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Title: suicide stand must go!
Post by: ducati culture on August 11, 2009, 09:41:32 AM
Ok.... I thought it was pretty cool several years ago.  But Now I am just sick and tired of it. So how the heck do I get kick stand off.  Its been soaking in PB and I have yet to turn it  1/4.  Yes this is on a 96 M900 CARBIE.  i HAVE THE MOD BOLT so it will no longer be a suicide stand once I get that freaking bolt out!  Any advice? [bang]
Title: Re: suicide stand must go!
Post by: Desmo Demon on August 11, 2009, 10:18:59 AM
Quote from: ducati culture on August 11, 2009, 09:41:32 AM
Ok.... I thought it was pretty cool several years ago.  But Now I am just sick and tired of it. So how the heck do I get kick stand off. 

After nine years, I finally did away with the suicide stand on my '98 ST2 a few weeks ago. To get my sidestand off, I just removed the two bolts that hold the bracket onto the case and removed the whole sidestand assembly. I found it pretty easy to take the assembly apart this way. If you do this, use blue locktite when attaching it back on the engine case and check the torque a few times after riding it to make sure it doesn't loosen up.
Title: Re: suicide stand must go!
Post by: Slide Panda on August 11, 2009, 10:20:47 AM
D - have you got the stand off the bike?

Would a newer - non flip up just bolt up in it's place?
Title: Re: suicide stand must go!
Post by: Desmo Demon on August 11, 2009, 10:36:21 AM
Quote from: yuu on August 11, 2009, 10:20:47 AM
Would a newer - non flip up just bolt up in it's place?

I'm sure it would, as this is a modification that a lot of people do with the '98 ST2 bikes to get rid of the weird-looking "dogleg" sidestand. Not like it is any real issue, but the newer ones have an engine kill switch that mounts to the sidestand....you'll just need to take the switch assembly off since there is nothing to hook it up to.
Title: Re: suicide stand must go!
Post by: ducati culture on August 11, 2009, 10:47:08 AM
Quote from: yuu on August 11, 2009, 10:20:47 AM
D - have you got the stand off the bike?

Would a newer - non flip up just bolt up in it's place?

Nope that sucker is still on there.  I have the nicholas bolt so I want to use the same stand.  The idea of removing the entire unit then removing the center bolt may be the solution unless he-man live near my garage and can break the bolt free. Though I Am up to  a full replacement if the job is simpler.  [beer]dc
Title: Re: suicide stand must go!
Post by: Slide Panda on August 11, 2009, 10:53:58 AM
Finding a newer one on Ebay might not be too hard.

And there's always impact tools...
Title: Re: suicide stand must go!
Post by: Desmo Demon on August 11, 2009, 10:57:47 AM
Quote from: yuu on August 11, 2009, 10:53:58 AM
And there's always impact tools...

Heat can often be your friend. Never know, a previous owner may have used red locktite on the stand and it will require heat, anyway. I've got an industrial heat gun that I wind up using a lot when working on vehicles.
Title: Re: suicide stand must go!
Post by: 64duc on August 11, 2009, 11:41:29 AM
Get it off the bike first, then you can use a home owners propane torch to heat it up.
Title: Re: suicide stand must go!
Post by: ducati culture on August 11, 2009, 12:02:28 PM
Is that bolt left loosey righty tighty? dc
Title: Re: suicide stand must go!
Post by: battlecry on August 11, 2009, 01:27:16 PM

If it has red locktite, DD is right, heat will soften it up.  Otherwise, try a mix of acetone and transmission fluid.  Works great to loosen bots.
Title: Re: suicide stand must go!
Post by: erik822 on August 14, 2009, 06:33:13 AM
If you can get it off the bike you can always try bringing the whole kickstand assembly to a repair shop. They'll have impact guns and shouldn't charge much to loosen one bolt.

Title: Re: suicide stand must go!
Post by: ducati culture on August 14, 2009, 06:42:23 AM
does anyone have an old schematic of the m900
Title: Re: suicide stand must go!
Post by: erik822 on August 14, 2009, 10:34:51 AM
Do you mean owner's manual or workshop manual?

You can download either one as a PDF here (free):
http://www.carlsalter.com/motorcycle-manuals.asp (http://www.carlsalter.com/motorcycle-manuals.asp)

or from www.duc.nu (//http://) (not free, but darn close)

Title: Re: suicide stand must go!
Post by: ducati culture on August 14, 2009, 11:22:25 AM
I have the service manual but the parts schematic shows the break out of how things come apart which I am lacking.
Title: Re: suicide stand must go!
Post by: ducati culture on August 14, 2009, 11:52:51 AM
Thats an awesome listing!   [bow_down]
Title: Re: suicide stand must go!
Post by: Gimpy on August 16, 2009, 02:26:57 PM
You guys are freaking me out!  I just ordered a replacement side stand that is an 1.5 inches longer than stock. (CycleCat)  Am I going to have a hell of a time getting that bolt out?   Will the side stand kill switch bolt on to the replacement? Since DC isn't planning on installing that side stand I know its a bit of a stretch, but hey maybe someone knows!
Title: Re: suicide stand must go!
Post by: dlearl476 on August 18, 2009, 08:39:06 AM
Quote from: ducati culture on August 14, 2009, 11:52:51 AM
Thats an awesome listing!   [bow_down]
True, but once again my hopes have been dashed.  Try as I might I've never been able to find a part manual for my 99 M900.
Title: Re: suicide stand must go!
Post by: erik822 on August 18, 2009, 08:50:37 AM
I'm pretty sure this guy has an older, carb monster parts manual for sale:

http://www.ducati-gowanloch.com/manuals.htm (http://www.ducati-gowanloch.com/manuals.htm)

It says 900M Monster. That would have to be an older carb version, right. It's listed under spare parts catalogs.