Wired has a nice write up on the new BMW S 1000 RR. The video is kind of cool too.
Some telling statistics:
BMW S 1000 RR: 193 horsepower, 455 pounds.
Yamaha R1: 180 hp, 454 pounds.
Ducati 1098 R: 180 hp, 364 pounds [thumbsup]
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/05/bmw_s_1000rr/ (http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/05/bmw_s_1000rr/)
BMW S 1000 RR motorcycle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcbkejcEWrQ&feature=player_embedded#ws-lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
pretty slick video
nice bike too
WOW, the germans copied the japanese. [roll]
Let's see the price tag............
Yaaaaaaawn...another sportbike. [roll] ;D
it makes my heart go bumpety bump.
i freakin' LOVE the looks. even the mismatched headlights. the turnsignals dosn low on the fairings. the black grippy stuff instead of paint everywhere. first stock exhaust i'd leave on. rear taillight blew my mind.
doesn't look like a bmw. it's not ugly. doesn't look 'functional'.
it's hot!!
[beer] to the designers/builders
I'll take the 1098 please.
Ehhhh....
the Germans don't play around.
bike is siiiiccck.
looks like it even puts the desmosedici to shame :o
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on May 12, 2009, 06:26:01 PM
the Germans don't play around.
bike is siiiiccck.
looks like it even puts the desmosedici to shame :o
How? It says it has similar power to weight ratio as the 1098R which has 20hp LESS than the D16...
Looks like a cool alternative for those who like screaming motors in their sportbikes. I still prefer thundering ones and to me the motor is such a dominant factor in what a bike is like to ride. stat sheets do nothing for me.
Nice to see bmw branching out though and I hope their wsb team continues after one season.
Quote from: NAKID on May 12, 2009, 07:28:45 PM
How? It says it has similar power to weight ratio as the 1098R which has 20hp LESS than the D16...
The 1098R is 364 lbs
dry. BMW is quoting the S1000RR at 455 lbs
wet.
Quote from: bluemoco on May 12, 2009, 09:58:42 PM
The 1098R is 364 lbs dry. BMW is quoting the S1000RR at 455 lbs wet.
Well, what is the 1098R wet?
I'm sure it's a great bike...or will be shortly...but it's fugly. :-\
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on May 12, 2009, 06:26:01 PM
the Germans don't play around.
bike is siiiiccck.
looks like it even puts the desmosedici to shame :o
It's getting beat handily in WSBK right now, with very capable riders. The also brand new Aprilia is much more competitive. This probably won't last, but time will tell.
Quote from: NAKID on May 12, 2009, 07:28:45 PM
How? It says it has similar power to weight ratio as the 1098R which has 20hp LESS than the D16...
75,000 - 14,000 = $61,000 left over
bike has traction control and more horsepower and the germans made it so it wont break
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on May 12, 2009, 10:04:49 PM
75,000 - 14,000 = $61,000 left over
bike has traction control and more horsepower and the germans made it so it wont break
I don't think the 1098R is 75k.
From BMW's website:
Dry weight of 404 lb. 450lb wet with full tank, 455.3 wet with full tank and ABS
So, the 1098R has a better power to weight ratio...but not by much, and it is rumored to be $14K vs $40K of the 1098R.
The D16RR surely stomps it, as it should be way lighter. It's $72K though.
Quote from: kopfjager on May 12, 2009, 10:07:25 PM
I don't think the 1098R is 75k.
A 1098R generally runs @ $40k apiece. Still much more $$ than BMW is asking for the S1000RR.
As far as the weight question, I can't locate a 'wet' weight for a 1098R, but a good benchmark would be the Honda CBR1000RR ABS which weighs 462 lbs wet.
Quote from: Triple J on May 12, 2009, 10:04:10 PM
I'm sure it's a great bike...or will be shortly...but it's fugly. :-\
It's getting beat handily in WSBK right now, with very capable riders. The also brand new Aprilia is much more competitive. This probably won't last, but time will tell.
from what i've heard, the priller has been under development for much, much longer than the bmw.
Just another inline 4 sportsbike [bang]
Quote from: bluemoco on May 12, 2009, 09:58:42 PM
The 1098R is 364 lbs dry. BMW is quoting the S1000RR at 455 lbs wet.
Quote from: kopfjager on May 12, 2009, 10:00:34 PM
Well, what is the 1098R wet?
The 1098R is 412 wet with 180hp. The BMW is 455 wet with 193. Power to weight for the Duc is 2.28 lbs per hp, the BMW is 2.35 lbs per hp...
The D16 is no lightweight in customer trim.
There was one on the scales at NHMS...
over 470 lbs...damp
The Duc vs Beemer question is about nothing but bragging rights - they all make way too much power for me to ever use.
But as far as that vaunted German reliability, Beck, it just hasn't been the case in recent years, for bikes or cars.
i'll talk a crossplane crank R1 over one of these. better tech and cheaper. and sounds more like a motogp bike.
Quote from: Ash on May 13, 2009, 06:25:08 AM
i'll talk a crossplane crank R1 over one of these. better tech and cheaper. and sounds more like a motogp bike.
+1
Actually, I'd get the CBR1000RR since I think it looks the best of all the non-Ducs...and is very close to the 1098 in looks. Any of them have way too much power for me to use, and handle great.
who am I kidding I should just buy a vespa and start a VMF board
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on May 13, 2009, 10:44:14 AM
who am I kidding I should just buy a vespa and start a VMF board
nah. Take a track course with your bike while you still have such a great trackbike. I guarantee it will be more fun than you had with your car...and I know you loved that. This will be better. truuuust us.
Quote from: Statler on May 13, 2009, 11:23:05 AM
nah. Take a track course with your bike while you still have such a great trackbike. I guarantee it will be more fun than you had with your car...and I know you loved that. This will be better. truuuust us.
yea I have some NESBA dates that I will try and get to for sure this year, hopefully the total control will help as well.