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Title: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: gm2 on March 20, 2009, 03:31:55 PM http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=35906 (http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=35906)
idiots. Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: Spidey on March 20, 2009, 03:36:43 PM Whisky
Tango Foxtrot Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: desmoquattro on March 20, 2009, 04:28:54 PM DMG...the Special Olympics of Roadraging organizations.
Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: Speeddog on March 20, 2009, 04:31:16 PM DMG: We'd like you to host our race, but not many spectators will come, and you'll lose your ass.
Miller: Ummm, no, thanks. Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: OT_Ducati on March 20, 2009, 04:33:43 PM looks like Ben Spies made the right move..
Just in the nick of time...... Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: gm2 on March 20, 2009, 05:05:54 PM in the inaugural year of their new better best AMA they... fail to make an appearance at the world-level sister event; the only one in the states. the same one that won wsbk event of the year last year and was a major happening for both series.
i'm thinking that nasbike should partner up exclusively with KTM. and i can't wait to hear mladin's parting words as he leaves with his 7th title. Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: DanTheMan on March 20, 2009, 10:00:22 PM Maybe getting into bad contracts is why the old AMA failed. I
Not sure if you would call the old AMA any better but it was consistent (bad or good you pick) and you knew what you were getting. I may be the only one, but i think DMG will figure it out, but don't ask me when. Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: superjohn on March 21, 2009, 04:16:47 AM The TV contract was all about DMG. It was signed and negotiated after DMG took over. Unless they have overwhelming demographic research that shows hardcore motorcycle racing enthusiast and casual fans all find themselves free at 11pm on a Saturday night and want to tune in, I will continue to believe they are morons.
I was disappointed last year when they ran WSBK and AMA on different track configurations to avoid any comparisons between the two, but it was good to have both series together and feeding off each other. Not running this event now makes as much sense as Indycar not running with ALMS more often. At least WSBK has had some of the best racing ever this year. Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: gm2 on March 21, 2009, 05:39:43 AM Not sure if i would blame them for the TV issues, probably a bad contract they inherited from the AMA. nope. not even a little bit. this saturday night 3 months later bullshit was all DMG. Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: superjohn on March 21, 2009, 05:09:38 PM nope. not even a little bit. this saturday night 3 months later bullshit was all DMG. Actually, I think I just figured it out. AMA is broadcast on Speed and run by DMG. Fox owns Speed and pays big bucks to broadcast NASCAR. DMG runs NASCAR too. Maybe they decided having 2 of their properties on at the same time "competing" against one another was bad :-\ Either way, it's silly. Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: zenjim on March 23, 2009, 10:20:06 AM This SUCKS!
I'm riding up there to watch and now it'll just be WSBK? To be honest I don't even now what the Hell is going on with AMA anymore. I figure if I want to even SEE the races I need to be there since God only knows what will be on the tube. Last year the turnout at Miller was huge (or so I heard, that place is so big you can't really tell). What a great opportunity to get the "new" series on line and in front of all the fans. Opportunity? This way to the door please. I thought it was bad before the sale to DMG. These people could screw up a one car funeral.... Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: derby on March 23, 2009, 10:33:56 AM This SUCKS! I'm riding up there to watch and now it'll just be WSBK? you say that like it's a bad thing. ;D Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: zenjim on March 23, 2009, 11:20:42 AM you say that like it's a bad thing. ;D Right you are.Granted I'd go just to see WSBK. I'm also taking some extra time to ride through Utah. So it's a worthy trip. But yeah, if Mladin wins Daytona after just a few practice laps on the bike, this year may turn out to be like last year, but without Spies - ie., 10-30 second leads. Not so fun. But still, you make the trip you want to see lots of racing... Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: gm2 on March 23, 2009, 12:04:52 PM funny, maybe after his seventh title, and after losing 3 (or 2.75) in a row to Ben, people will start to realize that what wins mat's races is mat.
Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: EvilSteve on March 23, 2009, 12:06:24 PM You would think but to put it in Matt's words:
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Mar/090321-66.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Mar/090321-66.htm) Quote Mladin: This Is Progress? by dean adams Saturday, March 21, 2009 Six-time Superbike champion Mat Mladin has held his tongue rather well this season, given how much he despises the DMG group and the new AMA Superbike rules. Mladin hasn't said much and about the only way you'd sense how he truly feels is by watching him take off the Daytona cap that was put on his head in victory circle at DIS and launch it with a quick flick of his wrist. In the post-qualifying press conference yesterday at Fontana, series PR man Adam Saal asked Mladin for commentary as the Jordan bikes seem much more competitive at Fontana than they did at Daytona. Talk a little about the progress being made by (your competitors) Saal asked Mladin. "The gap from first to second is 1.3 seconds. I would not call that progress," Mladin deadpanned. Talk about your bike, Saal asked. "Obviously, the bike is just better than everybody else's, huh?" Mladin said. "That must be it." Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: gm2 on March 23, 2009, 12:14:04 PM you don't think he was being serious, right?
Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: pennyrobber on March 23, 2009, 12:14:51 PM So am I correct in assuming there is no World Supersport at Miller? If they only have one class racing, there will be some serious down time during the race weekend. Better bring extra beer I guess.
It's only a matter of time before AMA is ran exclusively on oval tracks with bikes and riders adorning Walmart and Scoll sponsorship. Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: mitt on March 23, 2009, 12:21:57 PM Walmart and Scoll sponsorship. I think you meant skoal (or scholl) ;D mitt Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: derby on March 23, 2009, 12:24:01 PM So am I correct in assuming there is no World Supersport at Miller? If they only have one class racing, there will be some serious down time during the race weekend. Better bring extra beer I guess. you'd be incorrect... we get the "full world show," supersport and all, this year. [thumbsup] Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: EvilSteve on March 23, 2009, 12:56:59 PM you don't think he was being serious, right? I'm also Australian... so no. ;)Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: zenjim on March 23, 2009, 05:29:43 PM I like Jake Zemke, I really do. But give me a fire breathing asshole like Mladin any day. And I mean that in the most sincere way. I was rooting for him against Ben past 3 years.
Crankshaft? Why I oughta... Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: ducpainter on March 23, 2009, 06:29:38 PM I like Jake Zemke, I really do. But give me a fire breathing asshole like Mladin any day. And I mean that in the most sincere way. I was rooting for him against Ben past 3 years. Funny...Crankshaft? Why I oughta... I hate Mladin. :-\ Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: DanTheMan on March 23, 2009, 07:56:15 PM Looks like DMG is going to have a tough time marketing the racers when race fans don't even like the star in the series.
Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: EvilSteve on March 24, 2009, 04:53:32 AM I hate Mladin. :-\ Hate?Winningest racer of all time in the AMA (by some metrics). Dominates not only races but championships. Has a firey personality and is sometimes abrasive. I could have just described Rossi and any number of other famous racers if you take away some of the comments. Last thing I want to see is a cookie cutter motorcycle racing series, if Mladin is your villain, that's fine but if there are no villains then the series will be less entertaining. One last thing on Mladin; I'm not sure how much performance you get out of a crank if you mess with it (even if he did which isn't clear) but if you give back the points he lost from those disqualifications last year, the Championship with Spies would have been very close. Now look at Spies, what does that say about Mladin? Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: ducpainter on March 24, 2009, 05:13:10 AM Hate? Bad choice of words.Winningest racer of all time in the AMA (by some metrics). Dominates not only races but championships. Has a firey personality and is sometimes abrasive. I could have just described Rossi and any number of other famous racers if you take away some of the comments. Last thing I want to see is a cookie cutter motorcycle racing series, if Mladin is your villain, that's fine but if there are no villains then the series will be less entertaining. One last thing on Mladin; I'm not sure how much performance you get out of a crank if you mess with it (even if he did which isn't clear) but if you give back the points he lost from those disqualifications last year, the Championship with Spies would have been very close. Now look at Spies, what does that say about Mladin? I can't and wouldn't try to diminish his on track accomplishments. He's extremely talented. It's everything else about him I can't stand. Better? Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: gm2 on March 24, 2009, 05:51:23 AM I'm not sure how much performance you get out of a crank if you mess with it (even if he did which isn't clear) you can be pretty sure that he personally had nothing to do with the crank issue. Now look at Spies, what does that say about Mladin? exactly what i've been saying about mat for months during the wind-up to spies taking on wsbk. you are an extraordinarily talented racer if you beat mat. that guy gives 100% every second. as for his personality.. eh, i get that. but i enjoy it as well. =) Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: derby on March 24, 2009, 06:13:13 AM Last thing I want to see is a cookie cutter motorcycle racing series, if Mladin is your villain, that's fine but if there are no villains then the series will be less entertaining. ...and this year the villain is dmg... i'd love to see mladin run the board in 2009. ;D One last thing on Mladin; I'm not sure how much performance you get out of a crank if you mess with it (even if he did which isn't clear) but if you give back the points he lost from those disqualifications last year, the Championship with Spies would have been very close. Now look at Spies, what does that say about Mladin? i've always said that mladin was a world class racer. why do you think that i've had full confidence in spies on the world stage? ;D putting aside the DQs, the battles between spies and mladin were completely fair. they were both on the most-developed race platform in the series and they both had access to the same parts. Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: EvilSteve on March 24, 2009, 06:48:26 AM I think there are a couple of riders who could give Mladin a run for his money on the same hardware in AMA but most of them aren't at the same level.
