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Title: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: He Man on April 15, 2009, 03:48:20 PM
Powder coating wheels Gold
Powder coating swingarm black
999 Showa Shock install
Tomorrow is Powdercoating day! im thinking about holding off on the swingarm though.... i wanna polish it up and throw on black chrome PC
(http://www.powderbuythepound.com/pimages/phpThumb.php?src=/catalog/images/0-drinkware-blackchrome-blackchromespheremugsl27bc_sm.jpg&w=150&h=150)

anyone got any suggestions on how to remove the rearshock spring without a spring compressor? dont want to wait on one. :(



(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3550/3445274491_4a4a0115c8_b.jpg)

(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3305/3445273835_46a2241cd3_b.jpg)

(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3394/3445273199_b1d01847db_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: Mash on April 15, 2009, 06:23:04 PM
Quote from: He Man on April 15, 2009, 03:48:20 PM
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3305/3445273835_46a2241cd3_b.jpg)

Man, I really like the look of the plain aluminum rims.  like the mag wheels on my old camaro.
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: junior varsity on April 16, 2009, 05:42:09 AM
Quote from: He Man on April 15, 2009, 03:48:20 PM

anyone got any suggestions on how to remove the rearshock spring without a spring compressor? dont want to wait on one. :(


an assload of zip ties? (sounds like a bad idea though)
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: Jarvicious on April 16, 2009, 05:54:02 AM
Quote from: He Man on April 15, 2009, 03:48:20 PM

anyone got any suggestions on how to remove the rearshock spring without a spring compressor? dont want to wait on one. :(


You are He Man aren't you?  Spring compressor my ass.
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: DucHead on April 16, 2009, 05:59:16 AM
Quote from: He Man on April 15, 2009, 03:48:20 PM
anyone got any suggestions on how to remove the rearshock spring without a spring compressor? dont want to wait on one. :(

I have the auto version...got 'em from AutoZone.  They'll also let you rent them.  

When putting spring back on, I wrapped a piece of tygon tubing (split open) around the spring to protect the new powdercoat.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/pompino/DSCN1625.jpg)
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: DucHead on April 16, 2009, 06:48:42 AM
BTW, all that shit hanging from the ceiling above the bike looks like an accident waiting to happen.   :o
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: ProTeal55 on April 16, 2009, 10:42:58 AM
What are you planning on doing to your wheels ?
I always wanted to see a blacked out bike with raw "looking" wheels on it.
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: He Man on April 16, 2009, 04:25:03 PM
Quote from: pompetta on April 16, 2009, 06:48:42 AM
BTW, all that shit hanging from the ceiling above the bike looks like an accident waiting to happen.   :o

as long as you dont knock it, it'll be fine, stuffs been up there for atleast 2 years now. :p

Proteal, im PCing them gold. raw would just be nasty looking ( in a good way), but it would take way to much time and effort to shine them up since this is a really rough finish. plus id need to clear it.

well.... i powdecoated my swing arm and wheel. I added pearls to the wheel but i guess 5 minutes of swirling it and shaking it wasn't enough cause half of it is rough and chunky and the other half is PERFECT. :/ i have to strip it and do it again tommorrow...its gonna be a long morning. :(

heres my swingarm.

(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3306/3448925816_15a36fbb6b_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: DucHead on April 16, 2009, 05:10:23 PM
Too bad it didn't turn out first time, but you'll get it!  [thumbsup]

Wait...those are beads of water on the swingarm, right?   At first I though they were powdercoat!  That side does look perfect!!  [beer]
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: He Man on April 16, 2009, 05:17:30 PM
Thats water buddy.  ;D

i make the beast with two backsed up the wheel, ill snap pics of it, and post up in a few hours im gonna head back down there to strip the wheel....AGAIN.
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: Airborne on April 16, 2009, 05:34:46 PM
Dude, GREAT JOB ON THE SWINGARM. Seriously, it looks great. I can see myself now riding the subway over to brooklyn carrying my swing arm. When does the p.c shop open?
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: mookieo2 on April 16, 2009, 05:56:16 PM
Nice work on the swingarm. [thumbsup]


