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Event Schedule Misano
TIMING (GMT+2)

Friday         
08.30-10.00   90'   SUPERSTOCK 600 / 1000 TECHNICAL/SPORTING CHECKS
10.00-12.00   120'   WSBK / WSS TECHNICAL/SPORTING CHECKS
12.45-13.45   60'   WSBK   FREE PRACTICE
14.00-14.45   45'   SUPERSTOCK 1000 FREE PRACTICE
15.00-16.00   60'   W SUPERSPORT   FREE PRACTICE
16.15-17.15   60'   WSBK QUALIFYING PRACTICE
17.30-18.00   30'   SUPERSTOCK 600   FREE PRACTICE

Saturday         
09.00-09.30   30'   SUPERSTOCK 1000   FREE PRACTICE
09.45-10.30   45'   W SUPERSPORT   FREE PRACTICE
10.45-11.30   45'   WSBK   QUALIFYING PRACTICE
11.45-12.15   30'   SUPERSTOCK 600 FREE PRACTICE
12.25-12.50   25'   PIT WALK   PIT WALK
13.00-13.45   45'   W SUPERSPORT   QUALIFYING PRACTICE
14.00-14.45   45'   WSBK   FREE PRACTICE
15.00-15.12   12'   WSBK   SUPERPOLE (1)
15.19-15.31   12'   WSBK   SUPERPOLE (2)
15.38-15.50   12'   WSBK   SUPERPOLE (3)
16.10-16.40   30'   SUPERSTOCK 1000 QUALIFYING PRACTICE
16.55-17.25   30'   SUPERSTOCK 600    QUALIFYING PRACTICE

Sunday         
09.00-09.10   10'   SUPERSTOCK 1000   WARM UP
09.20-09.40   20'   WSBK   WARM UP
09.50-10.10   20'   W SUPERSPORT WARM UP
10.40   SUPERSTOCK 1000 RACE (14 LAPS KM. 59.164)
11.10-11.30   20'   PIT WALK   PIT WALK
12.00      WSBK   RACE 1 (24 LAPS KM. 101.424)
13.25      W SUPERSPORT   RACE (22 LAPS KM. 92.972)
14.30      SUPERSTOCK 600   RACE (10 LAPS KM. 42.260)
15.30      WSBK   RACE 2 (24 LAPS KM. 101.424)

This should be good...

http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=36997 (http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=36997)

WSBK Free Practice 1st Session:

1 19 Spies B. (USA) Yamaha YZF R1 1'38.049
2 84 Fabrizio M. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 1'38.154
3 65 Rea J. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 1'38.591
4 36 Lavilla G. (ESP) Ducati 1098R 1'38.616
5 9 Kiyonari R. (JPN) Honda CBR1000RR 1'38.645
6 41 Haga N. (JPN) Ducati 1098R 1'38.746
7 7 Checa C. (ESP) Honda CBR1000RR 1'38.750
8 91 Haslam L. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 1'38.935
9 3 Biaggi M. (ITA) Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'39.043
10 56 Nakano S. (JPN) Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'39.047
11 11 Corser T. (AUS) BMW S1000 RR 1'39.095
12 10 Nieto F. (ESP) Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 1'39.154
13 96 Smrz J. (CZE) Ducati 1098R 1'39.155
14 67 Byrne S. (GBR) Ducati 1098R 1'39.165
15 57 Lanzi L. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 1'39.181
16 71 Kagayama Y. (JPN) Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 1'39.302
17 111 Xaus R. (ESP) BMW S1000 RR 1'39.590
18 23 Parkes B. (AUS) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'39.659
19 121 Hopkins J. (USA) Honda CBR1000RR 1'39.814
20 14 Lagrive M. (FRA) Honda CBR1000RR 1'39.863
21 66 Sykes T. (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 1'39.907
22 2 Hacking J. (USA) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'39.978
23 15 Baiocco M. (ITA) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'40.196
24 53 Polita A. (ITA) Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 1'40.297
25 99 Scassa L. (ITA) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'40.305
26 77 Iannuzzo V. (ITA) Honda CBR1000RR 1'40.385
27 94 Checa D. (ESP) Yamaha YZF R1 1'40.443
28 25 Salom D. (ESP) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'40.772
29 88 Resch R. (AUT) Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 1'42.365

...8 in a row anyone?

