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Title: My first Monster impression + tips on modifications
Post by: orenjimonster on September 29, 2009, 10:29:26 AM
Hi everybody~
(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs221.snc1/6825_799616290413_3202811_45442837_4720026_n.jpg)
So as you can tell by my huge number of posts and the lack of knowledge of Ducs,, i'm a n00b.
I haven't been riding that long as well (2 yrs but 4 bikes???)
I guess I was looking for the right bike.. 2004 R6--> 2003 RC51 (stolen :'()-->CBR600RR-->S2R
My S2R is my first naked and first Ducati.
I can tell you that the bike is the most comfortable I've ownd so far. The R6 is actually a short second~

So I feel like the handle bars are a little bit too far apart. So just wondering if you guys could point me to some nice clipons thats the same height as stock but maybe a little bit closer toward each other..

The biggest dilemma I have is the exhaust on the bike. i love the dual on one side over the wheel look. But I also like the clean look of no exhaust hanging off the side (a-la ex-box)
So what do I do??? Change the look of the bike completely or go with something louder but still in the same location to keep the spirit of the design..



Title: Re: My first Monster impression + tips on modifications
Post by: redial on September 29, 2009, 10:38:17 AM
HI! welcome to the board and welcome to the ducati sickness!  [evil]

for the record, my monster is also my first nuda, and ill never go back!!!

you have chosen quite a nice mount there. i kinda wish i had held out until i could afford an S2r, but thats a sidestory.

as far as clipons, man there are tons of options out there. i went with some DRIVEN clips, which are very nice, and cheap (150) but they dont have risers, and work best with my forks (gsxr) which stick well out above the triple.

there are so many its hard to list, hopefully someone will chime in with a nice adjustable set with risers. i know lots of people run them. just check your fork size (i think my 750 is 50mm) and then you can google for clipons that size. stopintime has a particularly nice set that mounts below the triple and rises above it. you may want to ask him what brand that is. (or search i know hes said it before but i forget)

rizoma also makes a nice set with a triple, but its $$$ and i dont like how the bars arent the universal slide in type, just my preference.
you could also check out suburban machinery bars, for a nice alternative to clipons that are easier to mount, and retain the high position of stock bars
(http://a48.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/1/l_90b65c1adfd39c7ac6c1041e529df7e7.jpg)

for exhaust..... well id definitely go with what looks the best to you, because you are going to have to live with it, and exhausts for these bikes can be a hefty investment. personally i love the xbox or boom tubes because i like that wheel out there naked and alone for the world to see  ;D

good luck and post pics once the modding begins!!!


Title: Re: My first Monster impression + tips on modifications
Post by: yotogi on September 29, 2009, 10:54:45 AM
First, welcome to the club. Which S2R did you go with? Judging by the color I would guess the 800 (I don't think that the 1000 came in orange) which may actually end up being lucky for you on your second question.

As to the clip-on question:

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21407.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=21407.0)

Here is an interesting discussion between the Swatt 3.5'' and the Speedymoto Tall Boy clipons. Both fit the stock bike well without having to change the triple, although you might need a spacer for the reservoirs, I can't remember if the 800 has pee-cups or coffins. EDIT: OK, so for most clipon options on the 800, you will need a spacer for your reservoirs.

There are a ton of exhaust threads in the Accessories and Mods section of the site.

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=29673.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=29673.0)

That link is to a thread I recently started on options for my S2R1K. A search will yield more. The good news for you is that there are a number of options on the 800 that overlap with the S4R so you should have an easier time with finding what you want. Like Redial mentioned, the exhaust upgrade can be pretty pricy and as you start messing with it you quickly get into the realm of having to sort our fueling.

On that point, if you do have the 800, you are again in luck as you can just go PC3 on top of the stock ECU and tune the hell out of it. Us S2R1K owners get to deal with closed-loop hell. Check out the sticky in the Accessories and Mods section if you want to find out about the bullet you dodged, or (potentially) got hit by.

And again, welcome the the club, you must post pictures.


Title: Re: My first Monster impression + tips on modifications
Post by: orenjimonster on September 29, 2009, 11:51:08 AM
oh here's my orenji S2R~~~ [moto]
(http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs221.snc1/6825_799616290413_3202811_45442837_4720026_n.jpg)

OMG these bars are beautiful!!!
MUST....BUY.... Now...

(http://a48.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/1/l_90b65c1adfd39c7ac6c1041e529df7e7.jpg)


Title: Re: My first Monster impression + tips on modifications
Post by: rockaduc on September 29, 2009, 12:12:34 PM
Welcome.
If you go w/ the Swatt's, pm StopinTime.  He is the Swatt expert around here.

BTW, after you do those and the exhaust, you will be doing the suspension (front and rear) and the front brakes and...it never ends.

The good news is you won't find a cooler place w/ more helpfull people than this forum.  The wealth of information is staggering.  Anything you think you might want to do has probably already been done and documented on here.  Check out the tutorial section for some great how-to lessons.

The other thing is that you MUST post pics of your mods. when you are done.  Nothing exists w/o pics.  If you get stuck on something, first use the search function on that topic.  If that doesn't help, post away and the cavalry will come running.


Title: Re: My first Monster impression + tips on modifications
Post by: teddy037.2 on September 29, 2009, 12:15:58 PM
First, welcome to the club. Which S2R did you go with?