Let me know when I can drop my rearsets off.
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: ghostface on April 16, 2009, 06:06:46 PM
I love it. I had a ladder supprting my bike like that a few times. Rock on.
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: He Man on April 16, 2009, 11:16:47 PM
PC shop will be open soon... [evil]

Quote from: ghostface on April 16, 2009, 06:06:46 PM
I love it. I had a ladder supprting my bike like that a few times. Rock on.

what works works! all the weight is distributed over 4 items.... front stand, 50lb bag, car jack, nad a ladder.  ;) just in case.

now, for some pics!

this was what i was talking about, when i didnt mix the pearls properly it has half grainy half retarded i went back after i posted to restrip and re powder. i left out the pearls.

(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3085/3448855671_edd85fec8f_o.jpg)

this is what i ended up with
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3581/3449671970_8a30fa4be6_o.jpg)

and the front....yea im a lazy mother make the beast with two backser, call me out on it, i dont care, i aint stripping that center line, i was doing it by hand. shit SUCKED. lol i left it there, masked it when i powdered and pulled it off. also, if you look at the caved in section, i could not get the powder to stick there, i even jabed the gun in there and let it rip. not sure if my gun was too weak, or there was some strange electric field there. no biggie, im gonna hit that part with spray paint. black it out.

(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3411/3449671396_af65067b9c_o.jpg)

heres the front end, i had an EPIC fail momment, after i put the tire back on, i was ready to pop the bead out, except i had no valve. [bang] it was a PITA to install the valve with the tire on, i wish i was a bit heavier,i had to brace my back against the wall just so i can push the tire down, i only weight 150lbs. :(

(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3614/3449675020_f99ccdf0af_o.jpg)
( shamless mention......I love my decal!)

tomorrow is a short 2 mile run to pepboys to pick up some grease, then install the swingarm. and i need to find some new rotor bolts, i had to drill out three of them. :( also the  gold specs you see is the gold Powder that fell on my lens.

oh and umm, I went He Man style on the shock...the shock nearly took my fingers off. no go. :( Also a 1098 shock is not a good shock to put on a SSS bike. Im gonna pick up a 999 shock from Chachadder and throw that baby on. Lucky for me im only 150lbs, so the shock is almost spot on (it could be a bit stiffer...)
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: supakpow2 on April 17, 2009, 03:07:30 AM
Looks awesome so far. nice job on the wheels.
can I have the drum in your picture?









;D
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: corey on April 17, 2009, 07:05:12 AM
urgh....
must... powdercoat... swingarmmmm..
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: He Man on April 17, 2009, 08:35:36 AM
Quote from: supakpow2 on April 17, 2009, 03:07:30 AM
Looks awesome so far. nice job on the wheels.
can I have the drum in your picture?
;D


come and get it, im not sure how it even got there. thats where i put my helmet when i open the garage door.

Does anyone know what page of the manual tells you where what grease goes where? Im going to pick up some moly grease and some regular bearing grease at pepboys in a few.
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: ProTeal55 on April 17, 2009, 09:27:15 AM
Quote from: He Man on April 16, 2009, 04:25:03 PM
Proteal, im PCing them gold. raw would just be nasty looking ( in a good way), but it would take way to much time and effort to shine them up since this is a really rough finish. plus id need to clear it.
I am working with my powdercoat buddy to come up with a finish/process to get the "raw" look but yet have it powdercoated with a industrial clear that wont turn yellow. Helps that I work at Billet Specialties and have access to TONS of pieces that they consider "2nd's" to try out different coatings on  [thumbsup]
I WILL have raw/brushed wheels on my bike eventually...
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: supakpow2 on April 17, 2009, 01:51:20 PM
What kind of prep work was involved with the wheels and swingarm?
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: ProTeal55 on April 17, 2009, 02:50:09 PM
Quote from: supakpow2 on April 17, 2009, 01:51:20 PM
What kind of prep work was involved with the wheels and swingarm?
I deg-gassed mine (oven for 45min or so to burn whatever was in their outta it), then media blasted it, then scuffed it up with some light sandpaper, then degreased, then coated it. I am not saying I am a powdercoat pro in the least but I can say from seeing it 1st hand 99% of a great finished product is in the prep...
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: He Man on April 17, 2009, 05:20:59 PM
i wish i had a blaster, i used a chemical strip, 30 mins at 300 to outgas then a trip into my bucket full of Joy Dishwasher.

