Rearsets -- Down and Back

Started by COWBOY, May 16, 2008, 01:04:56 PM

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COWBOY

Anyone aware (or member vendors sell) rearsets that adjust down and back like the Cyclecats used to?

With the rear raised and the clip ons low the stock postition is more aggressive than a 1098 as far as knee bend goes.  There's plenty of room and clearance to go down and back but CycleCat no longer makes their's and Sato's and Rizoma's don't allow it.

Options? Ideas? Thoughts?  CycleCats for S*R for Sale (PM me now!!!!!).


2005 S2R -- Mods installed: DP termi full racing kit, ST4 Forks, S4R rear shock, 999 Radial Brake and Clutch MCs, 4 pot Brembo Calipers, 320mm Snowflake rotors, SBK Quick change carrier, 43T rear sproket, Tomaselli Clip Ons, Cyclecat Frame Sliders, ASV Levers, zero indicators, Supernova taillight

CDawg

#1
Here are some other rear sets:

Back and Down:
MFW-Vario system
OM Fussrastenanlage on DesmoWorld/shop/F/fussrasten/S4R-S2R (potentially)

Up and Back:
Sato
Rizoma
DP rear sets

Up and Front:
Riding House



stopintime

Quote from: CDawg on May 16, 2008, 01:25:22 PM
Here are some other rear sets:

Back and Down:
MFW-Vario system
OM Fussrastenanlage on DesmoWorld/shop/F/fussrasten/S4R-S2R

Up and Back:
Sato
Rizoma
DP rear sets

Up and Front:
Riding House




Thank you for taking this one CDawg, I was afraid of getting banned for sales-rep-like repeating the MF-Wolf Vario System suggestion :D
BTW MonsterParts have them.

Did we establish that the ones from DesmoWorld will go down compared to stock? In that case; how far?
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

COWBOY

thanks for the quick replies.

anyone got a link to info on the MF-Wolf system.  No pics on monsterparts and not alot of information about them.

I'm digging through Desmoworld now.


2005 S2R -- Mods installed: DP termi full racing kit, ST4 Forks, S4R rear shock, 999 Radial Brake and Clutch MCs, 4 pot Brembo Calipers, 320mm Snowflake rotors, SBK Quick change carrier, 43T rear sproket, Tomaselli Clip Ons, Cyclecat Frame Sliders, ASV Levers, zero indicators, Supernova taillight

CDawg

Quote from: stopintime on May 16, 2008, 01:39:24 PM
Did we establish that the ones from DesmoWorld will go down compared to stock? In that case; how far?

Sorry, I should have been more clear.  Not confirmed.  Asking the wife to help with translations right now...

COWBOY

cool i was just about to look up Chris' email address and shoot out the question.  so you got a reply then or is she translating the site info?



2005 S2R -- Mods installed: DP termi full racing kit, ST4 Forks, S4R rear shock, 999 Radial Brake and Clutch MCs, 4 pot Brembo Calipers, 320mm Snowflake rotors, SBK Quick change carrier, 43T rear sproket, Tomaselli Clip Ons, Cyclecat Frame Sliders, ASV Levers, zero indicators, Supernova taillight

stopintime

Yup:
http://www.mfw-wolf.de/en/rasten_vario.php?marke=10&markenname=Ducati

The adjustment is in eight positions, 45 degrees each. The racing foot pegs aren't very wide, but total width is a little more than stock, as the pegs are mounted a little bit out because of the adjustable peg carrier. The system is: bike specific adapter, universal 23/30 mm eccentric arm plus the universal pegs.
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

CDawg

Quote from: COWBOY on May 16, 2008, 01:58:37 PM
cool i was just about to look up Chris' email address and shoot out the question.  so you got a reply then or is she translating the site info?

Nothing too helpful...special material, weight spec, comes with blemish, blah, blah, blah...

COWBOY

#8
Quote from: stopintime on May 16, 2008, 02:02:17 PM
Yup:
http://www.mfw-wolf.de/en/rasten_vario.php?marke=10&markenname=Ducati

The adjustment is in eight positions, 45 degrees each. The racing foot pegs aren't very wide, but total width is a little more than stock, as the pegs are mounted a little bit out because of the adjustable peg carrier. The system is: bike specific adapter, universal 23/30 mm eccentric arm plus the universal pegs.


