2009 mb SL 65 AMG :o :o :o :o
One of the smartest moves Mercedes ever made was buying up AMG, at the time an outside Benz tuner, and incorporating it as the tuning division of the brand. This gives Mercedes a lot of marketing clout and provides a needed spice-up to the brand as compared to its rivals over at Audi and BMW who both enjoy a more sporty image to their mainline models.
The AMG Mercedes SL 65 Black Series comes with AMG's own 6.0-liter V12 bi-turbo engine, developing 493 kW / 670 hp at 5,400 rpm. The torque is electronically limited to 1,000 Nm from 2,200 to 4,200 rpm lest the car's burning wheels burrow themselves right into the ground and leave you stuck in the melting asphalt.
The SL 65 Black Series comes with a five-speed automatic gearbox with four drive programs: C, S, M1 and M2. AMG claims the M2 setting has a response time 20% quicker than M1. I guess the letters stand for Comfort, Sport, Mucho-fast 1, and 2-wice as Mucho-fast, respectively.
There are also three suspension settings with the ESP ON, ESP SPORT, ESP OFF/Let's tempt fate.
This SL 65 AMG also sports an impressive 2.79 kg/hp weight to power ratio. Hey, that's like asking a horse to carry your laptop, isn't it? It's light as air. Or maybe we shouldn't trust my sense of physics which comes mostly from watching cartoons.
The press release comes with a litany of details. Enjoy.
SL 65 AMG Black Series
Cylinder arrangement, no. of valves per cylinder
V12, 3
Engine displacement cm3
5,980
Bore x stroke mm
82.6 x 93.0
Compression ratio
9.0:1
Output kW/hp at 1 rpm
493/670
5,400
Max. torque
Nm at 1/rpm 1,000*
2,200â€"4,200
Acceleration 0â€"100 km/h s/0â€"200 km/h s
3.8
11.0
Top speed km/h
320*
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When I was at Road America last summer, one of the participants brought his CLK63 AMG Black to the event. It was his 'backup' car - the brakes in his Carrera GT were having issues. :o [laugh] He got black-flagged in the CLK, too -- the stability control sys was causing his inside rear wheel to smoke in the corners. :-\
Neat car, though. This SL65 looks like a terrific machine. [thumbsup]
Max power : too much
Max torque : way to much
Top speed : dont know
Leather interior : probably not.
Manly factor : hell yea
(http://i13.tinypic.com/40fwr9h.jpg)
youll be going so fast, the wind will rip the panties off of women.
Mercedes' billboard says, "aww how cute. You two are playing"
Numbers are impressive, but most Mercedes never do it for me...
The AMG is way beyond a Mercedes.
Oh I know. They are extremely well built and classy cars. But, the looks for the money doesn't equate for me. I'd much rather have a Porshe, Koenigsegg, R8...
I got a ride in a 'regular" SL65 a few years ago. HOLY make the beast with two backs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[bow_down]
Yep the AMG cars are really fun. Rode in an E63 AMG last summer, and I could totally get along with that program. [laugh]
(http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/7/s/O/gj_07mbe_E63.jpg)
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on April 23, 2009, 01:45:20 PM
2009 mb SL 65 AMG :o :o :o :o
[SL 65 AMG Black Series
Cylinder arrangement, no. of valves per cylinder
V12, 3
Engine displacement cm3
5,980
Bore x stroke mm
82.6 x 93.0
Compression ratio
9.0:1
Output kW/hp at 1 rpm
493/670
5,400
Max. torque
Nm at 1/rpm 1,000*
2,200â€"4,200
Acceleration 0â€"100 km/h s/0â€"200 km/h s
3.8
11.0
Top speed km/h
320*
Fuel ecomony
Ah, who cares
Price
2 pounds of unobtainium
Fixed it for ya
$320,000
Mercedes-Benz SL 65 AMG Black Series (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMowwZzCsjA#ws-lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
the black one looks killer...
