Ducati Monster Forum

After hitting a pothole back in May, I needed my dealer to order me a new front wheel for my 696.  The wheel was back-ordered, so they took a wheel and tire off a 696 that had been on the Ducati Demo Ride, and put in on my 696.  About a week and a half later, the new wheel arrived.  They were in no hurry to swap wheels, so I have continued to ride on the used wheel.  It has been about three weeks since the dealership received the new wheel.  The service manager calls me today and tells me that Ducati has switched wheel manufacturers, and that the paint finish on this new wheel will not match my back stock wheel, and that they cannot order a wheel that will match my stock back wheel.   He says I can buy the used rim (which came to me with a chip out of it) but that the price will be very close to what I would be paying for the new rim ($1500 CAN).   Your thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance for your help!

 

Jebus... for A bit more you could get a set of lighter aftermarket wheels - both of em!  Talk to Motowheels about what they have that would fit a 696...

As far as swapping manufacturers... I don't know about that.  What's stamped on your current wheel?  And can your dealer illuminate you to who is the new guy?

And FWIW, when it comes to wheels Marchesini = Brembo.  The latter owns the former.

The used wheel is a Marchesisni wheel.  I will have to find out who the new manufacturer is if there indeed is one.

I knew Marchesini was owned by Brembo as I happened to notice that on the Marchesini website.

What do you feel would be a fair price for this used rim?  It came to me with a chip out of the paint.

+1

+1 to Motowheels.

 For roughly $200 more, you could have either a set of Carrozzeria's or a set of ITX's.  Both are Forged AL.  Way better.

Not for $1500 CAN

You're right.  My bad.  Somehow missed the "CAN" part.

Do you think the dealer is trying to scam me?  I don't feel I am responsible for the wheel they ordered, as it does not match my bike.

If the used rim is in good shape other than a paint chip or two, what would you suggest as a fair price for it?

Given the size of your rotors, you might not be able to even tell.....

you know i would check with another dealer and make sure the part truly was superceded. sounds more like they ordered the wrong part.

Yes, that is what I am afraid of.

+1     call Ducati Seattle and do a quick sanity check.

mitt

Another option: take the used wheel, but ask for a bigger discount.  Use the money saved to get both wheels powder-coated in the color of your choice.

What would be a fair price for a year old wheel with couple of paint chips?

well ya kinda have to admit it was cool of them to let you use the wheel in the first place while they ordered another. and a single chip? again i would call another dealer and get a price quote on a new wheel and apply a discount on that.

Yes, it was good of them, although the bike had been sitting there waiting for the new wheel for 4 to 5 weeks by that point.  If I find out the service manager is trying to get me to pay for his mistake, any goodwill I have been feeling will be gone.

I think that I noticed on the 1198 that the wheels wre NOT Marchesini wheels.  I can't remember what they were, but I will check.

Thanks! That would be great.

you shoudl be able to get a set of stock wheel for about $650USD

I dont know if they woudl fit , but this would look pretty cool

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-Sportclassic-Sport-1000-Wheels-Tires-Rims-GT_W0QQitemZ250471095339QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3a513d9c2b&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1171 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ducati-Sportclassic-Sport-1000-Wheels-Tires-Rims-GT_W0QQitemZ250471095339QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item3a513d9c2b&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1171)

Powder the rims and hubs black and leave the spokes the stock...

the other option is to get a wheel like this

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/09-Ducati-Monster-696-Marchesini-Front-Rim-Wheel_W0QQitemZ130303185758QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item1e56acd35e&_trksid=p4506.m20.l1116 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/09-Ducati-Monster-696-Marchesini-Front-Rim-Wheel_W0QQitemZ130303185758QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotorcycles_Parts_Accessories?hash=item1e56acd35e&_trksid=p4506.m20.l1116)

and send it to one of the wheel straightening places. We use the Frame Man in Sacramento ca, often. no more than about $200.

I think 1500CAN is about $80 usd so it isnt that bad, ;) Seriously tho, its too much.. Its a great thing the dealer did for you, but its not worth suckign up the wheel. Have them fit the new wheels for you, and get wheels elsewhere.. There is a company called Durani or something close that, $1500 USD for a pair of Magnesium wheels.

Few ideas...

Will

Thanks for the options!

I called another Canadian Ducati dealer today, and he doubted that Ducati had switched manufacturers.  Since the brakes are by Brembo, and Brembo owns Marchesini, I would be surprised if Ducati is no longer using the Marchesini wheels.

I received a call from Ducati North America about 45 minutes ago in response to my e-mail to them on Friday.  They have changed manufacturers for their cast wheels.  The new manufacturer is Enkei, which appears to be Japanese.  Anyone know anything about them?

Enkei has been around FOREVER. I had some Enkei wheels on my 89 Corolla GT-S and my 96 240sx

http://www.enkei.com/

Unfortunately, I can't seem to find a site that sells motorcycle wheels.  Do you know of one?

A quick scan of eBay says that a Marchesini front wheel goes for 300-700USD.

I assume the 3-spokers are less expensive.  I'd say 275USD is a decent starting point. 

I'm sure if anyone disagrees, they'll speak up.

Thank-you!  I appreciate it!

Yeah, I looked there too. Can't seem to kind anything that says they make moto wheels...

I have seen references online that they make the motorcycle wheels, but I can't seem to find a vendor.  It sounds like they have made wheels for Honda, Kawasaki and Yamaha.