Faaaccck, mang.  That's wrong. 

I'll take Fabrizio for the upset on superpole just to make it interesting.

QUALI SPOILER ---



Spies is on the top of Q1 at 1.37.1 with 10 mins left.  Fabio is 3rd at 1.37.33

Damn! Spies is a bad ass (which I already knew). Geez...at least he seems to be serving as a kick in the ass to Fabrizio.

Next year in WSBK could easily be the Spies show if he stays.

looks like fabio took Q1 1:37.016 vs 1:37.102

broken-footed kagayama in third!?!

WSBK »

Misano - Qualifying times (1)

Full qualifying times (1) for the eighth round of the World Superbike Championship at Misano, San Marino.

1. Michel Fabrizio ITA Ducati Xerox 1098R 1min 37.016s
2. Ben Spies USA Yamaha WSB YZF R1 1min 37.102s
3. Yukio Kagayama JPN Alstare Suzuki GSX-R 1000K9 1min 37.209s
4. Jonathan Rea GBR HANNspree Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 37.238s
5. Broc Parkes AUS Kawasaki SRT ZX-0R 1min 37.281s
6. Ryuichi Kiyonari JPN Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 37.396s
7. Carlos Checa ESP HANNspree Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 37.441s
8. Noriyuki Haga JPN Ducati Xerox 1098R 1min 37.451s
9. Leon Haslam GBR Stiggy Motorsport Honda CBR1000RR 1min 37.490s
10. Troy Corser AUS BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 37.503s
11. Shinya Nakano JPN Aprilia Racing RSV-4 1min 37.630s
12. Lorenzo Lanzi ITA DFX Corse Ducati 1098R 1min 37.702s
13. Jakub Smrz CZE Guandalini Racing Ducati 1098R 1min 37.710s
14. Ruben Xaus ESP BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 37.773s
15. Gregorio Lavilla ESP Guandalini Racing Ducati 1098R 1min 37.786s
16. Max Biaggi ITA Aprilia Racing RSV-4 1min 37.813s
17. Shane Byrne GBR Sterilgarda Ducati 1098R 1min 37.898s
18. Fonsi Nieto ESP Alstare Suzuki GSX-R 1000K9 1min 37.979s
19. Tom Sykes GBR Yamaha WSB YZF R1 1min 37.992s
20. Jamie Hacking USA Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 1min 38.441s
21. David Salom ESP Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 38.522s
22. Matthieu Lagrive FRA HANNspree Althea Honda CBR1000RR 1min 38.671s
23. Luca Scassa ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 38.755s
24. Matteo Baiocco ITA PSG-1 Corse Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 38.827s
25. David Checa ESP Yamaha France GMT 94 1min 38.828s
26. Vittorio Iannuzzo ITA SCI Honda CBR1000RR 1min 39.067s
27. John Hopkins USA Stiggy Motorsport Honda CBR1000RR 1min 39.3008s
28. Alessandro Polita ITA Celani Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 39.639s
29. Roland Resch AUT TKR Switzerland Suzuki GSX-R 1000K9 1min 40.489s

Top 19 all within a second of each other.   Wow.

Can someone give me a link or explain to me again how Qualy works?  I understood it earlier this year and now I'm confused again.  I get Superpole (16-12-8).  But how does Q1 fit in?  Is it top 20 from Q1 for Q2?  Top 16 for Q2 to SP1?

yep.  :)

So Hacking *just* squeezed in.   [clap]

the 20 riders that go to superpole are the fastest 20 from the "regular" Qualifying sessions (Q1 and Q2). read: you could set a fast time in Q1, miss Q2 and still make superpole.