I can't wait until Top Gear tests one out
problem with the car is first its an automatic, a true sports car should at the very least have an automated clutch actuated by paddle shifters, and then as an option have a proper manual, afterall what is the point of an automatic? that takes all the fun out of the car experience.
second, the car is way too heavy, like all benz its too heavy, they need to actually make that inot what it should be a stripped down car for true enthusiasts that weighs maybe 2800 pounds tops
Quote from: sbrguy on April 23, 2009, 10:37:21 PM
problem with the car is first its an automatic, a true sports car should at the very least have an automated clutch actuated by paddle shifters, and then as an option have a proper manual, afterall what is the point of an automatic? that takes all the fun out of the car experience.
second, the car is way too heavy, like all benz its too heavy, they need to actually make that inot what it should be a stripped down car for true enthusiasts that weighs maybe 2800 pounds tops
670 HP
all carbon fiber
made by the german
trust me the car is a beast, its leaves quite a few in its class in the dust including lambo
looks badass!
the 320k price tag puts it a little out of the range of a m3 or an s4......or an R8
Quote from: sbrguy on April 23, 2009, 10:37:21 PM
problem with the car is first its an automatic, a true sports car should at the very least have an automated clutch actuated by paddle shifters, and then as an option have a proper manual, afterall what is the point of an automatic? that takes all the fun out of the car experience.
second, the car is way too heavy, like all benz its too heavy, they need to actually make that inot what it should be a stripped down car for true enthusiasts that weighs maybe 2800 pounds tops
Uh, it's probably because an automatic is easier to control electronically, thus preventing idiots from beating on it wrong. Also, the automatic in that thing probably shifts faster than people can move.
A *true* enthusiast would care more about performance than if he got to play with a shifter or not.
It's light-it goes 0-100km/h in 3.8. That is an enthusiasts car.
If only they didn't come with a slushbox as the only transmission. I want to row my own, so I'd take the M3 first.
Why is everyone down so much on auto trannies?
I was always a "row-your-own" kinda guy too.
As technology progresses, you are going to see fewer and fewer of them. Heck in some applications, they are the slowest selling models.
I gotta tell you guys, the 8-spd auto in the Lexus IS-F is butter smooth, with quick and precise shifts (and that was in "auto mode" - I don't think I could get quicker shifts using the paddles). Not to mention, that car is wicked quick, scary fast and has a nasty exhaust note! [thumbsup]
Yeah, take a look at the VW DSG. It's shifts in 100miliseconds. If you can do better than that, you should be driving for a living...
320K is way out of my price range. That's like the down payment on a house in Marin. Or almost what a house costs in my neck of the woods.
I think I'm just going to fix my 79 BMW 320i & drive the lowly E320 wagon around.
BTW the manual/automatic in the E320 has made me a halfway convert to automatics. It's not a bad compromise at all.
Quote from: MrIncredible on April 24, 2009, 12:26:22 PM
It's light-it goes 0-100km/h in 3.8. That is an enthusiasts car.
It's 1870 kg...that's over 4k lbs.
A Murcielago LP640 is 1650 or roughly 400 lbs less WITH all wheel drive for the same money....faster quarter mile also.
Plus you can't park a Lambo next to some trophy wife who has what looks like the same car as you without a body kit.
when did Ducati guys start saying it was all about the performance numbers and not the actual experience? weird.
Quote from: stateprez on April 25, 2009, 05:47:04 AM
It's 1870 kg...that's over 4k lbs.
A Murcielago LP640 is 1650 or roughly 400 lbs less WITH all wheel drive for the same money....faster quarter mile also.
Plus you can't park a Lambo next to some trophy wife who has what looks like the same car as you without a body kit.
No one said it was the
best enthusiasts car. I'm just saying no one buys a car that fast because they like to go slow.
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on April 24, 2009, 07:45:42 PM
Why is everyone down so much on auto trannies?
