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Anyone aware (or member vendors sell) rearsets that adjust down and back like the Cyclecats used to?

With the rear raised and the clip ons low the stock postition is more aggressive than a 1098 as far as knee bend goes.  There's plenty of room and clearance to go down and back but CycleCat no longer makes their's and Sato's and Rizoma's don't allow it.

Options? Ideas? Thoughts?  CycleCats for S*R for Sale (PM me now!!!!!).

Here are some other rear sets:

Back and Down:
MFW-Vario system
OM Fussrastenanlage on DesmoWorld/shop/F/fussrasten/S4R-S2R (potentially)

Up and Back:
Sato
Rizoma
DP rear sets

Up and Front:
Riding House

Thank you for taking this one CDawg, I was afraid of getting banned for sales-rep-like repeating the MF-Wolf Vario System suggestion :D
BTW MonsterParts have them.

Did we establish that the ones from DesmoWorld will go down compared to stock? In that case; how far?

thanks for the quick replies.

anyone got a link to info on the MF-Wolf system.  No pics on monsterparts and not alot of information about them.

I'm digging through Desmoworld now.

Sorry, I should have been more clear.  Not confirmed.  Asking the wife to help with translations right now...

cool i was just about to look up Chris' email address and shoot out the question.  so you got a reply then or is she translating the site info?

Yup:
http://www.mfw-wolf.de/en/rasten_vario.php?marke=10&markenname=Ducati

The adjustment is in eight positions, 45 degrees each. The racing foot pegs aren't very wide, but total width is a little more than stock, as the pegs are mounted a little bit out because of the adjustable peg carrier. The system is: bike specific adapter, universal 23/30 mm eccentric arm plus the universal pegs.

Nothing too helpful...special material, weight spec, comes with blemish, blah, blah, blah...

How does the adjustment affect shifting?  It appears like this would impact reaching the bar with the bottom back position due to a significant angle difference.

Has this been an issue?

I've sent him an email.  I'll post his reply.

I really like the look of these.  Not currently avail for the S4RS.
I think is goes back 3cm and down 8'

http://www.gillestooling.com/produkt_dateien/presentation_engl/VCR_D01_presentation_engl.pdf

You mean issues with clearance between foot peg and toe peg? It depends on your shoe size, I guess.  The back/down position with the 30 mm arm will create an added distance of, let me guess, about 20 mm. If your toe pegs are on the tip of your feet today, you'd might have a problem. Check it and make sure. On TOB there was at least one guy who said there was no problems adjusting the gear/brake lever down to maintain the stock geometry, if indeed you don't want to change that - which might be, or not be, a good idea.

the geometry was what i was referring to.  in my head at least I picture needing to move foot an extra 12 to 25mm (1/2" to 1" if metric conversion is right in my head.) due to the angle change and the wider arc needed to reach it.

adjusting the lever of course would solve this completely.  These look interesting and if these OM rearsets don't work out to my satisfaction then I'll be giving your MFW's a go.

Thanks for the quick reply.

Cheers.



I like the look of those as well. Shame there isn't a version for the S*R.

Rizomas go down and back.  Lots more comfy.

Really?  I'd read on TOB that they did not.  do you have them?

Yes.  Put them on about a month back.  I'm about 6'2" and this has made the bike much more comfortable.  I'm not sure of the exact measurements but Thumper made the recomendation about a year ago that this is a "must do" for tall riders.  I put it off until now,  but have really been happier after getting these rearsets and new bars.  I was getting leg cramps before but now I have much less fatige in my legs from riding.

Luke

Great.  I'll shoot a note to PJ and take another look at them.  thanks for the info.

I can relate with the discomfort.  I'm not 6'2" but with the change in character and riding postition that i've achieved - folded is the only description that fits (after about an hour change that to Origami).

I also added CycleCat risers at the same time.  I may have added more "back" then down but the combintion of the adde reach for my arms and legs works well.

 PJ has been good to so many of us.

I'm usually/never 100% sure about anything, but in this case.... sorry, you're wrong about the "down" part. At their lowest and most forward position Rizoma pegs are close to stock position, from there you have only back/up options. They are true rearsets.

The "comfy" part is subjective, at best. Having the feet further back will lower the knees thus opening up the angle of the hip joint, which allows for a straighter lower back. Downside is more weight on the wrists, although some riders like to have more weight up front for aggressive riding. This set up will also put more weight/pressure on the knees - for some riders that might be ok, for others it's a disaster.

The pricing on the available rearset solutions is out of sight let alone the potential lack of adjustability that i'm looking for  (kicking myself hard for not just getting the blem cyclecats last year when i had the chance).  Given the lack of consensus about the peg position I'm just going to have to take a plunge and try it out for myself.  I'll be ordering the MFW - for the price it's a relative bargain in figuring out whether or not adjusting the peg position will give me what I'm looking for.  once that's confirmed then moving to a full system/solution will make more sense.

Thanks all.


Stopintime:  Is there another place to order these in the US or online?  I ordered from Monsterparts because I was attempting to support TOB.  Obviously TOB doesn't need that support anymore.  If I must I will but I'd prefer another option.  Thanks.


 [beer]

CWBY

It's probably a good solution to try both back and back/down with the MFWs first. If back is the position for you, then you'll have options later on.
If you need to, PJ will confirm that the Rizomas don't adjust down.

Jeff at MonsterParts has always been, still is, the greatest IMO. He was always ready to help on TOB as well. My guess is that he sooo wishes he was here, but probably is kept from being here by some business agreement. I will certainly continue buying from him. Wish you would too.

Other places you can check out for the MFW-Wolf Vario System :

http://www.whaccessories.com/FootPegLoweringKit.htm

http://www.bike-design.com/search.php?shp_make=14&shp_model=0&shp_year=0&shp_category=177         (Main European shop)

http://www.eurotechmotorsports.com/forms/MyBike.cfm?do=query&new_query=yes&q_string=&q_model=359&q_manufacturer=all&q_brand=all&q_producttype=all  (US importer)

http://www.monsterparts.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?                                                                                    (again ;))

When time comes, maybe you'll need some help with the parts #. I've done my research and I'm pretty sure I've got it right. Ask me here or (again) get the kind of help you want from Jeff [cheeky] [beer]

Since you've been so helpful and deftly handled my question and supported him I felt I'd reply. 

Here's why I'm on the fence regarding Monsterparts.  I'm not boycotting him but I do now look at my other options.   Jeff has been prompt in replies and shipping in the past and been a good guy to deal with.    Monsterparts was built off of the DML store.  It was the good will from the forum and my desire to assist it's founders and Admins that drove my purchases from him as opposed to the dealer network or other sponsors I had used prior. 

I don't fault him for either move (the sale of TOB or using it to launch/grow a side business).  Taken together they muddy things for me though.  As a result I've resumed using my old vendors/dealers when I can.

In this case though it appears there aren't any other sources for MFW with a good web presence (the official dealer  euro something is now wholesale only) so I just used MP again. 

Thanks for the information and assistance.

CWBY

Sorry about my misunderstanding of my rearsets.  They felt so nice I just assumed it was down.  Well in that case back works just as well.  Here are the measurements full down and back if anyone wants a comparo.  (measurements are from the farthest point of the swingarm nut).


(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/lukevn/IMG_3499.jpg)
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/lukevn/IMG_3500.jpg)

Luke

I double checked my stock pegs with your measurements in hand. I didn't do it very accurately, but it seems like your pegs are at stock height and a little further back. It's very interesting how little it takes to make things much more comfortable. I'm sure the sharper grip on the Rizoma pegs helps too - less need to push the feet down to have a good grip?