Ok, that's how I remember it.  Cuz Q2 is the full field, not just 20 people, right?

So Hacking still has work to do.   :-\

ok, so i saw top 20 and didn't read enough of the question.. =)

http://www.onthethrottle.com/content/view/196/1/ (http://www.onthethrottle.com/content/view/196/1/)

OTT skype convo with greene & martin.  lots of good info about the series, various bikes (incl. the "factory" R1), injuries, replacement riders esp hacking, etc..

thanks derb/wera.

btw, 60% chance of rain..

Total worth watching.   [thumbsup]  Thanks, gm2.

Even if SuperPole times are slower (due to rain), they still determine the grid, right?

yup...

well, the top 20 positions, anyway.  ;D

How well does Ben do in the rain?

how well does ben do everywhere?

...but yeah, he hasn't had much time in the rain on that bike yet.

about as much time as haga has had in the rain on the duc.  ;D

that said, does anybody remember how well ben goes in a hurricane?

http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/news/148601/1/q1_times_stand_as_rain_arrives_at_misano.html (http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/news/148601/1/q1_times_stand_as_rain_arrives_at_misano.html)

Superpole up next...

Superpole Results

1 96 Smrz J CZE Ducati 1098R
2 65 Rea J GBR Honda CBR1000RR
3 19 Spies B USA Yamaha YZF R1
4 84 Fabrizio M ITA Ducati 1098R
5 67 Byrne S GBR Ducati 1098R 
6 41 Haga N JPN Ducati 1098R
7 7 Checa C ESP Honda CBR1000RR
8 9 Kiyonari R JPN Honda CBR1000RR
9 3 Biaggi M ITA Aprilia RSV4 Factory 
10 91 Haslam L GBR Honda CBR1000RR 
11 10 Nieto F ESP Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 
12 56 Nakano S JPN Aprilia RSV4 Factory 
13 71 Kagayama Y JPN Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 
14 66 Sykes T GBR Yamaha YZF R1 
15 11 Corser T AUS BMW S1000 RR 
16 57 Lanzi L ITA Ducati 1098R
17 36 Lavilla G ESP Ducati 1098R     
18 111 Xaus R ESP BMW S1000 RR     
19 23 Parkes B AUS Kawasaki ZX 10R     
20 2 Hacking J USA Kawasaki ZX 10R

no one told me colin was back in wsbk!

(http://pix.crash.net/motorsport/710/PA607613.jpg)

Smrz seems to have yet again proven he is fast for one lap.

Shakey seems to have forgotten that he sucks donkey balls. 

Rea seems found out what Haslam and Stiggy have known all season:  the Ohlins is the better.

Ducati seems to have killed the competition.  Four ducs in the top 6?  Yowza. 

Kawi seems intent on continuing its WSBK streak of sucking.

BTW, there is a *really* interesting discussion in that OTT video gm2 posted about Yami v. Duc reliability.  Basically, they say that the factory and privateer ducs are so close to the production 1098R, that they're more reliable.  In contrast, the Yamis are--other than the engine--one-off, hand-built bikes (not *really* factory bikes per se), which in turn leads to more reliability problems. 


 [laugh]

Do I get any points for calling that Ben wasn't gonna get on pole, even if I was wrong about the usurper?  Anything?  A cookie, mebbe?   ;D

you have a PM...

on the other hand, while they are starting to figure them out in the AMA, look at the performance of the WSBK R1 compared to the AMA R1.

actually, never mind.  that's a valid point but it's not.  the modification rules in the Edmondson Cup are so totally different now that you can't draw a comparison to a WSBK machine without 100 caveats.

interesting thing also is that the 2008 AMA R1s were actually from the Milan WSBK team/factory.  and while they didn't exactly set the world on fire in the states, Ben did get on Nori's '08 machine the day after Portimao and with almost no changes he went podium-fast.  he got off that bike and said something to the effect of, 'those bikes should have been winning [in the AMA] all year.'

so basically, the '08 AMA R1 could have theoretically kept up with ben and mat... if they hadn't been ridden by eboz and disalvo.  that, and the '09 AMA R1 needs to have it's gas tank relocated.  ..which was the same situation the '08 ZX-10R was in; as soon as they moved the fuel load, jamie starting doing impressive things.

therefore, all race bikes need to have frame-spar or centered fuel storage.

