I'm just curious if anyone knows what the highest horsepower, lightweight Enduro that's come out of Japan in the last few years is?
I'm toying with the idea of building my own lightweight, street-legal supermono and am looking for opinions on what's the best (also cheap) platform to base it on.
The hope is I can find a salvage titled one, and work up from there.
So... Any suggestions?
I don't think a thumper would be well suited for a super mono. But if I were to make one out of a single I would go with a 2006 or newer Husky SMR450. They are counter balanced, have a six speed tranny, weigh about 260 lbs, and put out 53 hp at the wheel. Plus you would already have 17" wheels and street rubber.
yesssss, i was going to do it to my crf but had to sell it....stupid college
If i had my choice it'd be the husky hands down
if you need it really cheap may look for a dr650
Did I mention cheap? This kinda rules out the Husky... ;D
Plus, what would I build a supersingle out of if not a thumper?
And I'll start looking into dr650s. Thanks!
Quote from: Drunken Monkey on February 14, 2009, 08:12:34 AM
Did I mention cheap? This kinda rules out the Husky... ;D
Plus, what would I build a supersingle out of if not a thumper?
And I'll start looking into dr650s. Thanks!
Well you can find a late model in the $3-$4k range these days. Yes the original super mono was a single but it had the balance of a twin. One of those Aprilia sxv engines would be perfect. Maybe you can find one of those on the used market.
Me want's also...
http://www.450moto.net/ (http://www.450moto.net/)
Suzuki DR(Z)400/650..fun bike and good price
Whats your budget?
Quote from: Roscoe on February 14, 2009, 09:28:51 AM
Whats your budget?
Good question...
Total build price of around 5K. But starting at around 2-3K for the "Donor" bike and another 1K to get something in running shape. From there I'd be looking at spending another 1K or so to really finish it.
Basically trying to figure out how feasible it is to build something like this:
(http://www.classic-motorcycle-fiberglass.com/images/mv66se.jpg)
With around 35-40HP and sub 300lbs.
Quote from: silentbob on February 14, 2009, 08:16:33 AM
Well you can find a late model in the $3-$4k range these days. Yes the original super mono was a single but it had the balance of a twin. One of those Aprilia sxv engines would be perfect. Maybe you can find one of those on the used market.
The Ducati SuperMono was named that because it is a single. In other words - Super Single... Mono... Get it? ;)
He just wants a single cylinder sportbike.
Quote from: DW on February 15, 2009, 05:28:53 AM
The Ducati SuperMono was named that because it is a single. In other words - Super Single... Mono... Get it? ;)
He just wants a single cylinder sportbike.
The idea behind the supermono was a very light sportbike that performed like a twin. Riding a true single (not a converted twin with perfect primary balance) the way a supermono was intended to be ridden is a very different experience. The single is running out of wind and vibrating like mad. The little Aprilia twin would be the same weight and provide the performance characteristics of the original supermono. Get it? ;)
But... but... It won't be a single ;D
I realize the Aprilia will make more power and probably make a better all-around bike, but I really am looking for something with the true power delivery of a single.
Otherwise, why aren't we all riding inline fours?
Quote from: Drunken Monkey on February 15, 2009, 10:18:58 AM
But... but... It won't be a single ;D
I realize the Aprilia will make more power and probably make a better all-around bike, but I really am looking for something with the true power delivery of a single.
Otherwise, why aren't we all riding inline fours?
But... but... it wont have the balance and high rpm of a Ducati supermono ;)
I guess it all depends on what you like about the original. The only way to really do it would be to lop a cylinder off a Ducati twin and add the dummy con rod. If not you have to decide if it is about weight, smoothness, low end power delivery, or the frequency of a thumper. The Ducati single was fairly short stroke for a thumper and the power delivery and smoothness would be on par with the SXV twin. As far as the weight goes, either the SXV or the Husky single would be about the same. Then there is the frequency which only the single will duplicate.
Why aren't we riding inline fours? Because we have taste man!! ;D
have you looked at the Aprilia Pegaso?
While I'd probably be perfectly happy with a supermoto / enduro type bike, for some reason I have my heart set on a super lightweight sportbike with full bodywork.
Maybe even go super old school and fit it with a dustbin fairing. And it needs to be street legal, otherwise I'd look into some of the supersingles kits.
Right now, I'm just researching costs, but ideally I'd like to built it on the cheap (i.e. out of a used bike and used parts)
You could try looking at a Honda 450x. It would put probably more horsepower than your target of 35-40 and there are a few on ebay within your price of 3k. They have a magneto in them already so setting up a front light and signals wouldn't be difficult and I know there are kits out there. Finding a 450x salvaged would be difficult because most arn't street legal so I would keep an eye out for a drz since they come street legal.
Just a quick thought a little outside of the box. What about a KTM Duke single? There is the first generation Duke, plus all of the 690's they are building now. If you started checking salvage deals, you may come up with something pretty quick, easily under your initial purchase price. My guess is you may have to work a bit harder to reach your weight goal, but it may be worth considering.
I am interested in seeing how this turns out.