800... coffin masters...  [thumbsup]

iirc, suburbanmachinery.com is the url for those bars  :)

and that's my lil'red pos in the pic


:edit: concerning the SM bars. I'm not too sure how the S*R bars will affect rise, but the 'standard' monster bars are def. lower than stock. these bars were perfect, ergonomically speaking, for me and my rearsets/seat height. YMMV


Title: Re: My first Monster impression + tips on modifications
Post by: orenjimonster on September 29, 2009, 12:22:11 PM
800... coffin masters...  [thumbsup]

iirc, suburbanmachinery.com is the url for those bars  :)

and that's my lil'red pos in the pic


suburban machinery.com is for bmws???
so I guess they fit on Monsters as well???


Title: Re: My first Monster impression + tips on modifications
Post by: teddy037.2 on September 29, 2009, 12:33:19 PM
suburban machinery.com is for bmws???
so I guess they fit on Monsters as well???

they make bars for monsters. it's just that your S2R bars are different from the 'normal' monster bars, which have tubing of identical diameters.

they're a lil'pricey, but are very nice  [thumbsup]


http://www.suburban-machinery.com/ducati2.html (http://www.suburban-machinery.com/ducati2.html)


Title: Re: My first Monster impression + tips on modifications
Post by: orenjimonster on September 29, 2009, 12:36:20 PM
ahh i just found it just now.

Thanks!  [thumbsup]
they make bars for monsters. it's just that your S2R bars are different from the 'normal' monster bars, which have tubing of identical diameters.

they're a lil'pricey, but are very nice  [thumbsup]


http://www.suburban-machinery.com/ducati2.html (http://www.suburban-machinery.com/ducati2.html)


Title: Re: My first Monster impression + tips on modifications
Post by: teddy037.2 on September 29, 2009, 12:36:58 PM
no problemo  [beer]



Title: Re: My first Monster impression + tips on modifications
Post by: stopintime on September 29, 2009, 01:08:37 PM
I wanted more sweep than the SM bars offer, but other than that they are great. Stock is 18 degrees, SM is 24 and other clip ons 30, maybe even 40. Width is the same, but I guess you can cut them - just would have to drill new holes for the controls.
 
I thought the 3.5" inch Swatt clip ons would be the same height as stock, but at the grip they are ~two inches lower. I was surprised and disappointed, but after a while it turned out to be perfect for me - long arms and aggressive body position.

The biggest selling point for the SM bars versus clip ons is that you don't have to paint/grind/SpeedyMoto your top triple and you won't need the $40 MonsterParts coffin spacers.

Exhaust: your bike is Euro 2 which means it will accept "any" slip on exhaust, it requires only affordable minor fuel mixture adjustments. Another story if you also change to open air box and/or cat-/udderfree midpipes. You're still new to your bike - I recommend hanging out for a while, read, search and ask - then decide about exhaust.


Title: Re: My first Monster impression + tips on modifications
Post by: orenjimonster on September 29, 2009, 04:37:47 PM
should i get those clipons that look like their 2 pieces? so I can have more adjustibilities?
(http://www.desmoworks.com/images/08-0053BLK.jpg)
I'm scared that if I get these and don't like the angle i'd be stuck with them...  [coffee]
(http://a48.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/1/l_90b65c1adfd39c7ac6c1041e529df7e7.jpg)


Title: Re: My first Monster impression + tips on modifications
Post by: Spidey on September 29, 2009, 04:56:44 PM
Ask around the local board (scroll down the main page) as to whether anyone has the Subterreanean bars on their monster.  Then you can check 'em out in person.


Title: Re: My first Monster impression + tips on modifications
Post by: stopintime on September 29, 2009, 06:46:37 PM
I mentioned the pros of the SM bars, but it's true that you might not like the sweep angle. You'd might like more sweep. Going from 18 to 24 degrees isn't, IMO, very radical, but they will adjust to your chosen down angle which is equally important. So, a +1 on trying to find one to check out.

The two part clip ons in the picture (SpeedyMoto?) are like most clip ons, but also has bars with a bend in them for a lot more adjustability. MotoWheels have them as a separate item (pair) at $50. They will fit the Swatt (SMP) riser clip ons as well.

 [moto]


Title: Re: My first Monster impression + tips on modifications
Post by: orenjimonster on September 29, 2009, 07:25:13 PM
 [coffee] WOW you guys are super awesome.
DMF is hella helpful! [moto] [moto] [thumbsup]


Title: Re: My first Monster impression + tips on modifications
Post by: redial on September 30, 2009, 04:13:12 AM
should i get those clipons that look like their 2 pieces? so I can have more adjustibilities?
(http://www.desmoworks.com/images/08-0053BLK.jpg)
I'm scared that if I get these and don't like the angle i'd be stuck with them...  [coffee]

just keep in mind if you get something like this 1. you are going to have to figure out how to fork mount them,
and 2 they will probably be dramatically lower than stock,.

the ones you have pictured have NO RISERS which means if you have to mount them below the triple, you are going to be reaching down to the frame basically to steer (sounds hard to me!)

i think the swatts are nice because you can get any height riser you want with them

i have driven, but again i could mount mine ABOVE triple, also i have long arms
(http://gpmotoparts.com/image.php?type=P&id=18349)


Title: Re: My first Monster impression + tips on modifications
Post by: orenjimonster on September 30, 2009, 05:36:26 PM
Thanks for pointing out that it's gonna be dramatically lower! Cuz thats the last thing I want!
I can't wait to go to La Ducati Day and sit on some Monsters if I get a chance~  [moto]
just keep in mind if you get something like this 1. you are going to have to figure out how to fork mount them,
and 2 they will probably be dramatically lower than stock,.

the ones you have pictured have NO RISERS which means if you have to mount them below the triple, you are going to be reaching down to the frame basically to steer (sounds hard to me!)

i think the swatts are nice because you can get any height riser you want with them

i have driven, but again i could mount mine ABOVE triple, also i have long arms
(http://gpmotoparts.com/image.php?type=P&id=18349)


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