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Event Schedule

(all times left coast time)

Saturday, 30 May 2009
125 FP2   00:00 - 00:40
MotoGP FP2   00:55 - 01:55
250 FP2   02:10 - 03:10
125 QP   04:00 - 04:40
MotoGP QP   04:55 - 05:55
250 QP   06:10 - 06:55

Sunday, 31 May 2009
125 WUP   Sat-23:40 - Sun-00:00
250 WUP   00:10 - 00:30
MotoGP WUP   00:40 - 01:00
125 RAC   02:00
250 RAC   03:15
MotoGP RAC   05:00

in the words of Rossi from long ago...." I no think I win...so....I WIN! "...LOL

FP1 Results:

1 99 Jorge LORENZO SPA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 1'49.870 342.422
2 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 1'50.065 344.277 0.195
3 27 Casey STONER AUS Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 1'50.144 340.586 0.274
4 3 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 1'50.808 349.288 0.938
5 5 Colin EDWARDS USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 1'50.891 338.983 1.021
6 15 Alex DE ANGELIS RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1'50.898 340.479 1.028
7 65 Loris CAPIROSSI ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 1'51.007 339.836 1.137
8 14 Randy DE PUNIET FRA LCR Honda MotoGP Honda 1'51.030 337.605 1.160
9 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Repsol Honda Team Honda 1'51.206 341.124 1.336
10 33 Marco MELANDRI ITA Hayate Racing Team Kawasaki 1'51.359 342.205 1.489
11 52 James TOSELAND GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 1'51.401 329.167 1.531
12 24 Toni ELIAS SPA San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1'51.823 335.612 1.953
13 7 Chris VERMEULEN AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 1'51.994 335.507 2.124
14 88 Niccolo CANEPA ITA Pramac Racing Ducati 1'52.319 343.402 2.449
15 69 Nicky HAYDEN USA Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 1'52.403 341.555 2.533
16 72 Yuki TAKAHASHI JPN Scot Racing Team MotoGP Honda 1'52.607 337.078 2.737
17 36 Mika KALLIO FIN Pramac Racing Ducati 1'52.619 348.050 2.749

It doesn't look like having Bayliss testing the bike has done a whole lot to help the general Ducati teams situation has it?  :P

Nicky, 2.6 seconds off the lead?  :'(

Bayliss was faster than the three backmarker Ducatis and hadn't ridden in a good while. 

Stoner rode both the carbon fiber swingarm and the old aluminum swingarm with similar lap times this morning to help further develop the carbon fiber arm.

Pedrosa set the new top speed record at Mugello, 217mph... 349khp.  I think only about 4kph short of the 990 overall speed record ( not at mugello ).

Lorenzo was impressive this morning and Rossi was laying down lots of consistant 1:50's. 

Hayden is complaining about how the bike is unstable in cornering and just the general unstable nature of the bike to begin with.  I'm writing him off I think.  May he prove me wrong, but RIP Nicky.

Definately was worth waking up early to watch it.  Good start to my day!   [thumbsup]

The Ducati GP 09 is a pile of SHITE, how can four of the five bikes be at the back of the field? this has got to be the biggest slap in the face to Ducati considering this is there home track. F#@k i think Hayden should get away from Ducati asap.Lucky Sete cant ride this weekend
Don

+1

Stoner is just an anomaly with the odd skill set that allows him to ride that motorcycle.  The bike is crap though.  I'm not buying into the whole "oh it will take some time to come to grips with the Ducati."  I call bs.  Seems to me that the riders can toss a leg over any of the other manufacturers machines and immediately be somewhat competitive.  Maybe not front run, but immediately up to speed.  Every bike has its nuances, but the Ducati simply has problems, not nuances.  Yeah Hayden was a dirttracker and likes to slide around a bike.  An unstable bike isn't much fun to slide around.  So another round of applause for Stoner and his freak skills, but another rib poke at the junk underneath him.  When a non developed privateer Kawasaki beats you week in and week out, you're not in good shape.

Will Hayden try to escape, magically find the skills, or rot in his contract for the next two years?

http://www.crash.net/MotoGP/News/147569/1/stoner_experiments_with_swingarm_ducatis_front_and_back.html (http://www.crash.net/MotoGP/News/147569/1/stoner_experiments_with_swingarm_ducatis_front_and_back.html)

“This is a very different circuit to Le Mans and to be honest I was hoping that coming here, to the track where this bike was born, we would be on the pace,” confessed Nicky. “Unfortunately we're not and the truth is we're struggling again - it's pretty demoralising because every track we go to at the moment seems to cause us different kinds of problems. Here the worst thing is the bumpiness of the surface, which is unsettling a bike that can already be quite unstable. It is hard to change direction when the bike isn't planted and that's a big thing here.”

i honestly think they'll end up developing the bike for more universal use.

the fact that bayliss was >1s over stoner's time and he was trying to use settings that were, uh, not what stoner uses is a pretty good indication that, at some level, they've decided they might have an issue.

So would it stand to reason that Stoner's settings are completely out of whack to what any other rider would probably choose?  Maybe that is part of the problem in itself.  Its possible that his test data is of absolutely no use to any other rider, since they can't ride like him, and since they can't do that, it just makes a difficult motorcycle even worse for everyone else?