I hate to say it but probably made in China POS !!!!

my 2C follow the previous advice and buy forged wheels, you'll be happier and have a custom look.

never heard of Enkei making moto wheels, but that's nothing new.  Maybe by making OEM's, they are trying to break in?  Enkei has always been known for quality cage wheels. 

IIRC, enkei has made wheel for the japanese brands for years

I can make Marchesini stickers for any new bike owners out there ;D [thumbsup]

My Honda Superhawk had Enkei wheels on it. I was thinking cool, now I finally have a set of Enkeis. But in your case if they don't match, they don't match..

Yeah, that is the thing.  They do seem like they would be cheaper to buy though, but the paint finish won't match.

enkei a chinese pos?
roflmao

As someone already pointed out enkei have been around forever. Their car wheels are hideously expensive.

Dunno if they still do but they used to make Mclarens wheels for the F1 cars.


Marchesini/brembo are the same company just different brand names.

Brembo is owned by Yamaha.

Interesting, I wasn't aware of that.

Link please.  This is the first I have ever heard that and find it hard to believe.

mitt

Yeah, Brembo is Brembo SpA, Italy. They aren't owned by anyone besides Brembo...

cant find it online  it was in an old yamaha dealer bulletin i read. They bought ohlins too.

And since sold Ohlins back to themselves

In case anyone doubts Nakid:

http://www.brembo.com/ENG/AboutBrembo/InvestorRelationsFinancialInfo/CompanyStructure/ (http://www.brembo.com/ENG/AboutBrembo/InvestorRelationsFinancialInfo/CompanyStructure/)

After doing some reading on other Ducati forums, it looks like Ducati may be going mostly or perhaps entirely to Enkei wheels.  A few people who have just taken delivery of new bikes have been quite displeased to find Enkei wheels instead of the adverstised Marchesini wheels.

do the wheels look the same? apart from the colour difference?
because if they are the same design but just made by enkei then Ducati are quite within their rights to change them.

sounds like a bunch of brand junkie fashion victims that ordered a ducati cos its trendy.

Folks who know their bikes won't care.

For the original poster.
Have you tried doing a breakers yard  part serach online?
Yeah it wont be new but it'll match and it can't be much older than the one you bent.

also is there a problem with the 696's wheels being soft? I'm pretty sure this isntt the  first bent wheel thread.
Maybe thats why theyve changed to Enkei?

How would I do the search you suggest?

I wouldn't doubt there is a problem with the wheels. 

If you still have that wheel the dealer lent you, keep it till you find a new wheel. I've bought and sold many wheels on ebay, I look on ebay for a good use rim.

http://motors.shop.ebay.com/Motorcycle-Parts-/10063/i.html?Make=Ducati&_dmpt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&_fln=1&_qfkw=1&_sop=12&_ssov=1&_trksid=p4506.c0.m282&Part%2520Type=Wheels%252C%2520Tires (http://motors.shop.ebay.com/Motorcycle-Parts-/10063/i.html?Make=Ducati&_dmpt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&_fln=1&_qfkw=1&_sop=12&_ssov=1&_trksid=p4506.c0.m282&Part%2520Type=Wheels%252C%2520Tires)

I remember reading a road test of the *then* new R1 and they said Yamaha owned Brembo.  That doesn't mean the magazine was correct...  and that is the only time I've ever read or heard about the Yamaha connection so the article must have been ?mis-informed? <- politically correct word lol

Thanks for the search!

I will continue to look, as the dealer wants $1300 CAN for the rim which appears to be about a year old.

 I bought a set (F/R) off of a 05 monster 1000 in like new condition for less 500. A front rim should not be more than $300. Tell the stealership thanks but no thanks.

Yeah, the price is ridiculous.

Just take your time, a like new rim will show up. [thumbsup]

Yes, I think that is good advice.  It looks like the front wheel of previous Monsters might fit too, so that gives me more options.

Are the 696 front rotors 6 bolt or 5 bolt? The S2R and older 2 valve Monsters are all 6 bolt...

I just ran down and looked.  There are 6 bolts on my 696. 

http://www.riderparts.com/ (http://www.riderparts.com/)
http://www.mrcycleparts.com/ (http://www.mrcycleparts.com/)

there are others too.  just enter the apert you want then wait for the salvage yards to get in touch

Thanks for the info!

what colour are your wheels? i scanned the previous post but cant see it apologies if youve said before.
For some reason i'm thinking Red.
cos colour matching black is easier

Reason i ask is i did a search in the uk for you and i've found a salvaged front wheel. I'm waiting for a reply on the price but i know the breaker is usually cheap as chips.
It has paint damage from having the trye removed a 3" scuff. thing is its black

The wheel is black.

That means the S2R1000 wheels may fit, since they are also 6 bolt. You might be able to use your existing rotors...

Another dealer told me that several other Monster models would fit, including the S2R and S4R.  I know I need a 3.5 X 17 inch Marchesini/Brembo 3 spoke wheel with a 25mm axle.  I am a little IZ_ on other details I may need to know.

You don't NEED a 3 spoke...

cool the one i found is black.
shipping from scotland to canada might suck tho. and the paint is scuffed.
i'll let you know what the price is when the guy replies

someone here did the swap with the S2R rim i think. it needs some mods.

There are several nice five spoke Marshesini wheels on ebay, but it appears all the matching rear wheels are for single-sided swingarms only.

I assume this one is on the UK ebay?  I think I saw it.  Thanks for looking!  If it is the listing I saw, it didn't look like they would ship outside the UK.