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Title: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: roy-nexus-6 on November 10, 2009, 04:04:59 PM
Possibly the worst pseudo-scienctific justificaiton for homeopathy I ever seen. 2100 comments to date - all of them flaming.  [popcorn]

Come for the stupid, stay for the controversy.

Homeopathy with Dr. Werner (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0c5yClip4o#normal)
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: teddy037.2 on November 10, 2009, 04:26:46 PM
 :o

my brain shut off by 2:00, but kept watching and hearing in that 'rubberneck at the accident' sort of way
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Grampa on November 10, 2009, 04:31:35 PM
XTC - We're All Light (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEu5PkGBHRc#normal)
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: teddy037.2 on November 10, 2009, 04:36:39 PM
that song reminded me of one of my favorite bill nye quotes- stars and people are made of the same stuff  :)
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Grampa on November 10, 2009, 04:38:03 PM
Quote from: teddy037.2 on November 10, 2009, 04:36:39 PM
that song reminded me of one of my favorite bill nye quotes- stars and people are made of the same stuff  :)

some are are just a lil more gassy  [cheeky]
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: teddy037.2 on November 10, 2009, 04:49:43 PM
Quote from: bobspapa on November 10, 2009, 04:38:03 PM
some are are just a lil more gassy  [cheeky]

lol

I heart lame science jokes  :)
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: NAKID on November 10, 2009, 05:12:46 PM
Someone gave her a license to practice medicine?
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Monsterlover on November 10, 2009, 05:14:20 PM
I listened to the whole video, but zoned out pretty quickly.

After that, all I could pay attention to was the word "ok" because she said it about 2000 times [laugh]

I feel less smrt now.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Monsterlover on November 10, 2009, 05:15:48 PM
Quote from: Mr. Exact on November 10, 2009, 05:12:46 PM
Someone gave her a license to practice medicine?

They're letting you have one right?

;)

Seriously though, I don't think you two are on the same level
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: il d00d on November 10, 2009, 05:27:19 PM
Stephen Hawking.  That is singular, crazy lady. 

Other than that, there was absolutely wrong with anything she said.  Because she is a...?  An eye doctor, an eye doctor.   And eye doctors are ...? Physics scientists, right?  And physics science is ...?   The science of physics, that's right!

Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: He Man on November 10, 2009, 05:29:53 PM
holy crap e=mc^2 is e=c^2 cause limit m/mtotal = 0!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think we just solve one of sciences greatest mysteres.... where all the shit that gets sucked into a black hole comes out of.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Monsterlover on November 10, 2009, 05:38:12 PM
Oh don't forget all the matter in the universe can be compressed to a clump the size of a bowling ball :D

is she a Heaven's Gate survivor?
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: teddy037.2 on November 10, 2009, 05:40:50 PM
I don't recall a single mention of comets  ;)
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: pennyrobber on November 10, 2009, 06:21:48 PM
I don't even think she believed the crap she was shoveling.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Randimus Maximus on November 10, 2009, 06:57:57 PM
I occasionally buy bagels from Einstein.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: desmopr on November 10, 2009, 07:00:16 PM
Quote from: pennyrobber on November 10, 2009, 06:21:48 PM
I don't even think she believed the crap she was shoveling.

Ohh she believed it....
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Grampa on November 10, 2009, 07:02:51 PM
my balls are my universe too
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Randimus Maximus on November 10, 2009, 07:07:23 PM
Quote from: bobspapa on November 10, 2009, 07:02:51 PM
my balls are my universe too

but apparently, they have no mass...or do they??
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Grampa on November 10, 2009, 07:16:05 PM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 10, 2009, 07:07:23 PM
but apparently, they have no mass...or do they??

last I checked....no  [laugh]
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: He Man on November 10, 2009, 07:59:19 PM
Quote from: bobspapa on November 10, 2009, 07:16:05 PM
last I checked....no  [laugh]

By einsteins theory of relativity

If it has no mass, it must be able to move at the speed of light. That means you have lightspeed balls.


