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Title: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: corey on June 01, 2009, 11:47:35 AM
I have a big ride coming up, nothing TOO extravagent... No more than 750 miles in the weekend...
Do I need new tires?
I'm rolling on stock BattleAxes, BT014... 4700 miles on them total. Zero burnouts, etc...
Rear Pictures:
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Front Pictures:
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Excuse the chicken strips... Not much room for me to get horizontal round these parts...
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: Spidey on June 01, 2009, 11:50:19 AM
Yes.  I'm not sure you have 750 miles left in that rear.  It's amazing how quick a rear goes from no grooves showing to cords showing.
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: corey on June 01, 2009, 12:13:52 PM
Damn.
There goes my DP seat for the trip :/

Oh well, thanks for being blunt and clear.
Pilot Powers on the way...
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: He Man on June 01, 2009, 12:47:13 PM
from the looks of it, you might benefit more from Pilot road 2cts. youll defintely feel a big difference between your current tires, and powers or road2cts.
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: corey on June 01, 2009, 12:49:56 PM
Yea it's a tossup right now between the Powers and the Road2CT's...
I know they would be worth it, but it's going to come down to cashflow this weekend, and what i feel like spending....
The cost increase on the road2's is significant...
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: Speeddog on June 01, 2009, 01:04:17 PM
Quote from: Spidey on June 01, 2009, 11:50:19 AM
Yes.  I'm not sure you have 750 miles left in that rear.  It's amazing how quick a rear goes from no grooves showing to cords showing.

+1, I'd say odds are good you'd have fur showing before 750 more on that rear.

I'd say go for the regular Pilot Roads, they're slightly cheaper than the Powers.
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: corey on June 01, 2009, 01:36:25 PM
Quick side note. Anyone know off hand what material my S2R800 marchesini wheels are made out of?
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: herm on June 01, 2009, 01:52:38 PM
Quote from: corey on June 01, 2009, 12:49:56 PM
Yea it's a tossup right now between the Powers and the Road2CT's...
I know they would be worth it, but it's going to come down to cashflow this weekend, and what i feel like spending....
The cost increase on the road2's is significant...

true, but you could end up putting two sets of powers on to one set of the road 2ct's..........
if there is any way you can afford it, get the 2ct's
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: CairnsDuc on June 01, 2009, 01:53:48 PM
Corey: Aluminum

If you do a lot of straight line work, the BT 021 Sports Touring tyre from Bridgestone is also a great Tyre, Side grip is very good, but the Centre is very hard and should give much longer wearing then the OEM tyres
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: stopintime on June 01, 2009, 02:39:05 PM
My rear looked like that and I wasn't even close to getting another 750 miles before I saw cord.
The scary and educational experience was feeling the tire once it was off - extremely thin  :o  One sharp rock would blow it right up. I'm not doing that again. Besides, you'll have so much more fun on a new tire [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: corey on June 05, 2009, 09:47:40 AM
well... i'm splurging on a set of Pilot Road 2's...
I'll post up my reactions.
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: EEL on June 05, 2009, 10:37:49 AM
BT-21's are cheaper and comparable in longevity. Might want to look in those too..
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: VisceralReaction on June 05, 2009, 11:09:41 AM
I have another vote for the BT-21
I have just over 10000 on my rear and will probably get another 1000 miles before they are shot.
I am getting another set of these for sure.
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: corey on June 05, 2009, 01:06:57 PM
i'll keep the bt-021's in mind.. honestly though i'm just trying the michelins for a change of pace. all i've ridden on is the bridgestones, i'd like to experience a few different brands before i start getting TOO loyal ;D
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: VisceralReaction on June 05, 2009, 02:52:21 PM
Hey don't get me wrong, Michelins rock, hands down. I've used them and was very happy with them.
But for the cost difference and better mileage the BT21s are great too.
Good grip and a nice profile makes them pretty neutral in cornering.
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: w7ck7d on June 05, 2009, 05:45:23 PM
Which is better pilot power or pilot power 2ct? for trackdays and street riding?
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: AndrewNS on June 05, 2009, 05:55:44 PM
I just swapped a rear power for a new power 2ct...my first impression is that they seem pretty much the same to me, feel-wise. I haven't ridden it very much, though. I'd be curious to know if the 2ct's actually longer enough to justify the slightly higher price, if someone out there knows. I really don't believe a whole lot of this marketing stuff.  [drink] 
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: He Man on June 06, 2009, 03:17:53 AM
the power 2ct isnt longer life, its just softer edges. the pilot road 2ct is longer life with pilot pwoer equivalent edges. I rode my first set of powers to death and loved it. but it just wanst up to city commuting. way to soft, especially on the torquey S2R1000 and the way i gun it at the lights. so i swaped to pilot road 2cts (read ROAD 2CT). it feels just as good as the regular powers, and with ~1,500 miles on the odo, it has only lost about 1mm of rubber, if that. im expecting the life time to be around ~10,000 from the way i ride. its not as sharp as the pilot powers though, but the drop in is still very predictable.
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: Howie on June 06, 2009, 03:45:11 AM
As He Man said, the 2CTs are not designed for more mileage than the regular Pilot Power.  You might find, depending on your local roads and your style of riding they may not square off as quickly.
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: w7ck7d on June 06, 2009, 07:05:46 AM
I dont use my bike for commute.Mostly canyon rides and will be hitting the track soon so regular pilot power is the way to go [thumbsp]
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: AndrewNS on June 06, 2009, 01:23:12 PM
Hmmm...I thought the centers of the power 2ct's were the supposed to be a little harder than the original powers, with the object being to give you better mileage before they wear out. I had just assumed the sides were pretty much the same as a standard power. But you're telling me the centers are the same but the sides are softer? That's still OK, just not what I expected.

Oh well, live and learn.   
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: greenmonster on June 06, 2009, 06:10:40 PM
QuoteIt's amazing how quick a rear goes from no grooves showing to cords showing.

+1.
But normally you can ride up to 100 km`s on the cord. ;)
Not proud of it but I had to it last summer. Sometimes you just want to get home.
Could be good to know on desperate occasions...
Those rubbers were Metzeler Road Z6.
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: corndog67 on June 06, 2009, 07:06:02 PM
There is no "safe" mileage that you can ride on the cords.  The material of the rubber changes before you get to the cord, it's different from the tread compound, and that stuff goes quick.   I really, really try to not get to the cords. 
Title: Re: Do I NEED new tires?
Post by: greenmonster on June 07, 2009, 03:44:27 PM
My lesson learned fr above is:
Check at least 4 spots on tire!
One spot looked worn but OK, 2 hours later I was on the cord on half the tire! :P