Another sad story, my heart goes out to the friends and family. This story could be replaced with any activity that people seem to think takes priority over actually paying attention to the road.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1558715,painting-nails-driver-fatal-crash-050509.article (http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1558715,painting-nails-driver-fatal-crash-050509.article)
Man, this really gets me heated. How in the make the beast with two backs could a 46 yo woman think it is a good idea to paint her finger nails while driving. I hope she goes to prison for a long time.
Hey, she wasn't talking on the cell phone. Goes back to what the real issue is, people not even trying to pay attention or using common sense.
RIP, Anita. Condolences to those who were close to Anita.
disgusting.
i haven't been riding very long... but it only took about 1 year of riding a motorcycle to completely change most (not speeding, yet...) of my driving habits...
I rarely even answer my phone while driving now, let alone doing something as idiotic as painting my nails.
I can't count the people i see every morning reading a newspaper while driving 50+mph on the parkway on the way to work, or doing makeup in the visor mirror... People are just morons.
RIP. I hope the pregnant dog rots in jail. WITHOUT nail polish.
Speechless..
Saw someone this morning paying bills - literally writing out checks on the steering wheel and stuffing the envelopes - while driving. We were in a bit of stop-and-go traffic, but c'mon people...
i won't get started on this.
but sad to say but the woman will probably get probation and pay something like a 100$ fine, no jail time.
the thing i have noticed is that you can kill someone so long as you use a car and the otehr person is on a bicycle or motorcycle and you can get away relatively scott free.. reason = juries identify with drivers not motorcyclists or cyclists. as far as they are concerned we shouldnt' even be on the same road.
that person taht was killed was someone's mother or child.. do you really think jail time will actually "teach a person" a lesson? i don't. its sad, but hopefully what goes around, goes around. that is all i'll say. [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Not even gonna get started on this one!! >:(
Hope they throw the book at the nail-painting idiot. [thumbsup]
RIP Anita.
This is one of those areas when the punishment needs to exceed the crime.
I want a punishment so severe that people drive around in mortal terror of killing someone.
As they should
I wish driving while brainless weren't so common. My ex-wife, an otherwise bright and dear person, would adjust the radio, dig through her purse, apply makeup, light and smoke cigarettes, and THEN worry about driving - all the while on Valium. I used to tell her even if I didn't care for her, with I did, I was worried about the station wagon will of kids she might kill.
If one caused a fatality like this 46 year old woman did while under the influence of even a small amount of alcohol, they would do serious jail time. I don't see the difference. It's disregard for the life and limb of others either way :'(
LA
That was a sad story.
RIP.
How can the punishment exceed the crime? She killed someone plain and simple. IMO she should be charged with negligent homicide.
Quote from: corey on May 06, 2009, 05:57:27 AM
RIP. I hope the pregnant dog rots in jail. WITHOUT nail polish. lube
Fixed [thumbsup]
The problem is bigger than what action is taken against this person. As LA pointed out, if alcohol or drugs were involved, she would be in trouble big time, even if it was not the cause of the accident and that public sympathy is not with you when you are on two wheels. Until there is public awareness the problem will not go away. Motorcycle safety funding needs to go towards public awareness, not "safety checkpoints" where tickets are given for infractions like loud pipes.
RIP, Anita.... :'(
RIP Anita.
Man, this steams me... just speechless (aside from some fuming swear words)
Quote from: NAKID on May 06, 2009, 09:04:16 AM
How can the punishment exceed the crime? She killed someone plain and simple. IMO she should be charged with negligent homicide.
i think a better way to put it would be a punishment that is fitting to the crime. jail time wont do anything in this case. its much better make her promote safe driving for 10 years. This way, she deals with the issue first hand everyday, and educates others on safe driving.
regardless, i hate to admit it, but people dont care about motorcycles if a family were killed on a bike though, maybe a slight outrage would occur. lets say a mom dad and a son riding together. but even then, people automactically assume, since we are on bikes we deserve it since we could of been in a car. the truth is, the car should of been paying attention.
