Ducati Monster Forum

http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/8/4506/Motorcycle-Article/2009-Streetfighter-Comparo-III.aspx (http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/8/4506/Motorcycle-Article/2009-Streetfighter-Comparo-III.aspx)

Kinda surprised they picked the Buell.  IMHO it looks like smashed ass. 

Reading the conclusions, pretty much every one of them said "I'd get the Buell because its cheaper, but the bike I REALLY want is the Streetfighter."

fixed

It's hard to notice it's ugly, If you are always chasing it. [evil]


http://motorcycles.about.com/b/2009/09/06/controversial-buell-1125r-wins-ama-daytona-sportbike-championship.htm (http://motorcycles.about.com/b/2009/09/06/controversial-buell-1125r-wins-ama-daytona-sportbike-championship.htm)


http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/ama-sbk-eslick-buell-dominate-sportbike-final/ (http://moto-racing.speedtv.com/article/ama-sbk-eslick-buell-dominate-sportbike-final/)

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Uh...isn't there a glaringly obvious participant missing from this test ??

(http://www.triumph.co.uk/images/SpeedTriple_2009_510x347.jpg)

Doesn't Buell get a 500cc advantage in Daytona?  Hardly surprising they win. 

Ya, but they don't all win. Eslick is a good rider on top of it...helped out by the displacement advantage no doubt.

and

(http://img.alibaba.com/photo/104828754/KTM_990_Super_Duke_R.jpg)

or

(http://www.9sn.net/resim/2009-MV-Agusta-BRUTALE-1078-RR.jpg)

come-on, you spend enough time in R&T, you know all the conspiracies  ;D  ;D

mitt

or the honda

(http://www.cubiccapacity.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/2008-honda-cb1000r.jpg)

 [evil]

I used to think the 1125 was a step forward for Buell - kind of interesting, but with all the AMA BS now, the Buell just gives me a headache.  No Buell, no way, no how.

I'd really like to think that this might be my next motorcycle.

GET OUT OF MY HEAD!  >:(

<doubles up on the foil hat>

Yeah wtf?  How is that even remotely fair?

how many cc's was Ducati given in the WBK and old SS clases?

It shouldn't be a cc exception for a mfg, it should be for all 2 cylinder engine configurations versus 4...

But, that isn't the worst.  The whole Buell RR thing is what put them and AMA on the hot seat - letting AMA teams use a non-street legal/available "model" that just came about mid season.

mitt

f'n Buells.   >:(

I don't have anything to offer in this thread, however that cracked me up!  Thanks Spidey  [thumbsup]

No problem.  Underlying the comment is a story about getting run over by a Buell, but since a picture is worth a thousand words . . .

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3087/2898664865_c2b60cfb4c_o.jpg)

Here, there's a pic in this thread that should help make up your mind:  http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305446 (http://www.bayarearidersforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=305446)  NWS

The link is a race report (with pics) from a local fast guy who is racing a SD against Ducatis, including at the AMA Laguna round.  His wife enjoys posing for pics with his bikes.   [thumbsup]

I think you just increased SD sales by 5%. 

Buell, WTF ??? They had to outsource the engine, with all that HD $$$ [roll] They get no respect from me, piss on 'em.

Heehee, always the minority, I recently saw a 1125CR and was pretty impressed. They're not nearly as hideous in person as in pics. I'd take one for the stable without question.

As for the outsourcing of the engine, gee, I believe lowly Aprilia also is known to have resorted to Rotax power.....

Well, technically Buell always outsourced his engine's.  ;) I would put one in the stable as well.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Sep/090911z.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Sep/090911z.htm)

As are other H-D plants by the sound of things....

Damn economy.  :P

Thanks Spidey.  Not sure if that was meant to help me decide for or against the SD, but I am still liking it.  ;)

I got to demo the Buell 1125CR a few weeks ago, much better than I expected.  Power strong, handling a little nervous and the ergos a little cramped.  It would make a good race bike but not a bike for street riding in my opinion.  Really wanting to demo the Streetfighter soon, got to set on one at the dealer last week seems to be a nice bike.

 ???
"We are, however, absolutely in love with its styling, engine sound, and the way it scares people as we’re wheeling past them, clicking easily through the gearbox down the road. If Ducati could just make the bike a bit more street-able – i.e. higher handlebar, a more relaxed seating position, lower gearing, they’d have a winner without question."

"It’s top dog because it delivers the most important intangible sensation when riding: Fun. It handles so perfectly that you feel like the bike is an extension of one’s being. Its ergonomics are well thought out and while its engine isn’t the fastest, it still has character and delivers all the right sensations, albeit at a tad slower speed. In fact, our only real complaints are some very minor styling and fit-and-finish issues. So, if it’s the best handling, most fun, easiest-to-use Streetfighter that you’re looking for, look no further. Say hello to the 2009 Buell 1125CR."

edit: Oh, I see the riders comments at the end...yup most of them liked the Duc.   [moto]

boo buell. hideous bike.

I would have agreed and still do about the air-cooled bikes they are junk but the water cooled bikes are not bad.  I still prefer Ducati with my second choice being KTM but not bad.

bulbous 'shoulders'. blech.

