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Title: how the lower triple should look Post by: angler on October 19, 2009, 09:23:10 AM I ground the forging/casting marks off the lower triple in prep for some black powder coat and thought I would share. It took about an hour.
120 grit flap disc - perfect for removal. Fast and the sanding scratches weren't too deep 220 grit random orbit sander 1500 grit hand wet sand to remove scratch marks (400 would have been fine, but I didn't have any) (http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs266.snc1/9332_1217846976734_1545666740_568948_866586_n.jpg) (http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs266.snc1/9332_1217847016735_1545666740_568949_5425101_n.jpg) (http://photos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs246.snc1/9332_1217847056736_1545666740_568950_8218545_n.jpg) Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: Raux on October 19, 2009, 09:31:22 AM thanks for that.
i need to start smoothing out all the castings on my 696. Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: RB on October 19, 2009, 10:05:15 AM did the same, i think i finished mine with 220, once powder coated there were no marks. If you hit it with 1200 (and it looks great) why not just clear it, or leave it? Prolly a stupid question since i figure you are looking for the dark side of finishes for your ride.
Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: junior varsity on October 19, 2009, 10:12:39 AM If you are going for a different color, you could always think about upgrading! ;)
There's the costly SpeedyMoto unit, and there's also the IMA SrL lowers (about $280+shipping) (or complete kits - $450+shipping). Example: (http://www.imasrl.com/Ita/Images/special-parts%20(16).jpg) Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: DucHead on October 19, 2009, 10:45:02 AM Yup, I did mine a while ago.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/pompino/DSCN1702_1.jpg) The dull finish and cast lines looked terrible next to the Cycle Cat bling top triple. Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: junior varsity on October 19, 2009, 10:49:23 AM I've always wanted to improve the lower triple. I have at long last found a solution for such:
(http://www.imasrl.com/Ita/Images/special-parts%20(15).jpg) (http://www.imasrl.com/Ita/Images/special-parts%20(1).jpg) Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: junior varsity on October 19, 2009, 10:50:59 AM Your other option for the 02+ bikes is the speedymoto unit, but i do not want to shell out that kind of jingle, at this time.
Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: angler on October 19, 2009, 10:56:04 AM did the same, i think i finished mine with 220, once powder coated there were no marks. If you hit it with 1200 (and it looks great) why not just clear it, or leave it? Prolly a stupid question since i figure you are looking for the dark side of finishes for your ride. I am going for the darkness. Having just got back from my powder coater, he said the same thing. By the time he gets done media blasting, 220 scratches are gone. Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: angler on October 19, 2009, 10:57:33 AM Yup, I did mine a while ago. (http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/pompino/DSCN1702_1.jpg) The dull finish and cast lines looked terrible next to the Cycle Cat bling top triple. Nice! I thought about the polished look........but it won't work with dark look. Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: Ducatl on October 19, 2009, 01:51:46 PM Nice, did the same before I PC'ed mine.
If you are going for a different color, you could always think about upgrading! ;) There's the costly SpeedyMoto unit, and there's also the IMA SrL lowers (about $280+shipping) (or complete kits - $450+shipping). Where have you found these, don't think I've ever heard of them. Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: junior varsity on October 19, 2009, 02:07:46 PM been around for quite awhile, www.imasrl.com (http://)
I'm in the midst of working out details on a set for my 1999 Monster 900, which uses a different steering stem than what is on the 02+ Monsters. (They have accommodations for both). They'll do different diameters for your forks as well, such as 50/54 (OEM), 53/53 (Showa SBK), and 53/56 (Ohlins SBK). One Caveat, if you have a trick CycleCat top triple, on an older gen Monster (pre-02) with the narrow steering stem, then you'll lose the ability to keep that sucka. The triple trees are 30mm offsets, same as the 02+ OEM offset size, which is a difference from what seems to be a 25mm offset on the pre-02 bikes. This should lead to a more stable feeling, but a little more reluctance in initiating the turn-in. This looks like it can be easily compensated for, if one desired, by raising the rear ride height. For the 02+ Monster Owners, the offset is the same as factory, so you could order just the lower and use your CycleCat or SpeedyMoto top triple and go about your business. Their top triples look gooood, though aren't all skeletal, so you might still want to order a complete set. Really a great idea for those guys that are sticking with a single bar, rather than going to clip-ons (aka half-handlebars, as they refer to them). I'll post up much much more about my dealings with the company after I send payment (this week) and receive product (very shortly thereafter) Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: junior varsity on October 19, 2009, 02:08:04 PM Oh. And pictures. Of course I'll post pictures.
Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: Rameses on October 19, 2009, 06:22:53 PM I ground the forging/casting marks off the lower triple in prep for some black powder coat and thought I would share. This look is Rameses approved. [thumbsup] (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3454/3362246786_1ae234de5c_b.jpg) Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: junior varsity on October 19, 2009, 06:38:57 PM Where does a person start with that picture?? Clearly a hypermotard, blacked out parts... Speedymoto sticker in background, pitbull or similar stand, grandma's rug, yellow tie down, wait! Grandma's rug?
Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: ducatiz on October 19, 2009, 06:44:38 PM Where does a person start with that picture?? Clearly a hypermotard, blacked out parts... Speedymoto sticker in background, pitbull or similar stand, grandma's rug, yellow tie down, wait! Grandma's rug? [laugh] [laugh] ok, where is the sticker? Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: junior varsity on October 19, 2009, 07:21:31 PM On the ground, in orange, on a red shop rag, on grandma's rug.
Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: Rameses on October 19, 2009, 07:27:03 PM Where does a person start with that picture?? Clearly a hypermotard, blacked out parts... Speedymoto sticker in background, pitbull or similar stand, grandma's rug, yellow tie down, wait! Grandma's rug? [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] Yeah, Pompetta's garage is a pretty plush joint for working on bikes. [thumbsup] (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3573/3364913722_9b9d73f96e_b.jpg) Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: junior varsity on October 19, 2009, 07:31:05 PM The only thing I see is the elephant graveyard of monster tail chop parts.
Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: ducatiz on October 20, 2009, 05:13:22 AM On the ground, in orange, on a red shop rag, on grandma's rug. [laugh] if it was a snake.... Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: Statler on October 20, 2009, 11:44:58 AM (http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd110/grumpylawyer/statler.jpg)
Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: junior varsity on October 20, 2009, 01:46:51 PM This was hilarious the first time you posted it. Still funny. Grumpin' from the balcony.
Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: Spidey on October 20, 2009, 01:57:42 PM Not much to add here other than a pic of a grind-down and powdercoated stock lower triple:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3078/2665683489_29c964c24c_b.jpg) (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/2832242706_fe39b667b6_o.jpg) Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: Statler on October 20, 2009, 02:49:51 PM That's awesome, Spidey. Amazing what making all the parts match does for the bike.
Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: DucHead on October 21, 2009, 01:50:41 AM There should be a board rule that everytime Spidey posts he must include a pic of his dash/triple/bar setup. ;D
Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: Spidey on October 22, 2009, 11:21:14 AM That's awesome, Spidey. Amazing what making all the parts match does for the bike. Thanks. Yeah, the powercoating helps to unify the look, and thankfully, isn't so overdone so that it's too overpowering (IMO). We could have gotten away with having more pieces powdercoating had it been done black, but that particular grey stands out a lot. For a long time, I really didn't like the look of the stock triples on the pre-696/1100 monsters, and always thought the lower should be much more burly (like the ones Alex Ortner did before Speedymoto started making 'em). Until Stew did mine, I didn't realize how much of that dislike was because of all the casting. Ground down they look pretty good IMO. Still, for aircooled bikes I'd rather see a ground lower and for liquid cooled, a burly billet lower. The chunkier lower fits better with the radiator and with the forks (especially the gold ones) from the liquid cooled bikes. Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: angler on October 22, 2009, 12:15:33 PM Hard to follow the gray beauty, but here is a post powder pic.
(http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs261.snc1/8830_1220440681575_1545666740_575130_1074723_n.jpg) Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: Bill in OKC on October 22, 2009, 01:34:32 PM I plan to get SpeedyMoto triples this Winter - Santa has been notified. It sounds like all of the Ducati forks are the same diameter. Can someone confirm that the standard triples fit both Showas and Ohlins? I'm asking because on the Aprilia they are different. They only list one triple on the SpeedyMoto website - I think. Thanks.
Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: junior varsity on October 22, 2009, 01:44:48 PM You need to check your forks with a caliper. Most Monster forks are 50mm / 54mm (upper/lower diameters).