Quote from: howie on May 06, 2009, 09:22:37 AM
Until there is public awareness the problem will not go away. Motorcycle safety funding needs to go towards public awareness, not "safety checkpoints" where tickets are given for infractions like loud pipes.
+1 [thumbsup]
RIP Anita.(http://www.motohouston.com/forums/images/smilies/angry7.gif)
That's F'd up. >:(
I've been in situations where while stopped at a red light, drivers slam on their brakes at the last minute. SCREEEEECHH!! Not a fun feeling. I make it a habit to leave my bike in gear with the clutch pulled and stay vigilant on my mirror, making sure I see the driver slow and come to a stop. Hopefully I'll avoid being hit by behind like Anita.
This is just total crap. This really should be tried as negligant homicide.
Quote from: A.duc.H.duc. on May 06, 2009, 10:48:15 AM
This is just total crap. This really should be tried as negligant homicide.
if you drive drunk and kill someone is it negligent homicide?
if it is then that is what she should get at the min.
its pathetic how many people do not realize that a car is a potentially lethal 3000 lb weapon that can kill or main many people in a fraction of a second, no different than shooting them with a 45 gun.
This is an example of such groteque negligence and disregard for her and others safety it's maddening! At the very least this woman should never be allowed behind the wheel again and probably jail for life would be appropriate because she needs to be removed from interacting with civalized society before she can have the opportunity to harm someone else. It would be good to sterilize her also so hopefully she can't breed any more stupid people.
Sad and angering.
Quote from: Special K on May 06, 2009, 12:59:00 PM
This is an example of such groteque negligence and disregard for her and others safety it's maddening! At the very least this woman should never be allowed behind the wheel again and probably jail for life would be appropriate because she needs to be removed from interacting with civalized society before she can have the opportunity to harm someone else. It would be good to sterilize her also so hopefully she can't breed any more stupid people.
Sad and angering.
+1
Problem is, this happens way toooo often. Todays society breads these types of "crashes" (This was no accident). Many states are trying to establish no hand held cell phone activity. but that will not stop people from just not paying attention. Its all about me, who cares about everyone else. Until we start the "Eye for an eye" punishment system, there are not consequences for our actions. If you kill someone and "they" call it an accident, you pretty much just get a slap on the wrist. I pray that Anita is in a better place RIP and may the broad who slauthered her recieve the punishment she deserves.
I can't even type what I think about this sort of thing. Suffice it to say, I'm sad and angry.
:-[
I wish the bike was a garbage truck or a pole--that's always the best lesson learned for a driver not paying attention.
So sad
RIP Anita. :'( >:(
Kind of like the girl I rode past the other day....READING A BOOK while she was driving. [roll]
Reading books, putting on nail polish, putting on make-up, on their cell phone from the time they get in the driver seat to the time they get out of their vehicle, speeding with children in their vehicle.......and they(insurance companies) say women are safer drivers than men.
Nah, male police officers are just more likely to give a ticket to a male driver, but let a female driver go which gives insurance companies and driver reports the false impression that men are worse drivers as there are more tickets given to men.
Quote from: Pedro-bot on May 06, 2009, 10:47:55 AM
RIP Anita.(http://www.motohouston.com/forums/images/smilies/angry7.gif)
That's F'd up. >:(
I've been in situations where while stopped at a red light, drivers slam on their brakes at the last minute. SCREEEEECHH!! Not a fun feeling. I make it a habit to leave my bike in gear with the clutch pulled and stay vigilant on my mirror, making sure I see the driver slow and come to a stop. Hopefully I'll avoid being hit by behind like Anita.
+1
Let's not let Anita's death pass without learning something from it. Watch your mirrors closely and leave it in gear at intersections! One of the better tips I picked up from the MSF course. It may save your life...
RIP :'(
Quote from: Duki09 on May 07, 2009, 09:26:16 AM
Kind of like the girl I rode past the other day....READING A BOOK while she was driving. [roll]
Reading books, putting on nail polish, putting on make-up, on their cell phone from the time they get in the driver seat to the time they get out of their vehicle, speeding with children in their vehicle.......and they(insurance companies) say women are safer drivers than men.
