tubing for testing since it can take temperatures up to 500 F. It is also a bit less pliable than rubber tubbing like the DP kit has.   Second, the owner of the shop liked the look of them standing out a bit, thought it looked more aggressive. Third, we are trying to keep the straightest shot just in case we miscalculate the size of the oil cooler needed (fluid likes straight paths of travel).  We can reroute the lines like the DP kit and do the clips if that is what people like.  I am going to take some pics of the whole kit and see what everyone thinks.  The lines do work with the charcoal canister in place right now, I am curious to see how the lines are routed with the euro shroud. Anyone that can send pics? PM me if you have some! Thanks in advance!  As far as the size of the oil cooler, it is bigger in area than the DP kit. The DP kit is a 7 pass cooler that is roughly 6" x 4" x 1.4" = 34" sq, The H competition kit is a 10 pass cooler 6.5" x 3" x 2" = 39" sq. We may only do the 1 kit since it works well in moderate temps as well.  Our kit also is braced by the valve cover so it is braced on both the top and the bottom of the cooler and does not rely on just the plastic shroud for support. There is the rundown on the prototype.

are you  using the frame mounts underneath the shroud at the top of the oil cooler?

Yes we are using the frame mounts, and the valve cover for bracing. Here are some pics with all the covers on.

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yeah with the charcoal canister, i can see the routing you use will work. but with the euro shroud... it won't work so great. haveou thought about using a 90 degree on the outlet/inlet on the engine to clean up those angles?

With out getting too much into specifics, we have that part figured out. You need a special fitting to make that bend.  We will only use AN aluminum fittings cause we like the look and how they work.  The final production will be the special fittings.

if you can look up photos of the 1100 in their euro form i bet you can get a better idea of the tube runs with the small shroud.

Found one Thanks Raux ! I also ordered the Euro shroud to make sure everything fits when finished. I am open to all suggestions, so keep the suggestions coming and thanks! I will make some new lines up next Monday and post some pics.

Regards,
Ryan