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Title: Monster 696 Mirror Options - FOLLOW UP w/ Bar-End Mirrors
Post by: DucaChic on October 27, 2009, 05:19:58 AM
[clap] Thanks everyone who voted and/or posted comments. [clap]

I have been considering replacing the Stock Mirrors on my 696 which raises the question, "Which Mirrors Look Best".  I am considering several Rizoma designs and more recently the CRG Hindsight mirrors (please vote). Sizes are approximate based on available information.
Any Additional feedback from anyone with any real-life experience using any of these designs is certainly appreciated. Thanks! [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options
Post by: Raux on October 27, 2009, 09:32:24 AM
form vs function. honestly if your scales are correct... the stock will function better. but the radial nakeds are pretty cool.


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options
Post by: stopintime on October 27, 2009, 02:01:38 PM
The Class Retro bar end mirrors can be mounted quite high, if that's your consern.

A few of the Rizomas aren't convex glass mirrors. If so, the view is limited by the flat glass

A few of the Rizomas are also made in a "Sport" version, which have longer stems/arms (20-30mm).






Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options
Post by: stopintime on October 27, 2009, 03:42:02 PM
Thanks for the input stopintime; I'll be sure to look further into convex mirror designs. As for the longer arms, good recommendation; but I am looking for a design/solution that is NOT wider than the bars.


I understand about the bar/mirror width consideration. I'm just thinking that you have wide mirrors which give a good rear view and you might get disappointed when you end up with not such a good rear view. If you want to try how it'll be like - measure the width of the stockers compared to the Rizomas, tape off the excess stock mirror surface and see how it works.


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options
Post by: Howellerman on October 27, 2009, 04:08:09 PM
Really excellent question! I too am looking at replacing the stock mirrors, and have liked the Rizoma Radials. I believe Ungehaur had them on his Monster, but with gold stems (if I recall correctly). Looked pretty good at any rate.

I find the other Rizoma mirror versions that you posted to be just too small - it would take concentration to pick up an image versus just glancing at the larger mirrors.

I also moved all my controls inboard by 1", and lopped off the difference to narrow my bars. So, given your Photoshop images it appears I may purchase a very good view of my elbows. Given that the Monster makes me into a bit of a hooligan, having a clear view to the rear is good!


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options
Post by: Holden on October 27, 2009, 09:24:29 PM
I use Oberons for money reasons, but I will always lust after the Radial Naked mirror...


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - UPDATED
Post by: JEFF_H on October 28, 2009, 08:51:01 AM
I think the  crgs will give you the clearest view past your arms.
if you look at your pics you can see they are the only ones not obscured by your arms.
may also want to include the Rizoma Class Retro and Reverse Retro if you are open to bar-ends

(you are really good at photoshop btw. )


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - UPDATED
Post by: mrplease on October 28, 2009, 09:40:35 AM
i love my rizoma retro mirrors!

oh, btw cool plate!

heres a few pics of my mirrors and how they look on the bike... now i have mine angled down quite a bit. you can raise them up a lot and improve visibility, but i can see fine with mine like this and i think it looks way better...

but if you've got it narrowed down to the ones you have above, i think the rimoza circuit mirrors looks the best out of those.

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/mrpleaseplease/monster/36.jpg)

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/mrpleaseplease/monster/31.jpg)

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh68/mrpleaseplease/monster/IMG_3359.jpg)


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - UPDATED
Post by: Raux on October 28, 2009, 10:35:46 AM
mrplease,

Appreciate the photos and input.

Which Rimoza bar ends did you use with the Rizoma Retro mirrors?

Also, on a separate topic, I read in the forum about your Canister Removal and Left Side Shroud installation and would like to get more information from you (steps to remove canister, plug hoses, where you purchased shroud from). Please PM me.

there are several threads with good directions a good search helps on this one cause it's been a while. the left side shroud can be bought from motowheels.


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - UPDATED
Post by: DucaChic on October 28, 2009, 11:00:43 AM
Raux,

Yes there are many posts. Your comments in particular on mrplease's inquiry and others were noted.

