This is a first for me. I've changed out several tires on my S4....
When I even hand tighten the nut the axle spins. I have the bike off the stand and not luck. Anyone? Could it be the new wheels?
Quote from: tonkoshala on August 20, 2009, 02:24:07 PM
This is a first for me. I've changed out several tires on my S4....
When I even hand tighten the nut the axle spins. I have the bike off the stand and not luck. Anyone? Could it be the new wheels?
have you tried putting the bike in gear?
The wheels shouldn't have anything to do with it.
Quote from: El Matador on August 20, 2009, 02:26:08 PM
have you tried putting the bike in gear?
It's in gear I just put on a new sprocket...
That wouldn't make a difference anyhow. It is the axle that is spinning. I have never had to use anything to hold the side opposite of the nut. Though it looks like it take a very large "star" hex socket....What am I doing wrong?
You may have put a burr on the threads installing or removing it.
Hold the other end.
I am using a titanium nut. Checked the threads and cleaned everything very well. Didn't notice any 'burrs.'
Any ideas on what to use to hold the axle? I am sure a hex that big will be pretty pricey.
Quote from: tonkoshala on August 20, 2009, 05:07:44 PM
I am using a titanium nut. Checked the threads and cleaned everything very well. Didn't notice any 'burrs.'
Any ideas on what to use to hold the axle? I am sure a hex that big will be pretty pricey.
maybe try threading the stock nut on?
The largest Allen (hex) key I have found on a duc is a 14 mm . A snap-on one cost me $15. Any big tool shop should have one for cheaper than that. If it is larger or you dont want to buy one there is an emergency tool you can make. Find a metric bolt where the head of the bolt fits in the hex. (there will be a size that fits perfectly) Then run some nuts down on the bolt til they reach the head and put the head of the bolt in the axle on the hex side and use a wrench or socket to hole the nut. With the nut run down the threads are in the tighten position while tightening the axle so it will not unscrew back off the bolt.
Most moto accessory shops will have a multi-hex tool, Motion Pro distributes 'em.
(http://www.motionpro.com/images/items/08-0397.jpg)
http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0397/ (http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0397/)
They've got an Aluminum one too, lighter and more $.
I'm pretty sure it will fit... measure up your axle to be sure.
What are you using to tighten the nut on the side your working on? Isn't its just a 22mm nut on both sides?
Use a pair of adjustable wrenches if you cant find the correct socket.
Quote from: mdriver on August 20, 2009, 08:48:28 PM
What are you using to tighten the nut on the side your working on? Isn't its just a 22mm nut on both sides?
Use a pair of adjustable wrenches if you cant find the correct socket.
No I only have one 30MM nut.
Quote from: Speeddog on August 20, 2009, 05:43:09 PM
Most moto accessory shops will have a multi-hex tool, Motion Pro distributes 'em.
(http://www.motionpro.com/images/items/08-0397.jpg)
http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0397/ (http://www.motionpro.com/motorcycle/partno/08-0397/)
They've got an Aluminum one too, lighter and more $.
I'm pretty sure it will fit... measure up your axle to be sure.
You have a S4. I'm sure we have the same axle. Do you use this when your installing a rear tire? What gets me is that it has never happened before...
Real PITA is that it's taken a month to get my wheels back. I have everything ready new sprockets new chain BSTs' installed and now I can't tighten down the rear axle lol...
Hey! Ya think fabing up a rubber gasket to keep it in place work ok?
Is this Ti nut a new addition, or were you using it before?
Also how far on does it go before stopping?
Quote from: ducpainter on August 21, 2009, 03:30:16 AM
Is this Ti nut a new addition, or were you using it before?
Also how far on does it go before stopping?
It's new. I tested it on the axle before installing everything. It would screw all the way down....I also tried the stock nut last night. No luck. Same thing...I mean hand torque with the socket and the axle spins. I am most likely not even getting 15 nm before this occurs. No way I can get 76 nm that it calls for. I even had someone sit on the bike and no luck.
No rubber gasket, but a lil bit of electrical tape around the end worked! [thumbsup]
BTW This is a pic of the side that was spinning. Just in case someone else runs into this problem...
(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l184/tonkoshala/08212009488.jpg)
Mine's never tried to spin, but yours does now.
Sometimes wacky shit like that happens. :-\
Just for posterity, it's a 17mm hex in the end of the axle.
My MotionPro tool (as shown above, but the aluminum version) works in it.
Holy make the beast with two backs I am the most lucky unlucky person on the planet....
My speedo does not work. I did a short run on the bike down the expressway. Handles GREAT defiantly tell an improvement all around, but......So I pull over to test out my speed by turning on the GPS on the phone. Smoke... [bang] [bang] [bang]
(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l184/tonkoshala/08212009492.jpg)
(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l184/tonkoshala/08212009493.jpg)
Not sure what the make the beast with two backs I did wrong but >:( >:( >:(
I'm taking it to the shop I am tired of dicking with it...........
Ack! :o
Best of luck to you. :P
Quote from: Speeddog on August 21, 2009, 02:16:50 PM
Ack! :o
Best of luck to you. :P
Any idea what could have caused it? I checked and everything seemed to be sound before I took off. My guy is not going to be able to get to it until next Tuesday...These wheels I think are cursed!
My guess is you missed the spacer on the left side of the axle, but it's really hard to tell.
Quote from: Speeddog on August 21, 2009, 08:10:38 PM
My guess is you missed the spacer on the left side of the axle, but it's really hard to tell.
+1. I've almost missed that little make the beast with two backser twice.
Quote from: Speeddog on August 21, 2009, 08:10:38 PM
My guess is you missed the spacer on the left side of the axle, but it's really hard to tell.
Which maybe is why the axle nut wouldn't tighten properly?
Is the rear caliper carrier scraping the rotor, and did the rotor bolts hit the rear caliper carrier? ???
Maybe it's just the pic, but what's all the crap around the axle? ???
Quote from: tonkoshala on August 21, 2009, 12:08:04 PM
(http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l184/tonkoshala/08212009492.jpg)
does it look like his rotor is being shaved by the caliper bracket?
It kind of looks like the wheel bearing just came apart. There are scrapes on the right and left side like the wheel has been rocking side to side. Alot of movement if it broke the speed sensor.
I did....it is off set over to the right pretty far...not sure what caused it yet....will update as soon as I find out....I was told that it might have been the wheel bearing.
I just really hope these wheels are going to be worth all of the trouble. >:(