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Title: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: Holden on September 24, 2009, 12:38:52 PM
Just rode through 4 miles of newborn asphalt and the opaque debris cloud that comes with it. My tires are paved...

Last time it was fresh tar snakes. Why the hell would they patch up a road right before they repaved the whole thing?

Took hours in the garage with a putty knife and a can of goof-off. Here we go again... [bang]


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: kopfjäger on September 24, 2009, 12:42:06 PM
Why the hell would they patch up a road right before they repaved the whole thing?

 

They do that so the new asphalt doesn't sink into the old road damage, causing the new road to be make the beast with two backsed up from the start.


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: Holden on September 24, 2009, 12:45:57 PM
They do that so the new asphalt doesn't sink into the old road damage, causing the new road to be make the beast with two backsed up from the start.

Ah... thought they tore up the old road first. :P


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: kopfjäger on September 24, 2009, 12:49:20 PM
Ah... thought they tore up the old road first. :P

Sometimes they scrape them down, but they still repair spots before resurfacing. You could always use another route.  :D


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: Holden on September 24, 2009, 01:01:59 PM
Sometimes they scrape them down, but they still repair spots before resurfacing. You could always use another route.  :D

I seriously have to for the next month or so while they finish up. This is ridiculous... I bet the flagman was laughing at me as he waved me through. [laugh]


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: kopfjäger on September 24, 2009, 01:20:31 PM
I seriously have to for the next month or so while they finish up. This is ridiculous... I bet the flagman was laughing at me as he waved me through. [laugh]

Thats their revenge for working a shit job.  [laugh]


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: booger on September 24, 2009, 03:28:59 PM
Thats their revenge for working a shit job.  [laugh]

a shit job that pays $20/hr


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: ducpainter on September 24, 2009, 04:00:04 PM
a shit job that pays $20/hr
Not where I live.


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: Triple J on September 24, 2009, 05:36:03 PM
Ah... thought they tore up the old road first. :P

Patching cracks in the old road prior to paving is to help prevent what is called "reflection cracking". If there's a crack in the old pavement, one will usually appear in the new pavement at the same location due to poor support of the new pavement at the crack location. The patching is marginally effective, but better than doing nothing.

They should tear up the old road for best results...that costs a lot more $$ though. A 2-inch "overlay" is much cheaper than a new road which would typically have at least 4-inch thick pavement. New roads also have higher demo and subgrade preparation costs.


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: lwszabo on September 25, 2009, 03:17:44 AM
Why didn't you turn around??? [bang]


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: WhiteStripe on September 25, 2009, 04:25:59 AM
I commute to work and there are 4 routes possible.  Two weeks ago ALL Four were ripped up - the highway scraped for 5 miles (no fun) and the route i chose was 2 miles of 1-2" gravel.  It make the beast with two backsing sucked.

Cursed Obama the whole way - guess the good news is nice smooth roads for the rest of the fall season now that some are getting paved.


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: Autostrada Pilot on September 25, 2009, 06:17:06 AM
Blame the "stimulus money".  Same thing for me.....all roads leading to work were torn up at the same time.  Finally, they got 1 of the ways done, so now I have mostly construction free way to work (for a couple more days).


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: mitt on September 25, 2009, 07:02:55 AM
Not where I live.

$40?

mitt


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: somegirl on September 25, 2009, 09:19:44 AM
A friend of mine jokingly speculated that tar snakes are put in as "speed bumps" for motorcycles. :P


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: Holden on September 25, 2009, 02:47:22 PM
Why didn't you turn around??? [bang]

It started out perfectly dry... [moto]

then it got gradually stickier until I saw the smoking trucks ahead and looked down at my tire and it was too late. Boiling frog syndrome...

Single-lane traffic didn't help either, but in retrospect I should have pulled over and waited for it to change directions. Lesson learned!


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: lagerman72 on September 25, 2009, 04:09:07 PM
Just rode through 4 miles of newborn asphalt and the opaque debris cloud that comes with it. My tires are paved...

Last time it was fresh tar snakes. Why the hell would they patch up a road right before they repaved the whole thing?

Took hours in the garage with a putty knife and a can of goof-off. Here we go again... [bang]

You're obviously not in Oklahoma where we grow "pot holes" in the road for fun!  Granted they are starting to fix them but I'd have to say that 98% of them are still terrible and they forgot the curves!!

Hopefully you can scrape your tires, having just gotten new ones myself I can totally feel your pain....


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: Triple J on September 25, 2009, 04:59:58 PM
then it got gradually stickier until I saw the smoking trucks ahead and looked down at my tire and it was too late. Boiling frog syndrome...


I'm surprised they let you drive on it that fast. I've been involved with quite a few paving jobs, and have never seen traffic allowed on asphalt early enough that it would stick to tires. Maybe different DOTs do things differently, but that sounds stupid.  ???


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: DoubleEagle on September 25, 2009, 08:37:16 PM
A friend of mine jokingly speculated that tar snakes are put in as "speed bumps" for motorcycles. :P
P., I hate tar snakes. Some days they are like riding on strips of ice !

Other days when riding into the Sun  with Polarized Sunglasses on they look like a green and blue light show all over the road.

On a cloudy day they are very slippery. Never quite know how to take them at speed.

Dolph


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: ducpainter on September 26, 2009, 03:33:21 AM
$40?

mitt
$9


Title: Re: Don't be a re-tarred!
Post by: Holden on September 26, 2009, 07:25:09 AM
P., I hate tar snakes. Some days they are like riding on strips of ice !

You should try riding with them caked on your tires. [laugh]

It's a surprisingly scary feeling when turning in, and that's just from the changed shape of the tires.

I'll take some photos soon...


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