Unfortunately, Motowheels does not currently have the left euro shroud available.


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - UPDATED
Post by: Raux on October 28, 2009, 11:22:47 AM
Raux,

Yes there are many posts. Your comments in particular on mrplease's inquiry and others were noted.

Unfortunately, Motowheels does not currently have the left euro shroud available.

uh. ok . so i took you for someone who asks without searching. sorry. you just need order the part number 484.1.069.1A from a ducati dealer.


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - UPDATED
Post by: Holden on October 28, 2009, 11:30:07 AM
I had mrplease's setup at first. Then I had a tip-over, and it would have been $154 to replace one mirror and one bar end. I ended up getting two Oberon Streetfighters instead ($50 each for a bar-end/mirror unit). Not the best visibility, but it's something to keep in mind (if you drop the bike, you will most likely need to replace a mirror and a bar-end—even the Radials, Dynamics and Circuits will hit the ground, and you will be replacing these expensive mirrors at the same time you're paying for other damage to the bike).

If money isn't and will never be an issue, I change my vote to the Prototype Naked!
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=11291.0 (http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=11291.0)


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - UPDATED
Post by: DucaChic on October 28, 2009, 12:46:25 PM
Raux,

Very helpful on the Ducati part number... much appreciated.

Called my dealer, they can get it for $19.


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - UPDATED
Post by: mrplease on October 29, 2009, 12:19:31 PM
mrplease,

Appreciate the photos and input.

Which Rimoza bar ends did you use with the Rizoma Retro mirrors?

Also, on a separate topic, I read in the forum about your Canister Removal and Left Side Shroud installation and would like to get more information from you (steps to remove canister, plug hoses, where you purchased shroud from). Please PM me.

Rizoma Bar Ends part number MA506

i got them from pj's parts...

http://www.pjsparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=178 (http://www.pjsparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=178)


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - UPDATED
Post by: Raux on October 29, 2009, 12:21:39 PM
Raux,

Very helpful on the Ducati part number... much appreciated.

Called my dealer, they can get it for $19.

if you go to ducati.com and download the euro part catalog you can see how they do it without the emission canister


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - UPDATED
Post by: DucaChic on October 29, 2009, 06:18:58 PM
Raux,

Did just that. Thanks again. Very helpful.


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - UPDATED
Post by: orangelion03 on November 02, 2009, 08:58:34 AM
Another mirror option...

Someone suggested FAR mirrors to me while I was looking for a set of 696 mirrors.  I may be ordering a set of these:
http://www.moto-science.com/product/73805/Ducati-Folding-Mirrors-225-325mm-Adj-Stems--Pair_330266.html (http://www.moto-science.com/product/73805/Ducati-Folding-Mirrors-225-325mm-Adj-Stems--Pair_330266.html)



Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - UPDATED
Post by: Dano on November 02, 2009, 08:15:34 PM
I just put a set of Monstrack mirrors on my 695. I think they look fantastic, and they have 3 lengths to choose from for best personal visibility. I don't know if they are compatible with the 696 but you might want to look at them. monstrack.com


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - UPDATED
Post by: orangelion03 on November 03, 2009, 04:33:08 AM
I just put a set of Monstrack mirrors on my 695... monstrack.com

Thanks for that tip Dano!!  I like those!  A bit pricier than I wanted to pay, but at least you get a PAIR of well crafted mirrors for the cost of a single Rizoma.


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - UPDATED
Post by: DucaChic on November 03, 2009, 05:46:46 AM
[clap] Thanks everyone who voted and/or posted comments. [clap]

When I started this evaluation, I didn't think I would want to use bar-end mirrors (aka CRG LS). However, further discussion and evaluation has prompted me to reconsider. I really like the way my bike looks without any mirrors and the bar-end style support that aesthetic better than other designs. As a result, I took the advice of a member here and have ordered a pair of the (cheap) "Third Eye" bar-end mirrors in order to test how I like the bar-end mirror location.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001600YZ4/ref=ox_ya_oh_product (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001600YZ4/ref=ox_ya_oh_product)

At first I suspect I will test them with my stock mirrors in place and then again without my stock mirrors. This way I will know for certain if the bar-end style works well for me. ;)

Look for more to come at the conclusion of my field test.