Showa SBK forks are 53/53 Ohlins SBK forks are 53/56 Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: Spidey on October 22, 2009, 02:48:01 PM Hard to follow the gray beauty, but here is a post powder pic. [thumbsup] Watch the PC on the edges of the holes to make sure they don't scratch the hell out of your forks. Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: angler on October 22, 2009, 02:58:09 PM [thumbsup] Watch the PC on the edges of the holes to make sure they don't scratch the hell out of your forks. Good tip. Since the pic, I have trimmed all that over powder off with a utility blade. I am a bit concerned about that. I have some SBK forks annodized black and I REALLY don't want any install scratches. I had planned to do this work myself, but I have been sitting on the forks for like 9 months and I can't seem to find the time. Instead, I'm letting the place that is replacing my tank do the install. They have a great rep with customs, so hopefully the forks will be OK. Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: Rameses on October 23, 2009, 10:45:34 AM Spidey beat me to, but I'll reiterate. You said you took off all the the excess powder, but make sure you got ALL of it. Luckily I was wrapping my forks in vinyl, so it didn't matter, but it doesn't take much to put a really noticeable scratch in them. I think I remember someone saying it helps to wrap a piece of wax paper around the fork and slide that with the triple. Then when the triple is roughly where you want it, it's not very hard to slip the paper out and adjust the final position of the triple. Make sure to post pics once it's all back together. Those triples look great with the PC. [thumbsup] Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: Duck-Stew on October 23, 2009, 10:52:46 AM Thanks for the comments on Spidey's bike guys... [thumbsup]
The only thing I have to add is this: Chase ALL holes on ANY parts after they're P-coated. I broke a bolt off in a lower triple on a customers bike once. TOTAL pregnant dog to get it out and it could've easily been avoided if I wasn't so hard-headed that day. Oh well, I hope my experience helps someone else avoid a similar fate. [thumbsup] Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: angler on October 23, 2009, 11:05:47 AM Great. Now I'm all paranoid that DucPond will effe up my shit......
I hate having other people do my work..... Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: junior varsity on November 18, 2009, 08:04:17 AM Making a little contribution to the lower triple thread:
(https://lh5.ggpht.com/_4iYlZ1m8UEM/SwNLbkSnVBI/AAAAAAAAEsY/Yk13o-wZkDw/s800/IMG_1871.JPG) Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: junior varsity on November 18, 2009, 08:17:31 AM (https://lh5.ggpht.com/_4iYlZ1m8UEM/SwNLXNMBSXI/AAAAAAAAEr4/zidH2m_lt8s/s800/IMG_1855.JPG)
Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: junior varsity on November 18, 2009, 08:18:19 AM Upper and lower installed (crappy quality, but gives the right idea):
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_4iYlZ1m8UEM/SwCwaK__sEI/AAAAAAAAEpw/aZ1mxRONejM/s800/progress.jpg) Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: junior varsity on November 18, 2009, 08:18:58 AM (http://lh6.ggpht.com/_4iYlZ1m8UEM/SupCffj6QlI/AAAAAAAAEao/lPBf2PAG48k/s800/IMG_1680.JPG)
Pre-installation. Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: terrapete on November 20, 2009, 02:34:35 PM Angler, that's the way to go for sure. I did the same with the stock triples, but now find myself having the mod bug again. I had a friend make these...yet to get coated black. [thumbsup](http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/rr214/terrapete1/HPIM1552.jpg)
Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: TAftonomos on November 20, 2009, 03:38:20 PM I want some made out of magnesium. I happen to have a pair of ingots plenty large enough to make 2 sets. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: DucHead on November 20, 2009, 04:18:46 PM I want some made out of magnesium. I happen to have a pair of ingots plenty large enough to make 2 sets. [thumbsup] [laugh] [laugh] Man, you got the sickness!! [thumbsup] [laugh] [laugh] Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: djrashonal on November 20, 2009, 07:00:23 PM [laugh] [laugh] Man, you got the sickness!! [thumbsup] [laugh] [laugh] and the only perscription is more (http://seoblog.intrapromote.com/more_cowbell.jpg) Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: DRKWNG on November 30, 2009, 10:20:25 PM As far as triples go, here is the set-up that I used on my SC. During mock-up:
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC_0003-1.jpg) (http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC_0005-1.jpg) And then during fitting: (http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC_0011-1.jpg) (http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC_0017-1.jpg) (http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/DSC_0018-1.jpg) Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: angler on December 04, 2009, 05:29:16 AM Wishing I hadn't started this thread now 'cause I want different triples.....
Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: DRKWNG on December 04, 2009, 05:34:46 AM New stuff is always a good idea...
Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: Bill in OKC on December 04, 2009, 11:59:31 AM When you find yourself spending more time modifying than riding, it sucks or something.
Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: corey on February 13, 2010, 11:11:24 AM Wishing I hadn't started this thread now 'cause I want different triples..... sometimes you just have to draw the line on how much you spend on a certain section of the bike :) the stock triples are fine, otherwise they wouldn't be using them. i was so close to buying some IMA's, but would rather invest in some even better suspension components... which i did. your stock ones cleaned up and p/c'd black look awesome. i'm going that route too, but possibly a gunmetal color p/c Title: Re: how the lower triple should look Post by: TAftonomos on February 14, 2010, 02:46:52 AM When you find yourself spending more time modifying than riding, it sucks or something. Nah, you just buy moar scooters so you can mod one all the time [laugh] |