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Moto Board => General Monster Forum => Topic started by: eichh on April 15, 2009, 03:33:47 PM

Title: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: eichh on April 15, 2009, 03:33:47 PM
Long story short someone asked what I was riding and I told them S4 Monster and they did the snotty ffffff noise with their mouth. So I asked "what the hell does that mean"? And asked what they rode and they replied gsxr6 and started going on and on about how expensive the tires were and how they wear them out every year and the expensive gear they have. Anyway I walked away mid sentence  because they seemed like a total douche. So my question is how do they stack up performance wise I have no idea.
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: ducatiz on April 15, 2009, 03:38:45 PM
You have more torque and more top HP (117hp vs about 105hp)

http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/046_0607_middleweights_dyno_testing/photo_01.html (http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/046_0607_middleweights_dyno_testing/photo_01.html)

http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/downloads/dynocharts/dynocharts-Ducati-2005-Ducati-Monster-S4R.htm (http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/downloads/dynocharts/dynocharts-Ducati-2005-Ducati-Monster-S4R.htm)

he is talking out his ass.
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: He Man on April 15, 2009, 04:20:50 PM
power yea, but what about aerodynamics? S4 is a flying brick compared to a GSXR600. but we're probably talking about 0-60 times here, which is all about the user.
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: ducatiz on April 15, 2009, 04:22:22 PM
Quote from: He Man on April 15, 2009, 04:20:50 PM
power yea, but what about aerodynamics? S4 is a flying brick compared to a GSXR600. but we're probably talking about 0-60 times here, which is all about the user.

aeros don't matter THAT much 0-60.. around 80-100 they do.
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: Goat_Herder on April 15, 2009, 04:49:26 PM
Quote from: eichh on April 15, 2009, 03:33:47 PM
Long story short someone asked what I was riding and I told them S4 Monster and they did the snotty ffffff noise with their mouth. So I asked "what the hell does that mean"? And asked what they rode and they replied gsxr6 and started going on and on about how expensive the tires were and how they wear them out every year and the expensive gear they have. Anyway I walked away mid sentence  because they seemed like a total douche. So my question is how do they stack up performance wise I have no idea.

If he looks like a douche, walks like a douche, and sounds like douche, then he is more than likely a douch.  You can argue with a squid till your face turn blue and you still can't proof anything.  Walking away is probably the best thing you did. 
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: Spidey on April 15, 2009, 04:55:36 PM
Performance-wise?  What year GSXR?   As a general rules, A GSXR is a track weapon and will probably--even with less power--scoot around a track faster (riders being equal) than an s4.  But that's more about how its designed and set-up than anything else.  0-60?  Depends on transmission and gearing.  

More important, those guys are douchey douchebags douchbagilly douching their douchiness.  
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: Pedro-bot on April 15, 2009, 05:21:08 PM
Apples to oranges.
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: corndog67 on April 15, 2009, 05:29:29 PM
In all reality, the Suzook will probably smoke the Monster S4, and I have a Monster S4.   But if he is such a goober, why not just stuff it in under neath him going into a corner and scare him? 
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: Speeddog on April 15, 2009, 05:29:45 PM
Quote from: Pedro-bot on April 15, 2009, 05:21:08 PM
Apples to oranges.

DingDingDing - We have a winner!

Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: ducatiz on April 15, 2009, 05:35:54 PM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on April 15, 2009, 04:22:22 PM
aeros don't matter THAT much 0-60.. around 80-100 they do.

not to mention, his bigger-than-life head will probably increase drag
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: eichh on April 15, 2009, 06:03:54 PM
I didnt mention it but it was a girl who I was talking to. I was just wondering if one would eat the other alive. I know nothing of the bike so I didnt want to get into an argument about something I didnt have a clue on thats why im asking about it here.
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: superjohn on April 15, 2009, 06:14:43 PM
I usually react the same way to things like that as I do when people go on and on about how my bike is a Ducati and must be really expensive and go 200MPH.