Thats pretty make the beast with two backsing impressive.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: teddy037.2 on November 10, 2009, 08:04:29 PM
Quote from: He Man on November 10, 2009, 07:59:19 PM
By einsteins theory of relativity

If it has no mass, it must be able to move at the speed of light. That means you have lightspeed balls.


Thats pretty make the beast with two backsing impressive.

but if mass=0, wouldn't that mean that BP's balls have no energy?
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: He Man on November 10, 2009, 08:07:19 PM
the sun makes a lot of photons that have no mass, but they have enough energy to control all life on earth.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: teddy037.2 on November 10, 2009, 08:09:43 PM
Quote from: He Man on November 10, 2009, 08:07:19 PM
the sun makes a lot of photons that have no mass, but they have enough energy to control all life on earth.

and that's prolly why I paid more attention to chems and bio in school  ;)
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: He Man on November 10, 2009, 08:34:43 PM
Quote from: teddy037.2 on November 10, 2009, 08:09:43 PM
and that's prolly why I paid more attention to chems and bio in school  ;)

be glad that you did. higher level physics will make you want to commit suicide. You lose all sense of reality because it destroys your grasp of time space as you see it.

All your wave functions belongs to us!
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: teddy037.2 on November 10, 2009, 08:38:15 PM
Quote from: He Man on November 10, 2009, 08:34:43 PM
be glad that you did. higher level physics will make you want to commit suicide. You lose all sense of reality because it destroys your grasp of time space as you see it.

All your wave functions belongs to us!

LOLz
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: El Matador on November 10, 2009, 08:42:31 PM
Quote from: He Man on November 10, 2009, 08:34:43 PM
be glad that you did. higher level physics will make you want to commit suicide. You lose all sense of reality because it destroys your grasp of time space as you see it.

All your wave functions belongs to us!

[bang] [bang] [bang]

(Writing this from the school library. Test tomorrow)
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: roy-nexus-6 on November 11, 2009, 12:31:44 AM
Quote from: He Man on November 10, 2009, 08:34:43 PM
All your wave functions belongs to us!

Certainly the quote of this thread - bravo!  [beer]
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: herm on November 11, 2009, 02:35:47 AM
Quote from: Monsterlover on November 10, 2009, 05:14:20 PM
I listened to the whole video, but zoned out pretty quickly.

After that, all I could pay attention to was the word "ok" because she said it about 2000 times [laugh]

I feel less smrt now.

thank you for saving me some aggravation. [beer]
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: erkishhorde on November 11, 2009, 03:41:45 AM
Quote from: He Man on November 10, 2009, 07:59:19 PM
By einsteins theory of relativity

If it has no mass, it must be able to move at the speed of light. That means you have lightspeed balls.


Thats pretty make the beast with two backsing impressive.
Quote from: teddy037.2 on November 10, 2009, 08:04:29 PM
but if mass=0, wouldn't that mean that BP's balls have no energy?

Na, that would mean that BP is is a quick finisher.  :P

Can anyone explain to me what she is trying to explain? I mean, what's the bottom line? I still don't get what homeopathy is. I admit that I didn't listen to the whole thing and kinda zoned out after she said e=mc^2 for the 20th time in the first 3 minutes. What kinda nutter thinks that all the mass in the universe can be condensed into the size of a bowling ball? That'd have to be crazy dense.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: KnightofNi on November 11, 2009, 04:52:17 AM
Quote from: erkishhorde on November 11, 2009, 03:41:45 AM
Na, that would mean that BP is is a quick finisher.  :P

Can anyone explain to me what she is trying to explain? I mean, what's the bottom line? I still don't get what homeopathy is. I admit that I didn't listen to the whole thing and kinda zoned out after she said e=mc^2 for the 20th time in the first 3 minutes. What kinda nutter thinks that all the mass in the universe can be condensed into the size of a bowling ball? That'd have to be crazy dense.

i watched a show on the science channel and another on the history channel (with a rather attractive lady who works at the JPL) that kind of explained it.

it's a rather hard concept to grasp, but the gravity that all the matter in the universe has combined would allow all of the matter to squeeze down on itself thus making it tiny. and yes, very very dense. of course when a star does this it has the tendency to form a black hole, but then again how do we know our universe didn't start from a black hole?

