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Title: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: cyrus buelton on August 23, 2009, 05:17:51 AM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32523294/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32523294/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/)


Sad story, but I find the forensic side pretty interesting.

so she has no teeth, no fingers to ID, so during the autopsy, they remove her implants and pull the serial number to trace her identity.

makes me wonder if all the pins in my shoulder have serial numbers and can be traced back to my surgeon and me.
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: NAKID on August 23, 2009, 06:32:18 AM
Yes they do and yes they can...
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: red baron on August 23, 2009, 06:49:54 AM
I was reading that in yesterday's paper and thought someone knew what they were doing.

The average idiot would not think to remove teeth and fingers.

Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: derby on August 23, 2009, 06:54:36 AM
i seem to remember an implant identification on an episode of law and order.

Quote from: trouble on August 23, 2009, 06:49:54 AM
I was reading that in yesterday's paper and thought someone knew what they were doing.

The average idiot would not think to remove teeth and fingers.


the average idiot would probably just remove the teeth and fingers... something that actually knew what they were doing would've removed the implants, too. ;D
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: Speedbag on August 23, 2009, 07:31:53 AM
Quote from: derby on August 23, 2009, 06:54:36 AM

the average idiot would probably just remove the teeth and fingers... something that actually knew what they were doing would've removed the implants, too. ;D

The average idiot probably thought they were real.  ;)
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: cyrus buelton on August 23, 2009, 07:50:57 AM
Quote from: trouble on August 23, 2009, 06:49:54 AM
The average idiot would not think to remove teeth and fingers.

I don't know, if you don't want someone to be IDed, then definitely remove those features or any identifying markings.


I would have never even thought about the implant deal.
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: He Man on August 23, 2009, 07:59:27 AM
the avg idiot would of done that, but your avg INSANE idiot would of just eaten her.
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: mstevens on August 23, 2009, 09:56:22 AM
Any FDA-approved surgical device that can possibly carry a unique number does. Some surgical meshes and other things that get modified in OR don't carry a number, but just about any plastic or metal gizmo will have a number that will be traceable back to a specific lot in the factory and to what hospital it was delivered to. Most have stickers on the package that make transposing the number to a patient chart very easy.
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: DesmoLu on August 23, 2009, 01:00:51 PM
Quote from: He Man on August 23, 2009, 07:59:27 AM
the avg idiot would of done that, but your avg INSANE idiot would of just eaten her.

[laugh] [clap]
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: red baron on August 23, 2009, 05:47:11 PM
Quote from: He Man on August 23, 2009, 07:59:27 AM
the avg idiot would of done that, but your avg INSANE idiot would of just eaten her.

You scare me more every day.

;D
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: Grampa on August 23, 2009, 05:48:40 PM
they just found the guy who they think did it.... he's dead.

Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: herm on August 23, 2009, 06:35:25 PM
Quote from: NAKID on August 23, 2009, 06:32:18 AM
Yes they do and yes they can...

dont forget about the chip implant.
every federal employee gets one when the do their first physical upon entry into service.
makes it easier for the man to know how much time you spend at the water cooler.

problem is, they dont take them out when you retire/resign, etc...
mine buzzes a bit in thunder storms  :P
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: KopfjÀger on August 23, 2009, 06:44:47 PM
Quote from: bobspapa on August 23, 2009, 05:48:40 PM
they just found the guy who they think did it.... he's dead.



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32534223/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32534223/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/)
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: cyrus buelton on August 23, 2009, 07:08:54 PM
Quote from: kopfjager on August 23, 2009, 06:44:47 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32534223/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32534223/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/)

good riddance scumbag
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: Howie on August 23, 2009, 07:36:24 PM
At least he saved us taxpayers some money.
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: Grampa on August 23, 2009, 07:40:00 PM
Quote from: howie on August 23, 2009, 07:36:24 PM
At least he saved us taxpayers some money.

any spoons found near him?
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: herm on August 23, 2009, 08:14:47 PM
Quote from: howie on August 23, 2009, 07:36:24 PM
At least he saved us taxpayers some money.

thank you howie!
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: cyrus buelton on August 23, 2009, 08:20:03 PM
Quote from: howie on August 23, 2009, 07:36:24 PM
At least he saved us taxpayers some money.

*11ty billion
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: erik822 on August 23, 2009, 10:44:31 PM
I was a little disappointed he didn't chop off his own fingers, remove his teeth and then kill himself by suffocating inside a suitcase tossed in a dumpster.

And why don't these people just commit suicide first?
Wouldn't that be better for everyone involved?
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: mstevens on August 23, 2009, 11:55:27 PM
Quote from: erik822 on August 23, 2009, 10:44:31 PM
I was a little disappointed he didn't chop off his own fingers, remove his teeth and then kill himself by suffocating inside a suitcase tossed in a dumpster.

And why don't these people just commit suicide first?
Wouldn't that be better for everyone involved?

Of course, to replicate the murder he would have had to strangle himself first, which makes all those subsequent steps quite challenging.

If people had the ability to think things through in the first place, hardly any killing (of others or of self) would be happening. Thus, another replay of the old idiotic pattern.
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: r_ciao on August 24, 2009, 08:29:23 AM
here's a scary thought

this guy thought that by removing the teeth and the fingers it would make it more difficult/impossible to ID the victim.
now that the news is out that she was ID'd by serial number on her implants, does it mean that
the next crazy SOB will remove those as well?
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: LMT on August 24, 2009, 08:37:42 AM
Implants have been used to ID victims for a while now. This is not the first case, and sadly, will not be the last.
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: NAKID on August 24, 2009, 08:40:08 AM
Correct, but what I think he's getting at is that they don't usually publicize that they used the implant serial numbers to ID her...
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: mstevens on August 24, 2009, 08:43:21 AM
Quote from: r_ciao on August 24, 2009, 08:29:23 AMthis guy thought that by removing the teeth and the fingers it would make it more difficult/impossible to ID the victim.
now that the news is out that she was ID'd by serial number on her implants, does it mean that the next crazy SOB will remove those as well?

We don't really know what he thought, 'cause he's dead. Perhaps.

It turns out, though, that criminals aren't very smart and usually screw up, especially when they're under the stress of committing a major crime.

These days a relatively fresh body of someone known to be missing isn't very likely to go unidentified. I'll bet you money that investigators had a very good idea of whose body they'd found and used the serial numbers for confirmation rather than initial identification.
Title: Re: Breast Implant Serial number used to ID victim
Post by: derby on August 24, 2009, 08:48:59 AM
Quote from: NAKID on August 24, 2009, 08:40:08 AM
Correct, but what I think he's getting at is that they don't usually publicize that they used the implant serial numbers to ID her...

yeah... but like i said, it was also on a law & order episode years ago.