I'd love to see him sweep and failing that, Suzuki sweep showing that the whole DMG pregnant dogfest was just a waste of time. I'd actually much prefer to see WSBK rules in the US and some really competitive racing across brands *and* riders. The fact is that Mladin is just better. I'm also interested to see him actually get his hands on the 2009 GSXR. I doubt he'll be racing next year though, I think he's done unless someone can challenge him. He's just bored and not interested as evidenced by his lack of pre-season testing. Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: gm2 on March 24, 2009, 06:56:49 AM he's said many a time that he's interested in racing the best riders on the best equipment. we are not in a world of the latter.
i think he'll murder the field, take his 7th title, and go home. Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: gm2 on March 24, 2009, 09:37:06 AM http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=35934 (http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=35934)
Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: EvilSteve on March 24, 2009, 10:21:14 AM That's pathetic.
Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: superjohn on March 24, 2009, 02:29:33 PM WTH? Nice going DMG. No live coverage. Fewer classes (That suck) and they want more money? [puke]
Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: zenjim on March 24, 2009, 07:46:30 PM http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=35934 (http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=35934) "Track sources say that the reduced payment offered for AMA participation is justified because there is no live TV..." Sweet boneless Christ could these people be more incompetent? Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: Speeddog on March 24, 2009, 08:42:16 PM ------snip------------------ Sweet boneless Christ could these people be more incompetent? Well, yes, and that's the scary part. Not that they're anything to write home about now. Perhaps that's the best TV package they could get at whatever (late) time they signed up. (I think someone else advanced the above explanation previously) Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: zenjim on March 25, 2009, 11:07:47 AM So we could have no coverage?
I had this discussion with my boss. No raises or bonuses this year. The good news is you still have a job! Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: desmoquattro on March 25, 2009, 11:17:32 AM I had this discussion with my boss. No raises or bonuses this year. The good news is you still have a job! ...except for the pay cut and mandatory furloughs [evil] Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: EvilSteve on March 25, 2009, 01:15:55 PM And you boss will rape all your imaginary childhood friends.
Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: OT on March 25, 2009, 03:51:19 PM Seems like DMG is being "run" like (many) other companies have been for the past few years....buy it, pimp it, sell it for a profit. Operations, what's that?
The eco crash may have put an end to those plans. Wonder if they'll qualify as a toxic asset? Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: Max LeanAngle on March 26, 2009, 02:13:19 PM Perhaps DMG is trying to suffocate Superbike Racing on a national level in order to make more room for Crass Car Racing, and by design that would require lack of same day coverage of Racing to prove, "lack of interest" from the motorcycling community. Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: Spidey on March 26, 2009, 08:27:40 PM A ringing endorsement of DMG from Kevin Schwantz
Kevin Schwantz weighs in on the new AMA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWn7DW203Ao#ws-lq-lq2-hq-vhq) Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: gm2 on March 27, 2009, 05:41:53 AM A ringing endorsement of DMG from Kevin Schwantz Kevin Schwantz weighs in on the new AMA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWn7DW203Ao#ws-lq-lq2-hq-vhq) looks like it got taken down.. but is still available on the home page of onthethrottle.com Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: ducpainter on March 27, 2009, 05:51:00 AM Still works for me embedded on the forum.
Try changing the quality, or click on the "this video is no longer available". Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: EvilSteve on March 27, 2009, 06:22:52 PM http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/editorials/2009/03/26/editorial-chicanery (http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/editorials/2009/03/26/editorial-chicanery)
Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: gm2 on March 27, 2009, 06:46:20 PM that about sums it up.
Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: Spidey on March 31, 2009, 10:09:19 AM http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/editorials/2009/03/26/editorial-chicanery (http://www.cyclenews.com/articles/editorials/2009/03/26/editorial-chicanery) Mat Mladin's twitter page links to the story. He suggests that people read the comments too. Actually, his tweets are pretty funny. [laugh] http://twitter.com/MatMladin (http://twitter.com/MatMladin) Title: Re: First the BS tv coverage now this. DMG: FAIL Post by: EvilSteve on March 31, 2009, 12:42:11 PM Very funny indeed. ;D
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