i have yet to watch the video, but from the responses here i'm guessing it is a very well thought out explaination. i'll need a good laugh when i get home. maybe it will replace that whole unifying theory thing too.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Grampa on November 11, 2009, 04:53:45 AM
m=bp squared
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: ducpainter on November 11, 2009, 05:00:22 AM
All the rocket scientists physicists in this thread should realize you can superscript e=mc^2...

with a mouse click.

like this...e=mc2 ;)

but I guess not. :-\
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Monsterlover on November 11, 2009, 05:41:40 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on November 11, 2009, 05:00:22 AM
All the rocket scientists physicists in this thread should realize you can superscript e=mc^2...

with a mouse click.

like this...e=mc2 ;)

but I guess not. :-\

You should change your name to Mr. Exact2

;D
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: He Man on November 11, 2009, 05:44:53 AM
Quote from: KnightofNi on November 11, 2009, 04:52:17 AM
but from the responses here i'm guessing it is a very well thought out explaination. i'll need a good laugh when i get home. maybe it will replace that whole unifying theory thing too.


its well thought out....but so are perpetual motion machines. that doesnt mean they actually work.

Quote from: Monsterlover on November 11, 2009, 05:41:40 AM
You should change your name to Mr. Exact2

That would mean there are two of the same. you should denote them as  Mr.Exact2 instead. ;D
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: KnightofNi on November 11, 2009, 05:49:12 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on November 11, 2009, 05:00:22 AM
All the rocket scientists physicists in this thread should realize you can superscript e=mc^2...

with a mouse click.

like this...e=mc2 ;)

but I guess not. :-\

nobody said sciencey people weren't lazy.

Quote from: Monsterlover on November 11, 2009, 05:41:40 AM
You should change your name to Mr. Exact2

;D

shouldn't it be Mr. Exact Sr.?
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: ducpainter on November 11, 2009, 05:56:23 AM
Quote from: KnightofNi on November 11, 2009, 05:49:12 AM
nobody said sciencey people weren't lazy.

shouldn't it be Mr. Exact Sr.?
some people...really smart people...miss the obvious.

Just proves I'm not smart.

you can bite me. ;)
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: KnightofNi on November 11, 2009, 06:00:22 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on November 11, 2009, 05:56:23 AM
some people...really smart people...miss the obvious.

Just proves I'm not smart.

you can bite me. ;)

there's obvious and then there's lazy.

i went to school with people who couldn't pick out 2 matching socks.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Monsterlover on November 11, 2009, 06:05:34 AM
What's the point in that?  I mean, exactly how much effort should I be expected to put into finding the match?

They're all socks, they all end up on one foot or the other. . .

;D
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: KnightofNi on November 11, 2009, 06:09:17 AM
Quote from: Monsterlover on November 11, 2009, 06:05:34 AM
What's the point in that?  I mean, exactly how much effort should I be expected to put into finding the match?

They're all socks, they all end up on one foot or the other. . .

;D

when worn with pants that are a bit too short they look really stupid.
and since i became the cool kid when i went to college because there were so many people that were just shitloads smarter than i am i had to refocus on doing somethign better than them  ;D
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: acalles on November 11, 2009, 08:25:22 AM
Holy Al Gore school of science batman!
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: ducpainter on November 11, 2009, 08:31:10 AM
Quote from: KnightofNi on November 11, 2009, 06:00:22 AM
there's obvious and then there's lazy.

i went to school with people who couldn't pick out 2 matching socks.
Only some know how important socks are to you
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: KnightofNi on November 11, 2009, 08:35:13 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on November 11, 2009, 08:31:10 AM
Only some know how important socks are to you

what do socks have to do with this thread?

please keep it on topic or i'll have to hit the RTM button


;D
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: NAKID on November 11, 2009, 08:41:12 AM
So, if she said that mass was essentially nothing in that equation, wouldn't that mean that energy = nothing?

e=mc2 is energy=0(speed of light)2 speed of light squared times zero is zero. So energy=zero...
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: acalles on November 11, 2009, 08:43:41 AM
Quote from: Mr. Exact on November 11, 2009, 08:41:12 AM
So, if she said that mass was essentially nothing in that equation, wouldn't that mean that energy = nothing?