/stream of consciousness.  ;)


edit: besides, how many actual reliability problems has ben's bike had?  if you don't count running out of fuel, i can only think of one: a broken shifter.  am i forgetting something?

race started wet, byrne and xaus both lead at one point. hacking was in third for a bit.

spies closes the championship points gap to haga to 39 points.

i don't think these results reflect a ride through penalty for xaus that i'm sure will be assessed w/ a time penalty, though i think that's why 88 was excluded. maybe he served it while i wasn't watching.

1 19 Spies B USA Yamaha YZF R1
2 67 Byrne S GBR Ducati 1098R
3 84 Fabrizio M ITA Ducati 1098R
4 96 Smrz J CZE Ducati 1098R
5 41 Haga N JPN Ducati 1098R
6 71 Kagayama Y JPN Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9
7 65 Rea J GBR Honda CBR1000RR
8 66 Sykes T GBR Yamaha YZF R1
9 56 Nakano S JPN Aprilia RSV4 Factory
10 14 Lagrive M FRA Honda CBR1000RR
11 7 Checa C ESP Honda CBR1000RR
12 91 Haslam L GBR Honda CBR1000RR
13 3 Biaggi M ITA Aprilia RSV4 Factory
14 111 Xaus R ESP BMW S1000 RR
15 53 Polita A ITA Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9
16 2 Hacking J USA Kawasaki ZX 10R
17 23 Parkes B AUS Kawasaki ZX 10R
18 10 Nieto F ESP Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9
19 57 Lanzi L ITA Ducati 1098R
20 77 Iannuzzo V ITA Honda CBR1000RR
21 94 Checa D ESP Yamaha YZF R1
22 36 Lavilla G ESP Ducati 1098R
23 25 Salom D ESP Kawasaki ZX 10R
RET 99 Scassa L ITA Kawasaki ZX 10R
RET 15 Baiocco M ITA Kawasaki ZX 10R
RET 11 Corser T AUS BMW S1000 RR
RET 9 Kiyonari R JPN Honda CBR1000RR
NS 121 Hopkins J USA Honda CBR1000RR
EX 88 Resch R AUT Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9

shit... something wrong w/spies' bike for race 2... he's pulling off track.  :'(

...actually, he's still circulating. currently 15th place, running not far off the pace of the leaders.

REA!!!