Though i knicked like 10 different spots trying to get this new tire on. :'( ill have to find some matching nail polish and invest on a real tire changer, because i was trying to do it with 1 tire iron. lol i did it though!
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: ducpainter on April 17, 2009, 07:31:06 PM
It's called the Farraday cage effect.

When you try to powder in a closed area...a corner...where the charge effects oppose each other... the powder goes the other way.

I understand that if you adjust the settings on the gun you can overcome that.
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: He Man on April 17, 2009, 09:57:19 PM
Ahh, thank you. The gun i have is non adjustable though.  I tried to position the ground at different positions closer/futher away from the spot i was trying to powdercoat, and use a less conductive support to hold the wheel up, it helped a little, but not enough to actually get it to stick. Ill give it a 3-4 days of riding before it gets disgusting, so its not that big of a deal.

Also, im gonna need to ask you guys some questions.... the sprocket carrier. what color should it be? I have a gold wheel, black swing arm, i was thinking gold carrier, with a black nut.

(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3545/3451248377_dc2eccc301_o.jpg)

heres the bike in 1 piece (well close to...) With my new pilot 2ct roads! so far ive PCed..


Wheels
Rearsets
Seat Cowl
Brake lever
GP shifter
Right rear wheel nut

and tomorrow,
Sidestand
SIdestand plate
Sprocket carrier

(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3266/3452053426_966cacea50_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: DucHead on April 18, 2009, 04:04:42 AM
Lookin' good!!

Why didn't you shoot your shock spring gold?

The sprocket carrier...either black with gold sprocket nuts or vice versa.   [moto]

Next week, PC your engine case covers black!   ;D
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: He Man on April 18, 2009, 08:48:53 AM
Quote from: pompetta on April 18, 2009, 04:04:42 AM
Lookin' good!!

Why didn't you shoot your shock spring gold?

The sprocket carrier...either black with gold sprocket nuts or vice versa.   [moto]

Next week, PC your engine case covers black!   ;D

im waiting on a 999 showa to throw in. [evil]

just made some calls. Did Masterlink 525....$25 dollars!!! Ca-cyclewokrs + shipping + tax is still cheaper. guess im ordering me some new brakes pads

i just saw your quote about the side cases...i should shouldnt i.... id just tip the bike oer on a matress and do one side at a time (Thats $40 bucks of oil thath as less than 500 miles on it!!!!). 

anyone see that massive oil leak by my exhuast guides? lol
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: ProTeal55 on April 18, 2009, 02:14:17 PM
Quote from: He Man on April 17, 2009, 09:57:19 PM
Also, im gonna need to ask you guys some questions.... the sprocket carrier. what color should it be? I have a gold wheel, black swing arm, i was thinking gold carrier, with a black nut.
Black (contrast is a good thing)...
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: He Man on April 18, 2009, 02:39:55 PM
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3646/3453124199_6d50e3d81e_o.jpg)

all i need is a chain and a bolt for my shifter.
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: DucHead on April 18, 2009, 03:36:23 PM
 [beer]
[moto]
[thumbsup]
Wow, excellent!!!
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: He Man on April 18, 2009, 04:20:56 PM
 [evil]

thanks for all the help pometta! really appreciate it!
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: DucHead on April 18, 2009, 04:26:36 PM
Quote from: He Man on April 18, 2009, 04:20:56 PM
[evil]

thanks for all the help pometta! really appreciate it!

You're welcome...I'm happy to help!
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: damianS4RS on April 18, 2009, 07:00:29 PM
Wow man, really nice job.   [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: Alexandre on April 18, 2009, 07:24:39 PM
thats hawt
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: DucatiBastard on April 18, 2009, 07:42:58 PM
Quote from: pompetta on April 16, 2009, 05:59:16 AM
I have the auto version...got 'em from AutoZone.  They'll also let you rent them.  