I was always a "row-your-own" kinda guy too.
As technology progresses, you are going to see fewer and fewer of them. Heck in some applications, they are the slowest selling models.
I gotta tell you guys, the 8-spd auto in the Lexus IS-F is butter smooth, with quick and precise shifts (and that was in "auto mode" - I don't think I could get quicker shifts using the paddles). Not to mention, that car is wicked quick, scary fast and has a nasty exhaust note! [thumbsup]
That's true, but to me it's not as much fun. That extra .2 seconds to 60 looks impressive in a magazine article, but to me it's boring to drive.
Of course, I'm also a major league control freak, so that may also account for my preference.
Quote from: Statler on April 25, 2009, 09:06:36 AM
when did Ducati guys start saying it was all about the performance numbers and not the actual experience? weird.
That only pertains to Ducati's. ;)
Quote from: Statler on April 25, 2009, 09:06:36 AM
when did Ducati guys start saying it was all about the performance numbers and not the actual experience? weird.
if they made ferraris and lambos that on teh outside looked sick but only did 0-60 in 5 seconds but cost $17000, we'd buy those too and ride to startbucks talkin about soul trr uusss t me.
The SL65 is lots of fun. :D Even with the automatic, it's a beast to be able to put all the power to the ground. So I would imagine the black series with the fixed roof to be a whole lot of fun, since it's more rigid than the convertible.
Some pics taken along Bear Creek Road in Orinda/Briones area.
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Quote from: ptam on April 26, 2009, 09:33:46 AM
The SL65 is lots of fun. :D Even with the automatic, it's a beast to be able to put all the power to the ground. So I would imagine the black series with the fixed roof to be a whole lot of fun, since it's more rigid than the convertible.
Some pics taken along Bear Creek Road in Orinda/Briones area.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2416/2381256011_335f17cfc5.jpg?v=0)
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sex
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wheels.
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on April 24, 2009, 06:58:47 AM
670 HP
all carbon fiber
made by the german - "You know the Germans always make good stuff!"
trust me the car is a beast, its leaves quite a few in its class in the dust including lambo
That's it.. I knew it... Beck is really Vince!
(http://mrcecil.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/vince_-_sham_wow.jpg)
doubt if I'll ever even get a used SL, but I know my next car (if it's a benz) will be an AMG
(I'm still rather smitten over the E55 estate... that's some hotness)
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on April 28, 2009, 02:16:45 PM
That's it.. I knew it... Beck is really Vince!
(http://mrcecil.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/vince_-_sham_wow.jpg)
LOL
you got me rev! 8)
Quote from: teddy037.2 on April 28, 2009, 02:56:59 PM
doubt if I'll ever even get a used SL, but I know my next car (if it's a benz) will be an AMG
(I'm still rather smitten over the E55 estate... that's some hotness)
I really liked the E55 wagon as well ... I had a CLS55 AMG for a little while, the V8 Kompressor motor is lots of fun, I really liked the mechanical-ness of the supercharger and it sounded like a *ahem* monster when you stepped on it. I think I like the V8 Kompressor over the V12 bi-turbo motor of the 65.
(https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3004/2381254101_0c52f8274d.jpg?v=0)
Quote from: ptam on April 26, 2009, 09:33:46 AM
Some pics taken along Bear Creek Road in Orinda/Briones area.
bear creek's a fun little stretch. kinda bumpy in the banked turns though so it's fun to test suspension on ;)
Quote from: Ash on April 30, 2009, 01:12:34 PM
bear creek's a fun little stretch. kinda bumpy in the banked turns though so it's fun to test suspension on ;)
There is this one bump inthe pavement when you're coming up the hill (away from Alhambra Valley Rd.) just leaving Briones ... that I remember launching off of.
oh hell yeah i've had a few doozies there.
a friend of mine hasd a minor crash turning onto bear creek off of alhambra valley... slide into the ravine!
bear creek is one of the reasons i want a steering damper...