race 2 Results

1 65 Rea J GBR Honda CBR1000RR 1'37.497 1'37.475  24
2 84 Fabrizio M ITA Ducati 1098R 1'37.597 1'37.188 0.063 24
3 41 Haga N JPN Ducati 1098R 1'37.414 1'37.135 0.457 24
4 96 Smrz J CZE Ducati 1098R 1'37.423 1'37.163 3.635 24
5 7 Checa C ESP Honda CBR1000RR 1'38.432 1'37.682 4.460 24
6 67 Byrne S GBR Ducati 1098R 1'37.417 1'37.417 4.538 24
7 66 Sykes T GBR Yamaha YZF R1 1'38.020 1'37.785 12.679 24
8 91 Haslam L GBR Honda CBR1000RR 1'37.935 1'37.479 12.763 24
9 19 Spies B USA Yamaha YZF R1 1'38.008 1'37.351 13.237 24
10 3 Biaggi M ITA Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'37.992 1'37.781 14.412 24
11 71 Kagayama Y JPN Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 1'38.673 1'37.911 20.073 24
12 10 Nieto F ESP Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 1'38.453 1'37.914 20.239 24
13 56 Nakano S JPN Aprilia RSV4 Factory 1'39.462 1'38.012 22.351 24
14 9 Kiyonari R JPN Honda CBR1000RR 1'38.939 1'37.729 24.547 24
15 36 Lavilla G ESP Ducati 1098R 1'38.908 1'37.884 24.696 24
16 111 Xaus R ESP BMW S1000 RR 1'38.251 1'38.217 25.615 24
17 23 Parkes B AUS Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'38.842 1'38.221 31.887 24
18 57 Lanzi L ITA Ducati 1098R 1'39.010 1'38.426 34.751 24
19 11 Corser T AUS BMW S1000 RR 1'39.568 1'38.398 38.061 24
20 99 Scassa L ITA Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'39.837 1'39.042 47.717 24
21 14 Lagrive M FRA Honda CBR1000RR 1'42.690 1'38.980 48.973 24
22 2 Hacking J USA Kawasaki ZX 10R 1'38.996 1'38.974 51.027 24
23 53 Polita A ITA Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9 1'40.098 1'39.315 52.526 24
24 77 Iannuzzo V ITA Honda CBR1000RR 1'41.097 1'39.434 57.589 24
25 88 Resch R AUT Suzuki GSX-R 1000 K9  1'40.859  23
26 25 Salom D ESP Kawasaki ZX 10R PIT IN 1'39.443 4 Laps 19
27 94 Checa D ESP Yamaha YZF R1 PIT IN 1'39.756 8 Laps 15
28 15 Baiocco M ITA Kawasaki ZX 10R  1'39.567 18 Laps 5

ben gives 9 points back to haga.

http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/news/148725/1/frustration_setting_in_spies_confesses.html (http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/news/148725/1/frustration_setting_in_spies_confesses.html)

Derby - where/ what channel are you watching on?  Races just wrapped up for me (east coast) on Speed...

Kind of surprised Haga gave up and settled for 3rd... or at least he seemed to

i watched on the worldsbk site at 3am...


it was probably safer.  ;D

You are way more dedicated than I am..

Yeah definitely a safer way to pull a podium.  Just a little disappointed since he's been running so strongly this season

if ben had been in front of him, you likely would've seen him push harder. it was "just" michel and rea.

Ugh . .

punted off track in turn 1; punted off track again
lowside
clipped the dirt while leading -- highside
ran out of gas in the last corner
shifter go boom
clutch doesn't work

v.

Hit a bird, crashed
Back hurt from practice highside -- lower than usual finish

you had to say something ;D

blame the guy holding those red lights so long, not me ;)

Damn, look at how much more off the bike Spies is than everyone else

(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/72658-2/img_1245607180_971_lg.jpg)
(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/72631-2/image29.jpg)
(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/72511-2/669_R08_Spies_action-1000.jpg)

Compare:

(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/72402-2/_ZAC6830.jpg)
(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/72399-2/_ZAC6818.jpg)

Haga's channeling Rossi

(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/72736-2/AP1_0627.jpg)

Faaaack.  Now THAT's close racing.

(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/72910-2/1096.jpg)
(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/72991-2/wss_2009_06_21_Misano_JonathanRea_6068.jpg)

Look!  Twins.  (pun intended)

(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/72841-2/IMG_7274.jpg)

Go Brits!! It makes my Brit heart sing. We are (on average) the best superbike racers on earth-lol...  ;D ;D ;D

lol, ok we had a good weekend, all that really matters is that lil' ol' Ducati is still dominating world bike racing right?


Of course. [roll]

what are you talking abou?!  your man couldn't hold on to a 17 second lead!

 [cheeky] ;D

Ok, so Shakey mismanaged his lead a little. But 4 Brits in the top ten, that's a little brag worthy isn't it? ;D

this might be my favoritest new picture.

we all know leon aint slow; ben's making him look like he's on a sunday picnic.