e=mc2 is energy=0(speed of light)2 speed of light squared times zero is zero. So energy=zero...

unless its vibrating with a plant or animal string, then its infinitesimal.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: KnightofNi on November 11, 2009, 08:46:55 AM
Quote from: Mr. Exact on November 11, 2009, 08:41:12 AM
So, if she said that mass was essentially nothing in that equation, wouldn't that mean that energy = nothing?

e=mc2 is energy=0(speed of light)2 speed of light squared times zero is zero. So energy=zero...

essentially nothing and actually nothing are different.

particles have mass, it's just an incredibly small amt of mass.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: He Man on November 11, 2009, 10:22:09 AM
Quote from: KnightofNi on November 11, 2009, 08:46:55 AM
essentially nothing and actually nothing are different.

particles have mass, it's just an incredibly small amt of mass.

Particle in what sense? Photons have no mass but act like particles with mass.  ;D
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: KnightofNi on November 11, 2009, 10:31:59 AM
Quote from: He Man on November 11, 2009, 10:22:09 AM
Particle in what sense? Photons have no mass but act like particles with mass.  ;D

i'm trying to make it simple.

knock it off or i'll call the garbage men. [cheeky]
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Randimus Maximus on November 11, 2009, 11:40:37 AM
This thread makes my head hurt.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Buckethead on November 11, 2009, 01:26:46 PM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on November 11, 2009, 11:40:37 AM
This thread makes my head hurt.

S'okay.

She still won't take off.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on November 11, 2009, 01:39:33 PM
Ask me about time dilation-I dare ya.  [evil]
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: KnightofNi on November 11, 2009, 04:25:57 PM
ok, she's a dumbdumb

and she doesn't understand the basic principles of math.

and how the make the beast with two backs does blowing up your neighbors house change the state of the energy of the house because it "structurally makes it not a structure"

i could go on but

(http://www.opaquelucidity.com/facepalm.jpg)

do they really expect people who actually have a grasp on physics and chemistry to buy into this shit?
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: mstevens on November 11, 2009, 04:35:34 PM
Quote from: roy-nexus-6 on November 10, 2009, 04:04:59 PM
Possibly the worst pseudo-scienctific justificaiton for homeopathy I ever seen.

When one is talking about justifications for homeopathy, they're all pseudo-scientific. We're already in a region of such badness that it's hard to distinguish degrees of lousiness. However, I must agree that she seems to have wound the circus down to new depths of pderbyerousness.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: ducpainter on November 11, 2009, 04:38:19 PM
Quote from: mstevens on November 11, 2009, 04:35:34 PM
When one is talking about justifications for homeopathy, they're all pseudo-scientific. We're already in a region of such badness that it's hard to distinguish degrees of lousiness. However, I must agree that she seems to have wound the circus down to new depths of pderbyerousness.
There are some MDs that make her look like Einstein.

I've met several.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: CMDRDAVE on November 11, 2009, 04:49:32 PM
Wow, I am now dumber from viewing that.  I award her no points!

Everyone Is Now Dumber - Billy Madison (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7w64fbqYQY#normal)
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Grampa on November 11, 2009, 05:17:10 PM
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31FMWCJPM3L._SL500_AA280_.jpg)

vibrating balls of energy
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: DoubleEagle on November 11, 2009, 05:32:41 PM
Anti-matter has great mass.

Dolph      :)
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Scottish on November 11, 2009, 09:36:46 PM
Ah, shit. Second smart people thread I've wondered into tonight. I think I read some funny stuff... right?








[laugh]


Gonna go to the musin thread, please don't ruin it by coming in there and claiming something crazy like "all music is mathematics" or some such tripe.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: mstevens on November 12, 2009, 04:11:42 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on November 11, 2009, 04:38:19 PM
There are some MDs that make her look like Einstein.

I've met several.

Me, too.