I just smile and give them the "eh? It's alright" and be done with it. For those who insist on fueling their ego, I just agree with them and ride off. "Yes, your bike is much faster. Okay, bye-bye"
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: duc996 on April 15, 2009, 06:18:06 PM
Can't compare the two, totally diff bikes, im sure the gsx will kick the s4's ass on the straights,twisties???depends whose riding i guess :-)
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: corndog67 on April 15, 2009, 06:24:34 PM
There you go, it all depends on who is riding what bike.  I used to go riding  with these older guys on old Toaster tank BMW's that made those old buckets go way faster than I thought possible. 
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: Porsche Monkey on April 15, 2009, 06:37:10 PM
Quote from: eichh on April 15, 2009, 06:03:54 PM
I didnt mention it but it was a girl who I was talking to. I was just wondering if one would eat the other alive. I know nothing of the bike so I didnt want to get into an argument about something I didnt have a clue on thats why im asking about it here.


I think you need to completely describe said girl for us to determine squidliness.
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: Roscoe on April 15, 2009, 06:49:51 PM
Quote from: Ducaholic on April 15, 2009, 06:37:10 PM

I think you need to completely describe said girl for us to determine squidliness.
ding ding ding... we have a winner.  ;D
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: sbrguy on April 15, 2009, 07:19:26 PM
well i'm sure if you ride a gxr 6 with soft compound tires hard then yes, tires will get expensive after a while, afterall a good gxr and an s4 probably put out around the same hp and take around the same tire size possibly, so if you ride it relatively hard then yes you will wear out tires quickly, heck people on this board sometimes only get 3k miles out of tires.
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: gage on April 15, 2009, 07:30:50 PM
Quote from: eichh on April 15, 2009, 06:03:54 PM
I didnt mention it but it was a girl who I was talking to.

Walked away?!?!?

Correct thing to say: "Let's discuss rubber, outfits and riding positions later tonight"
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: hcomp on April 16, 2009, 12:46:47 AM
If she is anything like the squid girl that was with the stunt guys here in Phoenix, her pants were off and was walking around in front of hundreds of people naked...
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: Evil_Ductator on April 16, 2009, 02:00:15 AM
Quote from: ryanracer on April 16, 2009, 12:46:47 AM
If she is anything like the squid girl that was with the stunt guys here in Phoenix, her pants were off and was walking around in front of hundreds of people naked...

pics or it didn't happen  [evil]
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: eichh on April 16, 2009, 04:22:49 AM
I was expecting to hear her say she rides a 14 ,or a turbo busa or something that may warrent a fffff. And yes she was cute but that did not make up for the incredibly brutal rambling I was listening to. Besides the fact she she insulted my bike I decided it best to walk away before I got rude. So what I gather here is the bikes are close in comparison performance wise. Only I doubt people will stare at a gsx passing by or parked in a lot as often as they do a Monster. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: Porsche Monkey on April 16, 2009, 05:08:51 AM
Quote from: eichh on April 16, 2009, 04:22:49 AM
I was expecting to hear her say she rides a 14 ,or a turbo busa or something that may warrent a fffff. And yes she was cute but that did not make up for the incredibly brutal rambling I was listening to. Besides the fact she she insulted my bike I decided it best to walk away before I got rude. So what I gather here is the bikes are close in comparison performance wise. Only I doubt people will stare at a gsx passing by or parked in a lot as often as they do a Monster. [thumbsup]


It must have been a terrible experience for you, your trembling. ;D
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: rgramjet on April 16, 2009, 05:09:12 AM
I think she was testing you, flirting.  Sounds like she was up for some banter or verbal sparring before you stormed off...
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: rgramjet on April 16, 2009, 05:12:25 AM
Quote from: duc996 on April 15, 2009, 06:18:06 PM
Can't compare the two, totally diff bikes, im sure the gsx will kick the s4's ass on the straights,twisties???depends whose riding i guess :-)

Especially if it has a 120 lb chick as the pilot...
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: Porsche Monkey on April 16, 2009, 05:35:09 AM
Quote from: rgramjet on April 16, 2009, 05:09:12 AM
I think she was testing you, flirting.  Sounds like she was up for some banter or verbal sparring before you stormed off...