 
+1

I've only seen the all black one, and I thought the huge 'shoulders' looked like they blended in because of the all-black of the bike. The red ones stand out even more to me.

I hate all those magazine comparisons that don't quantify what criteria they're using to judge the bikes against. If they're really judging which bike it the "best streetfighter" they needed to measure:

1. Which one was fastest getting from the house to the office/other personal destination in urban area.
2. Number of heads turned as bike rolls past a crowd in an urban area
3. Ease and length of "wheelie"
4. How many times the new owner gets up in the middle of the night, flicks on the lights in his/her garage and smiles.

I'd take the SF over the Buell if only to never have to set foot in a Harley dealer for service.

Really?   Why?  What happened to you when you went into a Harley dealership?

He came out with 3 H-D bandanas, 2 H-D t-shirts, and H-D chaps.



 ;D


All he wanted was a quart of oil.

The Harley dealer here doesn't want anything to do with you unless you're there to drop $30K on a new Road Glide.

And the Ducati dealer gives you milk and cookies when you show up?  :D

Where's here?   Just trying to understand your bad experience.  Thats definately not the norm on my side of the country.  Hell, around here most of the employees go out to see the Ducati when they hear there's one in the parking lot.


 [laugh]

 [laugh]

I've yet to go into a motorcycle dealer and have an excellent experience, but the Ducati dealer at least came out and talked to me, gave me the info I wanted and has been decent at post sales parts orders and such.

When I went to the Harley dealer, I was sitting on a Buell XB12 and waiving at the sales people for 10 minutes with zero attention. So, I left and wet and bought my Monster. Same thing happened a couple years ago when I went to look at the Ulysses.

I used to own a Harley, which I bought from the same dealer several years ago. When you sit on a Harley there is someone at your side willing to help you out in about 10 seconds. Going into the Buell section was like entering another world that they didn't want any part of.

Seriously? thats not cool (but kind of a funny visual). 
The dealership owner I worked for for 9 years was on the Buell advisory board, and sport(style)bikes were a big part of our dealership.
I spent many weeks at the Buell plant & have had a bike on the cover of battle2win magazine that I thought looked pretty damn cool & put out 93ft. lbs. of torque.     

I am truely sorry for your bad experience. 

Well, they have donuts on Saturday mornings.   ;D

Eh, I'm not a hater. If I wanted a Harley I'd still go back there. My uncle has friends out west who say they were selling the crap out of Buells at their dealers before the current monetary woes.

And actually, they do. Krispy Kremes at that.  ;D

Never thought you were a "Hater". Those guys hide in the shadows.

You guys still have Krispy Kremes?  All of ours have closed.   :(

I think Krispy Kreme started in these parts.   8)  <-  Well, not really. 

Sorry but I'd quit riding before I buy American.

That is a silly statement. I do not care for the current offerings by Buell. It would be illogical to apply this to all future models by manufacturers Buell or otherwise that are, or will be, considered American.

I would rock a MotoCzysz C1 all day long!

Some day you might regret that statement.

mitt

The Buell has a nice engine, they are "close" to something I would buy.  Some Brembos and a cleaner radiator (getting rid of those shrouds) and I think they would be right there.  I still wouldn't consider it a track bike as long as it had a belt drive but for the street I could do a belt.

there's a conversion kit for the shrouds to full sides and a kit for belt to chain out there. add a new rim, ohlins, brembos and you got no more excuses.

Other than cost. Then... the streetfighter looks even more appetizing.

if the sf had a briggs and stratton engine i would take it over both. i owned a 07 tuono...what a miserable experience. as far as the buell it is just fugly.

Anyone have a pic of a ??Monstered?? (fixed) 1125?  The cost is a factor but now I am curious.

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/09/18/buell-conversion-kit-from-fusion-motorcycles/ (http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/09/18/buell-conversion-kit-from-fusion-motorcycles/)

^  [laugh]  Look Ma, it's a Harley.

I would ride that thing in a heartbeat.   [thumbsup]  I wouldn't replace my monster with it, but me definitely likey.  [moto]

(http://thekneeslider.com/images/fusionbuell3.jpg)

Especially with a big-inch engine cammed up all silly-like.  [evil]  [thumbsup]

In the write up he talks about a Ti frame option. Hmmm, S&S stroker, Ti frame, BST wheels.  [evil]

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/fusion4.jpg)

I'll take the Fusion, and this one.

Actaully I just want the Fusion, because the one I posted has nothing more than "bolt on" bits & pieces on a stock bike.  I dig it, but I Loooove the Un-titaniumable.

(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd164/dustykitska/buell.jpg)

These are all nice customs, but they all have the Sportster/Harley motor.  Has anyone seen a "fixed" Rotax powered 1125 Buell?

Point taken.

I have been using my iphone all day, so looking things up is tough.

I'll look for that stripped down one tonight, but am sure Daryl can come up with somethin'  [roll]
 

Easily I can post this though, and I think Lyle Lovett would rock this in his Vanson Texas flag jacket  [thumbsup]

If you guys don't know about Gene Thomason from Bartels in Marina Del Rey, he has a great story.


(http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd164/dustykitska/buell-1.jpg)