MotoGP Qualifying Practice

Pos. Num. Rider Nation Team Motorcycle Lap time Km/h Gap

1   99   Jorge LORENZO SPA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 1'48.987 338.983 
2   27   Casey STONER AUS Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 1'49.008 336.868 0.021
3   65   Loris CAPIROSSI ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 1'49.121 331.491 0.134
4   46   Valentino ROSSI ITA Fiat Yamaha Team Yamaha 1'49.148 336.763 0.161
5   14   Randy DE PUNIET FRA LCR Honda MotoGP Honda 1'49.499 327.371 0.512
6   5   Colin EDWARDS USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 1'49.547 337.500 0.560
7   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO ITA Repsol Honda Team Honda 1'49.648 332.001 0.661
8   3   Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 1'50.073 334.779 1.086
9   24   Toni ELIAS SPA San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1'50.078 338.134 1.091
10   72   Yuki TAKAHASHI JPN Scot Racing Team MotoGP Honda 1'50.305 332.205 1.318
11   7   Chris VERMEULEN AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP Suzuki 1'50.405 321.237 1.418
12   15   Alex DE ANGELIS RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1'50.448 336.553 1.461
13   88   Niccolo CANEPA ITA Pramac Racing Ducati 1'50.528 339.836 1.541
14   52   James TOSELAND GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 Yamaha 1'50.537 327.570 1.550
15   33   Marco MELANDRI ITA Hayate Racing Team Kawasaki 1'50.710 339.409 1.723
16   69   Nicky HAYDEN USA Ducati Marlboro Team Ducati 1'50.924 333.539 1.937
17   36   Mika KALLIO FIN Pramac Racing Ducati 1'51.008 341.988 2.021

Gonna be a good race tomorrow.   [thumbsup]

What will Rossi do if Jorge plants his Lorenzo land flag.   ???   My money is still on the Doctor.

Not accidental at all!

Edwards:
"I never plan on going out and following anybody but right at the start of the session Valentino (Rossi) was right in front of me and he had no problem with me following. So taking into account he's the Mugello expert I got in behind him to see if I could learn something and I picked up a couple of tricks. In a couple of places like the chicanes he hits the apex later at the first part to get a better drive out of the second part. I was more sweeping through them without getting a really good drive, so that helped me a bit."

another wet race

stoner, lorenzo, rossi...

i'm heading to miller for worldsbk... i'll catch you guys later.  ;D

Good race!   [thumbsup]  That was a fun one to watch.  Man Pedro has some bad luck.

exciting stuff indeed... wet to dry again

some other highlights...

lorenzo crashes during sighting lap  :o
he switches bikes and makes his spot on the grid, but has the worst start ever.

dani crashes out, and does not get up... he is fragile these days  :-\

felt really bad for dani.  that guy is getting his miniature ass kicked.

wet-dry, not the recipe for rossi's 8th straight mugello.. ah well.  great race tho.  nice to see colin get jt at the end.   [evil]

all i could really think is what a friggin waste of money the mole is when suzuki could have had spies.  dumbasses.  same goes for scot.  yuki is not exactly setting the world on fire... or finishing races, for that matter.

Did anyone catch the nuttiness of the 250 race ?? :o  VERY ENTERTAINING!!! [clap]

omg hell yes!!!!  [thumbsup] [clap]

Every time I think about Bens' success in SBK I picture in my mind some guy at Suzuki being made to walk up and down the hall...

kicking himself in the ass. ;D

didn't wake up early enough  :(  I'll have to catch the video later this week.

The lady and I went to the No Doubt concert last night, so was too beat to wake up at 5 in the morning to catch the other races.

YA!!!   

DUCATI WINS AT MUGELLO

I'm so happy.

I do start to feel badly for poor Dani P. He's got it rough these days.
Capi on the podium would have been so sweet. What a race!

pink bikes rock

The 250 race was unbelievable!!! It was great to watch it go back and forth!

I like these wet to dry races as the whole bike switching aspect makes fior some great racing and strategy...

and yet, for some goofy reason, people seem to hate f1...

Probably because all the action is pit stops and strategy, with very little racing.
Exageration, of course, but you get my drift...

Rossi had a *long* conversation with a couple of the crew in parc ferme, interesting.

I can't imagine why anyone went out on the hard tires.
I recall some mutterings about the soft tires being slower in practice, but on a barely dry track?

Man, for the first time in a long time, I was happy to watch both WSBK and MotoGP.  Still, I could do with a dry race.   Is Casey now a Ducati wrench?  I swear he spend more time wrenching on that bike on the straightaways than he does racing it -- the damper, the clutch, the video camera, blah blah blah.  Don't be surprised if next race he gets alongside it at 200mph and checks the tire pressures before Turn 1.

The 250 races was awesome.  I didn't think Simoncelli was so out of line when I first saw it.  But upon replay, that was a stooopid attempt at a pass.  With the line he took, he was gonna hit him no matter what.  He didn't steal the apex as much as he just aimed for Bautista. 

Works with deer. ;D

 [thumbsup]

http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj219/Putz37/GP/?action=view&current=2fitty.flv (http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj219/Putz37/GP/?action=view&current=2fitty.flv)

GP, 13 laps to go.
Everyone has changed tires.


It's :

Melandri
Dovizioso
Valentino
J. Lorenzo
Stoner
Capirossi

Stoner blows through Vale and Lorenzo -
3 positions to take 3rd, then 2nd...

Do they show it on MOTOGP site? No why would they? There was an insignificant crash.  [bang]

Anyone see those passes on other broadcasts?

The fekking historic pass of Rossi on the Mugello circuit for Ducati to take it's first win on it's home turf and it's NOT ON FILM?!  [bang]

Sorry we missed ya. The Supersport race was awesome...