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Moto Board => Tech => Topic started by: lemond on May 04, 2009, 06:12:16 PM

Title: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: lemond on May 04, 2009, 06:12:16 PM
how come on average a motorcycle tire is usually more expensive than a car tire? and where do you get good deals on tires?
Title: Re: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: red baron on May 04, 2009, 08:24:45 PM
it's a fun tax.

jk, it likely a technology thing.

cycle gear usually has good prices.
Title: Re: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: Holden on May 04, 2009, 08:31:39 PM
Oligopolistic collusion. I bet it's a cartel. I also bet they're a lot cheaper in Indochina :P
Title: Re: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: DarkStaR on May 04, 2009, 08:40:59 PM
I don't think so.  I'd say it's about even.

What kind of car you drive is a key factor also.
Title: Re: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: Speeddog on May 04, 2009, 09:32:48 PM
I'd say it's mostly the volume of production, lots more car tires made.

Title: Re: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: erkishhorde on May 04, 2009, 10:13:59 PM
The same reason that women's underwear is more expensive than men's underwear even though there is less fabric to it.
Title: Re: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: corndog67 on May 04, 2009, 10:45:23 PM

Because we need them, and only get about 3000 miles out of them.  They got us by the poo-poo.
Title: Re: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: Goat_Herder on May 04, 2009, 10:49:55 PM
Quote from: lemond on May 04, 2009, 06:12:16 PM
how come on average a motorcycle tire is usually more expensive than a car tire? and where do you get good deals on tires?

Tires for a Monster (i.e. Pilot Power) are probably on par with tires used on a sports sedan/coupe (i.e. BMW 335i).  It's definitely much more expensive per tire than that for a Carolla.
Title: Re: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: herm on May 05, 2009, 04:27:37 AM
Quote from: erkishhorde on May 04, 2009, 10:13:59 PM
The same reason that women's underwear is more expensive than men's underwear even though there is less fabric to it.

so the fun factor is a pricing point
Title: Re: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: the_Journeyman on May 05, 2009, 06:38:35 AM
I say technology and compare to a very high performance car tire.  Think about the difference between the BFGoodright Momentums on my Taurus and the ties you'd find on a top-line Corvertte.  The price for the entire set for the Taurus is likely less than a single tire for the Corvette ~

JM
Title: Re: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: herm on May 05, 2009, 12:33:09 PM
nothing to do with technology....
which is more expensive, a g-string, or supportive granny panties?
and which one had more material and technology behind it?

























[evil]
Title: Re: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: erkishhorde on May 05, 2009, 01:25:48 PM
Quote from: herm on May 05, 2009, 12:33:09 PM
nothing to do with technology....
which is more expensive, a g-string, or supportive granny panties?
and which one had more material and technology behind it?

























[evil]

I like that we're in agreement here.  ;D It's just a premium. You pay more for the nicer things in life.
Title: Re: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: herm on May 05, 2009, 03:50:59 PM
some things are worth it.....
Title: Re: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: lemond on May 05, 2009, 07:00:28 PM
http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=&L2=&L3=&L4=&item=CGC_1430000_cmbo_pkg_G (http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=&L2=&L3=&L4=&item=CGC_1430000_cmbo_pkg_G)

cyclegear set of diabolo ss, good deal for $190?
Title: Re: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: EEL on May 05, 2009, 07:32:53 PM
Personal opinon:

Extra liability begets extra cost. Motorcycle tires are built to a slightly higher tolerance and are required to perform at a higher level. I hate to say it but I accidentally ran a on  a flat rear tire for a couple of days. It rode weird but it held together.

Title: Re: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: superjohn on May 05, 2009, 07:46:56 PM
Quote from: Speeddog on May 04, 2009, 09:32:48 PM
I'd say it's mostly the volume of production, lots more car tires made.



+1. Low volume, high tech, dual compound sneakers tend to be pretty pricey.
Title: Re: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: erkishhorde on May 05, 2009, 09:53:28 PM
Quote from: lemond on May 05, 2009, 07:00:28 PM
http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=&L2=&L3=&L4=&item=CGC_1430000_cmbo_pkg_G (http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=&L2=&L3=&L4=&item=CGC_1430000_cmbo_pkg_G)

cyclegear set of diabolo ss, good deal for $190?

I think buying tires at cyclegear is good if only for their nail policy. But I myself always get my tires of a little independent shop by my parent's place and every time they tell me that I should get my rotors checked.  ;D
Title: Re: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: the_Journeyman on May 06, 2009, 06:45:02 AM
Quote from: lemond on May 05, 2009, 07:00:28 PM
http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=&L2=&L3=&L4=&item=CGC_1430000_cmbo_pkg_G (http://www.cyclegear.com/spgm.cfm?L1=&L2=&L3=&L4=&item=CGC_1430000_cmbo_pkg_G)

cyclegear set of diabolo ss, good deal for $190?

Good deal IMO, if you don't mount tires yourself, make sure the charge for a shop to do tires you didn't buy there doesn't exceed the savings of buying online ~

I have a 160 rear on my M750 (OEM) and a 170 rear on my SS (also OEM).  Too bad neither are available with this package ~

JM
Title: Re: why are motorcycle tires more expensive than their automotive counterpart?
Post by: jerryz on May 07, 2009, 10:41:33 AM
Decent motorcycle tyres are 25% more expensive in Thailand and Singapore than USA or EU.

They are made in smaller quantities than car tyres and to much higher technical specifications. thats why they cost more.