Yup +1  She wanted to show you her(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/porschaholic/smileys/smiley_boobs.gif)and then(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/porschaholic/smileys/hug.gif)and maybe even (http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/porschaholic/smileys/love036.gif)later on.  Bet your  [bang]
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: MadDuck on April 16, 2009, 09:27:16 AM
I can't speak for the S4R but how's this. I had a super tricked up 2003 999 which I sold because of some general unhappiness with the electronics. Later I bought a 2008 GSX-R750.  The 750 is overall a better street bike & handles a bit better too. Faster than a 600 I reckon too. Despite it's quirks the 999 was more fun to ride & I miss it. The S4R has better torque and it's own unique sound and feel that the Suzuki will never have. Don't sweat it.
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: breakdown on April 16, 2009, 10:02:47 AM
If you wanted to one up the level of doucheness, you could have just said something along the lines of "Yeah but it's not a Ducati".  Depends if you want to sink to their level or not.

For what it's worth, my brothers S4RS will smoke a 600.  He was pulling away from a kid on a brand new r6 even at top speeds.
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: Mika on April 16, 2009, 11:48:30 AM
Quote from: eichh on April 15, 2009, 06:03:54 PM
I didnt mention it but it was a girl who I was talking to. I was just wondering if one would eat the other alive. I know nothing of the bike so I didnt want to get into an argument about something I didnt have a clue on thats why im asking about it here.

dood she wanted you to ask her out and u walked :D
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: DLSGAP on April 16, 2009, 12:26:49 PM
Quote from: eichh on April 15, 2009, 03:33:47 PM
started going on and on about how expensive the tires were and how they wear them out every year

Shit.. I wish i could make a set of tires last a year... he needs to ride more... I go through atleast 4 or 5 sets of tires a year.. no burnouts,, just riding
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: factorPlayer on April 16, 2009, 12:41:52 PM
I don't even acknowledge the existence of japanese bikes.  It's a non-issue.
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: LA on April 16, 2009, 12:44:58 PM
A well ridden GSXR6 is a formidable weapon.  The S4 may actually be down on power a little and maybe on clearence too, but you get em on torque for sure.

I've been able to outrun the R6 and GSXR6 and just stay in front of well ridden GSXR 750's, but they are very good bikes under a good light weight rider (I'm 220).  A kitted S4RS is a little better weapon than the S4 too.

What'd she look like?  I think she was hittn' on ya.

And like DLSGAP said, I've be doing 4 or 5 sets a year for the last few years. My bike eats tires like my kids do cereal.

LA
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: hcomp on April 21, 2009, 09:21:20 AM
Quote from: Evil_Ductator on April 16, 2009, 02:00:15 AM
pics or it didn't happen  [evil]

Here is pictures of said girl.....Do you know what I had to do to track down these pics?

I had to start another thread on a totally different board to find said pics...

http://az240sx.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=42661&st=0 (http://az240sx.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=42661&st=0)

<Gratuitous pics removed>

Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: Porsche Monkey on April 21, 2009, 09:58:05 AM
Quote from: ryanracer on April 21, 2009, 09:21:20 AM
Here is pictures of said girl.....Do you know what I had to do to track down these pics?

I had to start another thread on a totally different board to find said pics...

http://az240sx.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=42661&st=0 (http://az240sx.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=42661&st=0)

<Gratuitous pics removed>




I can smell the herpes from here. (http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/porschaholic/smileys/Crab_2.gif)(http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll161/porschaholic/smileys/Crab_2.gif)
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: He Man on April 21, 2009, 11:15:33 AM
i'd hit that.

also that is crabs not herpes. Herpes looks like horse shoes. duh everyone knows that.
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: swampduc on April 21, 2009, 11:38:09 AM
Well, ryan, I agree: she ain't hot enough to have to put up with her mouth  ;)
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: Duc Fever on April 21, 2009, 11:46:44 AM
I like her riding gear, shes right it looks expensive ;D
Title: Re: gsxr6 vs. S4 monster how do they compare?
Post by: Speeddog on April 21, 2009, 02:01:57 PM
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