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Title: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: Travman on September 28, 2009, 04:33:03 PM Supposedly this an all new bike with 85% new parts. The only things I see that are new are the wheels and the integrated turn signals & mirrors. I'm afraid this may be Harley-Davidson's idea of an all new bike.
http://www.motorcycledaily.com/28september09_redesignedmvagustas.htm (http://www.motorcycledaily.com/28september09_redesignedmvagustas.htm) (http://www.motorcycledaily.com/092809top.jpg) Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: kopfjäger on September 28, 2009, 06:01:49 PM What are you afraid of?
Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: orangelion03 on September 28, 2009, 06:11:07 PM Mama mia, thassa nice!!
Sat on a Brutale a few weeks ago, and the rider's view of the tank is heavenly [thumbsup] Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: kopfjäger on September 28, 2009, 06:21:10 PM BRUTALE NEW ERA: 85% of the components are new and were DESIGNED BY MV AGUSTA
There is little left of the old Brutale model, as 85% of the parts have been completely redesigned. From the aesthetics, to the engine, to the rolling chassis, no component can be interchanged with those of the previous versions. Among the new parts: Front wheel rim, either gravity die-cast, or forged Front brake disk Suspensions Internals (oil dynamics and components of the front fork) Instrument cluster (design, logic definition and information handling) Brake pump with integrated tank Headlight Mirrors with directional indicators Handlebar Handgrips Steering damper Fuel pump Fuel filler cap Inner damper (oil dynamics and inside components) Rear swingarm Rear turn signals Taillight Pressure die-cast rear taillight support Rear wheel hub, either gravity die-cast, or forged Many of these parts have been designed and crafted by MV Agusta, rather than sourced from market suppliers, thereby affording technical and aesthetic perfection http://www.mvagustausa.com/web-mvagusta/10_BR_1090RR.html (http://www.mvagustausa.com/web-mvagusta/10_BR_1090RR.html) Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: Triple J on September 28, 2009, 06:34:04 PM Handlebars, grips, turn signals, rear taillight support, etc. all advertised as new items! [laugh] OK
MV Agusta are the kings of trotting out last year's bike with a new paint job every year. I suspect this will be the same unfortunately. Bummer...I'd like to see a new bike from them. Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: spolic on September 29, 2009, 06:02:19 AM The only influence HD could have on that bike is if they added 85% more weight.
Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: teddy037.2 on September 29, 2009, 07:29:06 AM "Using the knowledge gained from a winning tradition of racing excellence with 38 world championship titles and 37 manufacturers' championships alongside motorcycle icon Giacomo Agostini, MV Agusta focused on producing the most versatile Brutale to date,..."
are they winning these days in a series that I don't follow? Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: Travman on September 29, 2009, 08:28:16 AM What are you afraid of? I am skeptical that this is really a new model. It looks and probably is really just more of the same. I don't believe that 85% of the parts are new. I'm afraid that their models will follow the HD pattern of infrequent updates. Don't get me wrong. I think the Brutale is a awesome bike that looks even better in person. Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: teddy037.2 on September 29, 2009, 12:11:57 PM I am skeptical that this is really a new model. It looks and probably is really just more of the same. I don't believe that 85% of the parts are new. well, if you think about it, any change could make a part a 'new' part.... 1mm larger frame tubing, or different alloy, or different weight (or brand) of fork oil, or small tweaks to whatever can certainly be marketed as new Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: mitt on September 29, 2009, 12:32:59 PM well, if you think about it, any change could make a part a 'new' part.... 1mm larger frame tubing, or different alloy, or different weight (or brand) of fork oil, or small tweaks to whatever can certainly be marketed as new switching vendors from xyz to abc can be a new part even without changing the design... mitt Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: teddy037.2 on September 29, 2009, 12:36:02 PM switching vendors from xyz to abc can be a new part even without changing the design... mitt that, too :) Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: Triple J on September 29, 2009, 01:23:26 PM "Using the knowledge gained from a winning tradition of racing excellence with 38 world championship titles and 37 manufacturers' championships alongside motorcycle icon Giacomo Agostini, MV Agusta focused on producing the most versatile Brutale to date,..." are they winning these days in a series that I don't follow? Apparently they won the 2008 Italian SBK Championship. No other actuall racing is mentioned though, other than a failed plan to join the 2008 WSBK. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Agusta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Agusta) Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: kopfjäger on September 29, 2009, 01:46:35 PM I am skeptical that this is really a new model. It looks and probably is really just more of the same. I don't believe that 85% of the parts are new. I'm afraid that their models will follow the HD pattern of infrequent updates. Don't get me wrong. I think the Brutale is a awesome bike that looks even better in person. Are you looking to buy one? Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: caperix on September 29, 2009, 02:01:03 PM Apparently they won the 2008 Italian SBK Championship. No other actuall racing is mentioned though, other than a failed plan to join the 2008 WSBK. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Agusta (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Agusta) They ran in AMA superbike last year with f4's not brutale's. They did OK, I think it was Ferrachi that was running them. Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: csp808 on September 29, 2009, 02:59:39 PM OK? They blew up half the time :)
Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: M900 on September 29, 2009, 03:32:36 PM Meet the new, overpriced, underpowered Suzuki.