Nah, male police officers are just more likely to give a ticket to a male driver, but let a female driver go which gives insurance companies and driver reports the false impression that men are worse drivers as there are more tickets given to men.
plenty of bad drivers from both sides of the fence. Let's not women bash.
Anyone who doen't pay attention is risking everyone elses' life.
I'd like to see license suspension for at least 5 years, public speaking engagements where she has to tell and re-tell of her stupidity, and the price it cost, & more (but not sure jail time would change the habit). Maybe give her earnings to Anita's family for x number of years. to help with the additional costs as well as loss of income.
+1, RIP Anita.
:'(
a great reminder to pay attention while waiting at traffic lights gang...
i agree that action needs to be taken to educate people about the dangers of doing other things while driving >:(
Quote from: lauramonster on May 07, 2009, 10:55:24 AM
plenty of bad drivers from both sides of the fence. Let's not women bash.
Anyone who doen't pay attention is risking everyone elses' life.
Wasn't trying to bash women and I agree that there are probably both equally bad male and female drivers.
I was bashing the national statistics which use insurance claims and amount of tickets issued in order to say who are better drivers.
A women painting her fingernails while driving may not be technically breaking any rules of the road and may not be ticketed compared to a man who is breaking the law while speeding, but that women is much more dangerous to others compared to that speeding male driver who is at least keeping his eyes on the road and on traffic signs/lights.
Quote from: Duki09 on May 07, 2009, 02:05:04 PM
Wasn't trying to bash women and I agree that there are probably both equally bad male and female drivers.
I was bashing the national statistics which use insurance claims and amount of tickets issued in order to say who are better drivers.
A women painting her fingernails while driving may not be technically breaking any rules of the road and may not be ticketed compared to a man who is breaking the law while speeding, but that women is much more dangerous to others compared to that speeding male driver who is at least keeping his eyes on the road and on traffic signs/lights.
That's a bit assumptive, no? What makes you think he's paying attention at all? Idiot drivers are idiot drivers, regardless of any other circumstances.
I have seen a man lathering up and shaving with a straight razor while driving. :o
I've been rear-ended in a car 4 times by men and once by a woman. Just luck of the draw. :-\
Quote from: somegirl on May 07, 2009, 09:51:06 PM
I've been rear-ended in a car 4 times by men and once by a woman. Just luck of the draw. :-\
An SUV would've given ya'll a lot more room.
Quote from: MrIncredible on May 07, 2009, 09:54:09 PM
An SUV would've given ya'll a lot more room.
;D That's pretty bad. Just sayin'
I was behind a woman texting on her phone today. I pointed at her car and held my hand up to my helmet like a phone to give a fair warning to the people around me. She just waved at me and kept doing it. At least she saw me? ???
what a waste.
Quote from: Holden on May 08, 2009, 03:18:26 AM
I was behind a woman texting on her phone today. I pointed at her car and held my hand up to my helmet like a phone to give a fair warning to the people around me. She just waved at me and kept doing it. At least she saw me? ???
She thinks you made a "call me" gesture [laugh]
Quote from: Sleeper_I on May 08, 2009, 11:03:49 AM
She thinks you made a "call me" gesture [laugh]
priceless [laugh]
that's when I should have scrawled the mirror image of my number in the dust on her back window.
Absolutely terrifying. I was in Chicago land, on that road, on that day, visiting friends. I drive a lot for work as does my buddy who lives in the northwest suburbs, and he always regails me of the shitty driving situations he encounters, but you can't really relate until you're on the bike in the middle of that shit. All my best to her family.
Quote from: lauramonster on May 07, 2009, 10:55:24 AM
plenty of bad drivers from both sides of the fence. Let's not women bash.
Anyone who doen't pay attention is risking everyone elses' life.
I'd like to see license suspension for at least 5 years, public speaking engagements where she has to tell and re-tell of her stupidity, and the price it cost, & more (but not sure jail time would change the habit). Maybe give her earnings to Anita's family for x number of years. to help with the additional costs as well as loss of income.
+1, RIP Anita.
I love this idea! Make people accountable! Usually hitting where it hurts (like loss of income) will make people think twice, maybe three times when they get in their car's!!!