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - FOLLOW UP w/ Bar-End Mirrors
Post by: DucaChic on November 08, 2009, 10:02:44 AM
Field Tested the inexpensive Third-Eye Bar-End Mirrors this weekend.

I must admit, after several hours on the road with them, I was pleasantly surprised how good they looked and how well they performed. For a person who was originally dead set against Bar-End Mirrors, I found the Convex design and far left and right location to provide excellent visual coverage behind me. Initially I did have to get use to the new location, but I found over time that the wider field of view in these mirrors provided a lot of information with just a glance. I didn't have to "look" for what was around me, I could quickly "see" it.

As the optimum riding season is quickly drawing to a close, I think I will keep these inexpensive alternatives mounted for now and replace them with the CRG LS come Spring. I am thinking that the adjustable CRG Shortys would be an excellent complementary addition also.


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - FOLLOW UP w/ Bar-End Mirrors
Post by: JPJ on November 09, 2009, 03:35:29 AM
I just ordered Rizoma Ellisse mirrors - in two tone


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - FOLLOW UP w/ Bar-End Mirrors
Post by: DucinKtown on November 09, 2009, 11:55:36 AM
HI Ducgirl,

I have the CRG's and love em, I just wish I was in Florida so I could be riding now, my bike away till March.

I have no regrets with em.

Enjoy

Russ


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - FOLLOW UP w/ Bar-End Mirrors
Post by: Holden on November 09, 2009, 07:07:56 PM
I just wish I was in Florida so I could be riding now

FL has curved roads? [cheeky]


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - FOLLOW UP w/ Bar-End Mirrors
Post by: DucinKtown on November 10, 2009, 12:36:38 PM
Fl and curved roads, nope, I don't think so, but Hey i could be wrong.

I guess you can say I'm lucky to live in the mountains of western Canada, great twisties.

But when its -20 and snowing, Florida looks real good with flat straight roads.


Russ


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - FOLLOW UP w/ Bar-End Mirrors
Post by: Venom51 on November 11, 2009, 09:29:05 AM
Just throwing in my 2 cents. I got the CRG Lane Splitters and love them.



Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - FOLLOW UP w/ Bar-End Mirrors
Post by: DucaChic on November 11, 2009, 02:13:06 PM
Even though the polling has closed, I appreciate the ongoing feedback.

Thanks! [thumbsup]


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - FOLLOW UP w/ Bar-End Mirrors
Post by: Tommysurfs on November 12, 2009, 12:41:24 PM
I did the same thing you're doing with the 3rd eye mirrors.  After a while, I realized that they really work very well and I decided to keep them instead of dropping all that $$$ on crg's.  I 'd rather spend the $$$ on tires, but that's just me.


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - FOLLOW UP w/ Bar-End Mirrors
Post by: COP TZR on January 07, 2010, 06:31:13 PM
I did the same thing you're doing with the 3rd eye mirrors.  After a while, I realized that they really work very well and I decided to keep them instead of dropping all that $$$ on crg's.  I 'd rather spend the $$$ on tires, but that's just me.

Are the 3rd eye mirrors made from plastic and do they have a convex mirror?  Are they foldable, and do they vibrate alot blurring the image behind you?

thanks


Title: Re: Monster 696 Mirror Options - FOLLOW UP w/ Bar-End Mirrors
Post by: herm on January 08, 2010, 03:16:39 AM
for anyone on the fence about the crg mirrors, they have additional benefits.

last spring i had a low speed get off, and not only did the CRG survive, but it acted almost like a frame slider, holding my bike just far enough off the ground to avoid any damage to the tank (mixed blessing now that i think about it)

anyway......cheers!


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