When putting spring back on, I wrapped a piece of tygon tubing (split open) around the spring to protect the new powdercoat.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/pompino/DSCN1625.jpg)


Pompetta, I was wondering where you got the Tygon tubing, need to get some for a project...
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: Gus Duc on April 19, 2009, 03:32:42 PM
Nice work man [thumbsup]

Let me know what you have to move to get the 999 shock to fit........I'm in desperate need of a rear shock upgrade to support my fat a$$ [laugh]
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: Mash on April 19, 2009, 03:42:35 PM
Quote from: DucatiBastard on April 18, 2009, 07:42:58 PM

I was wondering where you got the Tygon tubing, need to get some for a project...

I got some from amazon.com, found it while looking for something else.  Do a search at amazon (for Tygon 2075)  to see what their vendors have in stock.  I just checked and the tubing I used for my brake reservoirs is only available in 50ft lengths.  They have other diameters though.

Of course, if I looked a little harder I may have found it elsewhere, but I didn't....


Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: MsTek on April 19, 2009, 03:56:36 PM
That looks great.  I just realized that if I would just paint my bike, no one would know what is was and less likely to be messed with.  Oh well. 

Good job! =D

And I like the decal on the tank too! [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: mookieo2 on April 19, 2009, 05:49:42 PM
Great Job! [thumbsup] That looks pretty good for your first project.
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: red baron on April 19, 2009, 06:38:41 PM
Look great so far. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: BumbleB on August 03, 2009, 07:02:49 PM
Great looking bike! The work on your swingarm alone is inspirational... [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: Big Troubled Bear on August 04, 2009, 12:29:18 AM
Looks great sofar [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: RB on August 04, 2009, 10:05:12 AM
Bike looks great

Can you tell us what you used to strip the wheels? I need to do this soon, and really want to have very little down time.

thanks,
RB
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: He Man on August 04, 2009, 06:10:12 PM
It took me a WHOLE make the beast with two backsING WEEK to strip them by hand. I used Aircraft grade stripper from Kleen, and it wasnt strong enough. My recommendation is Soda Blasting. Whatever coating Marchesini uses, its tough, With stripper, you still need to use steel wool to scrape it off and risk getting chunks of acidic Paint flying everywhere. Not gun.

I have the full setup @ my house to Soda Blast so if you need to get it done let me know.
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: jamanta on August 06, 2009, 08:40:01 AM
Hey He Man,

I want to powdercoat my wheels black but i think it'll be a PITA to remove the tires from the rims. How did you do that? Any special tools or just took to a shop? what about the valves?

i will take mine to a shop, so what kind of prep do i need to do before i take them?

when you put the wheels back together, did you have to re-balance the tires and install new valves or just went with the old ones?

i'm still trying to decide on something with low cost, like just painting the wheel with duplicolor wheel paint.

what are your thoughts on just painting them?

thanks and sorry for all the questions :)
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: He Man on August 17, 2009, 11:06:14 AM
hey, just saw your post. i made a bead breaker, and used some tire irons to remove my tire. it took two people to do it, but you can get away with one if you know what your doing ( it was my first time so i had no clue)

you are suppose to rebalance them, but i didnt. My bikes been on the dyno and hit top speed and its as stable as it was before.

i wouldnt use wheel paint. its not durable and is a waste of time. however, you will need to get the original paint removed if you decide to PC them. something like soda blasting or chemical strip would work fine.
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: uclabiker06 on August 21, 2009, 03:31:54 PM
Wow....sooooo cool.  [clap]

It will be so sweet when you throw that black showa spring in there. I personally think the sprocket carrier would have been nicer in black but overall its really sweet man.  Wait, so the shock spring your going to put in is going to be black?  I powder coated mine black.
Title: Re: Gangsta S2R1000 Spring break..uh cleaning....
Post by: ProTeal55 on August 22, 2009, 07:52:14 AM
Now you need some gold forks to match the other gold bits on your scoot... [thumbsup]