Stupidity is an inexhaustible resource. If only there were some way we could harness it!
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: erkishhorde on November 12, 2009, 08:18:49 AM
Quote from: KnightofNi on November 11, 2009, 04:52:17 AM
i watched a show on the science channel and another on the history channel (with a rather attractive lady who works at the JPL) that kind of explained it.

it's a rather hard concept to grasp, but the gravity that all the matter in the universe has combined would allow all of the matter to squeeze down on itself thus making it tiny. and yes, very very dense. of course when a star does this it has the tendency to form a black hole, but then again how do we know our universe didn't start from a black hole?

i have yet to watch the video, but from the responses here i'm guessing it is a very well thought out explaination. i'll need a good laugh when i get home. maybe it will replace that whole unifying theory thing too.

So... it's kind of an origins theory? What question are they trying to answer besides "Am I crazy?"
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: KnightofNi on November 12, 2009, 08:57:42 AM
Quote from: erkishhorde on November 12, 2009, 08:18:49 AM
So... it's kind of an origins theory? What question are they trying to answer besides "Am I crazy?"

the real physicists are trying to figure out how things work, and why they work the way they do.


the optometrist is trying to answer the question of "how can i get people to buy more useless crap?"*

*this is jsut my theory. i could't watch the whole video. i had to stop after the bomb analogy.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: He Man on November 12, 2009, 09:39:53 AM
Quote from: MrIncredible on November 11, 2009, 01:39:33 PM
Ask me about time dilation-I dare ya.  [evil]


If a 620 was moving at near the speed of light, and another 620 zipped by also indicating near the speed of light, how fast does one bike see the other?  8)
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: KnightofNi on November 12, 2009, 09:41:33 AM
Quote from: He Man on November 12, 2009, 09:39:53 AM

If a 620 was moving at near the speed of light, and another 620 zipped by also indicating near the speed of light, how fast does one bike see the other?  8)

the slower bike will see the faster bike as moving at the speed of light.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: He Man on November 12, 2009, 09:49:16 AM
what if both bikes had a rear warp nacelle and moved at the speed of light?
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: NAKID on November 12, 2009, 01:46:44 PM
Didn't Einstein theorize that it was impossible for matter to travel at the sped of light? Faster or slower, yes, but not AT the speed of light?
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: KnightofNi on November 12, 2009, 06:23:32 PM
Quote from: He Man on November 12, 2009, 09:49:16 AM
what if both bikes had a rear warp nacelle and moved at the speed of light?

are they on a treadmill?
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: mstevens on November 12, 2009, 08:13:21 PM
Quote from: Mr. Exact on November 12, 2009, 01:46:44 PM
Didn't Einstein theorize that it was impossible for matter to travel at the sped of light? Faster or slower, yes, but not AT the speed of light?

I don't believe Einstein ever theorized that anything could travel faster than the speed of light.
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: KopfjÀger on November 12, 2009, 08:24:36 PM
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/hotsciencelight/ (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/einstein/hotsciencelight/)
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: NAKID on November 13, 2009, 03:30:43 AM
Quote from: mstevens on November 12, 2009, 08:13:21 PM
I don't believe Einstein ever theorized that anything could travel faster than the speed of light.

Woops, nope. This is it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scharnhorst_effect (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scharnhorst_effect)
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Goat_Herder on November 13, 2009, 11:33:51 AM
She is not just crazy, she is mathematically challenged.  I damn nearly fell off my chair at 2:00.  WTF?!?!?!  Einstein is rolling over in his grave!
Title: Re: Words cannot express the stupid....
Post by: Goat_Herder on November 13, 2009, 11:48:16 AM
I lasted till 2:30 and I have to turn it off.  Einstein's General Theory of Relatively and the equation of E=MC^2 was meant to demonstrate how much energy is stored in mass, dispite of how small the mass might seem.  It doesn't matter how insignificant the mass is, it is multiplied by the speed of light, SQUARED.  A small mass would have a tremendous amount of energy.  MAKE THE BEAST WITH TWO BACKSING STUPID PREGNANT DOG!


UPDATE: I just realized that the points in my post were probaby mentioned in previous posts.  But I got so PO'ed at this dumb pregnant dog that I jumped right to "reply" without reading the entire thread.