Same as the old, overpriced, underpowered Suzuki! Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: LA on September 30, 2009, 02:22:05 PM Supposedly this an all new bike with 85% new parts. The only things I see that are new are the wheels and the integrated turn signals & mirrors. I'm afraid this may be Harley-Davidson's idea of an all new bike. http://www.motorcycledaily.com/28september09_redesignedmvagustas.htm (http://www.motorcycledaily.com/28september09_redesignedmvagustas.htm) (http://www.motorcycledaily.com/092809top.jpg) Man, that's a bad ass scooter. I'd love to have one. LA Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: Travman on September 30, 2009, 03:30:52 PM Are you looking to buy one? Not right now. I am still enjoying my current Monster which is new to me since this May. However, I've always thought these were awesome bikes. This feeling has been intensified since seeing several at my local Ducati shop. Also, I've seen a few for sale locally with very low miles and very reasonable prices. So this has got me thinking about the possibilities. Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: Popeye the Sailor on September 30, 2009, 03:43:12 PM They ride fantastic.
Not impressed with their build quality (at least, on the only one I've been involved with). The reputation for crappiness everyone seems to think Ducati has? It's been accurate for the Brutale. Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: ArguZ on September 30, 2009, 09:48:51 PM I would get that anytime over a Streetfighter..
But 18.000 Eu for a nakid ??? Mama mia [roll] Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: somegirl on October 02, 2009, 06:46:53 AM They ride fantastic. You forgot to mention the binary throttle control. There's about 1 mm position difference between "I ain't got power" and "Holy shit I'm flying off the back of the bike!" :o. Bike is well named. ;) Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: teddy037.2 on October 02, 2009, 07:27:27 AM You forgot to mention the binary throttle control. There's about 1 mm position difference between "I ain't got power" and "Holy shit I'm flying off the back of the bike!" :o. Bike is well named. ;) lol, like the knob in a shower ;) Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: Frosty_spl on October 02, 2009, 10:01:24 AM What are the maintenance costs on the brutales?
Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: Popeye the Sailor on October 02, 2009, 12:02:22 PM What are the maintenance costs on the brutales? We've been doing all the work but so far we've had: Headlight coming out of housing. Mysterious "hitch" at 6k RPM. Took a few trips to the dealer to sort out. That being right smack in the powerband, it sort of sucked to ride. Leaky countershaft seal (requires a large teardown). Still I/P. This has about 15k miles on it so far. Not impressed. Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: DW on October 10, 2009, 05:19:49 AM Pretty neat launch video. Problem is, I don't recognize the guy at the desk... Definately not the guy that penned the lines on this bike. Tamburini, wherefore art thou???
2010 MV Agusta Brutale 990R 1090RR official launch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKWxS0RlMwU#ws-normal) Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: kopfjäger on October 10, 2009, 06:59:05 AM [evil] [thumbsup]
Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: rockaduc on October 10, 2009, 11:45:28 AM What kills me about this bike is that it has less HP and Torque that the 1078 model. It also weighs more...WTF?? >:(
Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: Travman on October 10, 2009, 11:48:18 AM What kills me about this bike is that it has less HP and Torque that the 1078 model. It also weighs more...WTF?? >:( It is the same bike. Somebody at MV Agusta just printed out a different (probably closer to the truth) spec sheet.Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: kingbaby on October 10, 2009, 12:07:57 PM Big manufacturer doing a commercial with guys pullin' wheelies on open roads & goin' out partying.
In the states, it's going through the canyons at the speed limit, and looking "cool" in a parking lot & smiling alot. Gotta love the Euro way of life [thumbsup] (watching this promo video may not be safe for children. Don't watch if you are faint at heart, or you are a teetotaler. do not watch this if you think the product will get you laid. do not ...) ;D Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: rockaduc on October 10, 2009, 12:47:30 PM It is the same bike. Somebody at MV Agusta just printed out a different (probably closer to the truth) spec sheet. huh. I am waiting to see wha they do w/ the triple that is supposed to come out. Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: cshadow2 on October 10, 2009, 06:21:41 PM one of my best friends recently got a 910r and it is ok i guess. the real let down for him i think has been the limited number of things that we can do to it. there is just not much out there for it and what there is is really expensive and hard to get. i think it is very comparable to my s4rs performance wise. so if you have the loot it comes down to what you like.
on a side note there is a guy with a S4 around here that dosent wave to any one (like he is to cool) but i have only seen him riding twice in two years so.... Title: Re: All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010? Post by: Travman on October 14, 2009, 01:14:22 PM A good review from MCN. They almost never hand out 5 stars.
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikereviews/searchresults/Bike-Reviews/MV2/MV-Agusta-Brutale-990R-2009-current/ (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/bikereviews/searchresults/Bike-Reviews/MV2/MV-Agusta-Brutale-990R-2009-current/) |