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Title: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: superjohn on September 11, 2009, 03:31:49 PM
Hi all,

Has anyone ever ordered a copy of someone's military records from http://www.archives.gov/veterans/evetrecs/index.html (http://www.archives.gov/veterans/evetrecs/index.html) ?

I submitted a request a few months back and they said it'd take 3-4 weeks, but it's been almost 8 weeks and I've not received the records I requested. I'm curious if anyone has any first hand experience and can verify if it may be taking a little longer than they say. If there's a problem with the request, will they respond or simply ignore it?

Thanks,
SJ
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: LMT on September 11, 2009, 04:55:06 PM
I got replacements for all my medals.  It took longer then 2 months.  It is my understanding that you can not get a copy of your actual records.  You can get verification of time served, medals awarded and that is about it. 

Am I wrong?
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: Kopfjäger on September 11, 2009, 04:57:10 PM
Quote from: Little Monkey Toes on September 11, 2009, 04:55:06 PM
I got replacements for all my medals. 

They sent you medals?
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: zarn02 on September 11, 2009, 04:59:14 PM
My dad requested his records ~6 weeks back and hasn't gotten anything back yet.

Bureaucracy. :P
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: LMT on September 11, 2009, 05:02:04 PM
Quote from: kopfjäger on September 11, 2009, 04:57:10 PM
They sent you medals?

Yes, all the ones I was awarded, 7 total for 4 years of service.
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: Scotzman on September 11, 2009, 05:38:41 PM
If you're in the military you can view your record online. Granted, it's not always up to date
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: superjohn on September 11, 2009, 06:08:18 PM
I am actually requesting my deceased father's records. It'd probably be easier if it were my own.
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: LMT on September 11, 2009, 06:13:31 PM
You can get the seperation papers, medals, and not much else.  Veterans too can only get the seperation papers.  I want my APR's and the actual records.  I know where I served, what rank I was, etc.  It was so long ago, that I want to see what was said my my commander and shop chief said about me.
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: Bick on September 11, 2009, 06:35:31 PM
Quote from: zarn02 on September 11, 2009, 04:59:14 PM
Bureaucracy. :P

About to find out how bad it really is.

I remember trying to get a copy of my DD214 @ a year after I got out. =  [bang] [bang] [bang] then.

Now, after being out for almost 16 years, I am going into the Guard...  Let's just see what it takes to get old records. 
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: LMT on September 11, 2009, 07:08:29 PM
Quote from: Bick on September 11, 2009, 06:35:31 PM
About to find out how bad it really is.

Now, after being out for almost 16 years, I am going into the Guard...  Let's just see what it takes to get old records. 

Wow.  Joining the gurad!  What will that mean for you?  Will you deploy?  What MOS?
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: Rev. Millertime on September 11, 2009, 07:13:13 PM
Goon on ya Bick!

I've been mulling it around for a while myself
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: Bick on September 12, 2009, 03:49:07 AM
Quote from: Little Monkey Toes on September 11, 2009, 07:08:29 PM
Wow.  Joining the gurad!  What will that mean for you?  Will you deploy?  What MOS?

I thought about it several years ago, but by that time I thought I was too old.  Reconnected with a friend of mine who is now O6 at Ft Carson said that with prior service it would not be a problem - almost like I never left.

Going back in as W2

153A - I get to fly again!  The only thing that matters.

If the unit deploys, then yes, I go with them.
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: Bick on September 12, 2009, 03:50:32 AM
Quote from: Rev. Millertime on September 11, 2009, 07:13:13 PM
Goon on ya Bick!

I've been mulling it around for a while myself

I am assuming that you meant good

DO IT!!! DO IT!!! DO IT!!!
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: cyrus buelton on September 12, 2009, 04:33:50 AM
I've thought about it as well, but after three shoulder surgeries, I couldn't pass the physical challenges  :-[
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: Raux on September 12, 2009, 04:58:56 AM
the DD214 request is online now.

the records for someone else requires items like death certificates etc to prove someone is deceased. also, depends on his records. there was a fire in St. Lous a number of years back that destroyed most of the records and the subsequent mess after makes it hard to find older records.

also, you can check with the VA directly if he was a disabled vet.
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: tlloyd66 on September 12, 2009, 07:13:33 AM
Quote from: Raux on September 12, 2009, 04:58:56 AM
the DD214 request is online now.
Really? I have been looking for a way to get my long copy for the past few years- lost JUST that copy, probably when I was trying to get something in/for college. I'll have to give it a look
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: Scotzman on September 12, 2009, 08:57:00 AM
About the DD214-When you seperate, they should give you several originals. I think they have seven of them. They (VA) gives you 4 or 5 and a the others get sent to different places. I know one place is in Tenn, I think one in DC, and who knows the rest. I seperated for a year and came back in and have a bunch of the originals and remember them telling me all this stuff.
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: MendoDave on September 12, 2009, 10:32:46 AM
I did it online and several weeks later I got a CD. to get into it you have to put in a messed up password that has to do with your date of birth and service entry date and some other thing. anyway it didn't work. So I said to hell with it.
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: Raux on September 12, 2009, 01:00:57 PM
http://www1.va.gov/opa/IS1/13.asp (http://www1.va.gov/opa/IS1/13.asp)

i knew someone who put their original DD214 to a safety deposit Box and had some arrangement to get certified copies of it.
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: killaimdie on September 12, 2009, 01:53:18 PM
Lol, the navy doesn't keep records, they just pay a bunch of yoemans to sit around and be pricks.
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: Scotzman on September 12, 2009, 01:55:27 PM
Quote from: killaimdie on September 12, 2009, 01:53:18 PM
Lol, the navy doesn't keep records, they just pay a bunch of yoemans to sit around and be pricks.
+1 [clap]
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: Privateer on September 13, 2009, 09:05:58 PM
Quote from: Raux on September 12, 2009, 04:58:56 AM
the records for someone else requires items like death certificates etc to prove someone is deceased. also, depends on his records. there was a fire in St. Lous a number of years back that destroyed most of the records and the subsequent mess after makes it hard to find older records.


I tried to get my grandfather's records (Bataan survivor) and didn't need a death cert, but his records were destroyed in the same fire. I was pretty disappointed.
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: NAKID on September 14, 2009, 03:19:00 AM
http://www.nvlsp.org/Information/ArticleLibrary/ServiceRecords/MILREC-1973FIRE-LOSTRECORDS.htm (http://www.nvlsp.org/Information/ArticleLibrary/ServiceRecords/MILREC-1973FIRE-LOSTRECORDS.htm)
Title: Re: Anyone ever order a copy of military records?
Post by: Langanobob on September 14, 2009, 03:24:49 AM
Quote from: Raux on September 12, 2009, 01:00:57 PM
http://www1.va.gov/opa/IS1/13.asp (http://www1.va.gov/opa/IS1/13.asp)

i knew someone who put their original DD214 to a safety deposit Box and had some arrangement to get certified copies of it.

I've been using a tattered old non-certified "Xerox" copy of my DD-214 for years and no one has ever questioned or challenged it.  I remember the warning "Don't lose this!" when I got out, but somehow I don't know what happened to the original.