How does the adjustment affect shifting?  It appears like this would impact reaching the bar with the bottom back position due to a significant angle difference.

Has this been an issue?

2005 S2R -- Mods installed: DP termi full racing kit, ST4 Forks, S4R rear shock, 999 Radial Brake and Clutch MCs, 4 pot Brembo Calipers, 320mm Snowflake rotors, SBK Quick change carrier, 43T rear sproket, Tomaselli Clip Ons, Cyclecat Frame Sliders, ASV Levers, zero indicators, Supernova taillight

COWBOY

Quote from: CDawg on May 16, 2008, 02:20:43 PM
Nothing too helpful...special material, weight spec, comes with blemish, blah, blah, blah...

I've sent him an email.  I'll post his reply.

2005 S2R -- Mods installed: DP termi full racing kit, ST4 Forks, S4R rear shock, 999 Radial Brake and Clutch MCs, 4 pot Brembo Calipers, 320mm Snowflake rotors, SBK Quick change carrier, 43T rear sproket, Tomaselli Clip Ons, Cyclecat Frame Sliders, ASV Levers, zero indicators, Supernova taillight

CDawg

#10
I really like the look of these.  Not currently avail for the S4RS.
I think is goes back 3cm and down 8'




stopintime

Quote from: COWBOY on May 16, 2008, 02:20:48 PM
How does the adjustment affect shifting?  It appears like this would impact reaching the bar with the bottom back position due to a significant angle difference.

Has this been an issue?

You mean issues with clearance between foot peg and toe peg? It depends on your shoe size, I guess.  The back/down position with the 30 mm arm will create an added distance of, let me guess, about 20 mm. If your toe pegs are on the tip of your feet today, you'd might have a problem. Check it and make sure. On TOB there was at least one guy who said there was no problems adjusting the gear/brake lever down to maintain the stock geometry, if indeed you don't want to change that - which might be, or not be, a good idea.
252,000 km/seventeen years - loving it

COWBOY

#12
Quote from: stopintime on May 16, 2008, 02:47:50 PM
You mean issues with clearance between foot peg and toe peg? It depends on your shoe size, I guess.  The back/down position with the 30 mm arm will create an added distance of, let me guess, about 20 mm. If your toe pegs are on the tip of your feet today, you'd might have a problem. Check it and make sure. On TOB there was at least one guy who said there was no problems adjusting the gear/brake lever down to maintain the stock geometry, if indeed you don't want to change that - which might be, or not be, a good idea.

the geometry was what i was referring to.  in my head at least I picture needing to move foot an extra 12 to 25mm (1/2" to 1" if metric conversion is right in my head.) due to the angle change and the wider arc needed to reach it.

adjusting the lever of course would solve this completely.  These look interesting and if these OM rearsets don't work out to my satisfaction then I'll be giving your MFW's a go.

Thanks for the quick reply.

Cheers.

Quote from: CDawg on May 16, 2008, 02:42:30 PM
I really like the look of these.  Not currently avail for the S4RS.
I think is goes back 3cm and down 8'






I like the look of those as well. Shame there isn't a version for the S*R.

2005 S2R -- Mods installed: DP termi full racing kit, ST4 Forks, S4R rear shock, 999 Radial Brake and Clutch MCs, 4 pot Brembo Calipers, 320mm Snowflake rotors, SBK Quick change carrier, 43T rear sproket, Tomaselli Clip Ons, Cyclecat Frame Sliders, ASV Levers, zero indicators, Supernova taillight

LUKE

Rizomas go down and back.  Lots more comfy.


COWBOY

Really?  I'd read on TOB that they did not.  do you have them?

2005 S2R -- Mods installed: DP termi full racing kit, ST4 Forks, S4R rear shock, 999 Radial Brake and Clutch MCs, 4 pot Brembo Calipers, 320mm Snowflake rotors, SBK Quick change carrier, 43T rear sproket, Tomaselli Clip Ons, Cyclecat Frame Sliders, ASV Levers, zero indicators, Supernova taillight