OK...here's a question for all of you who know more about electronics than I (not hard to do [cheeky]). We're in the market for a new flat panel TV. 37" is the largest practical due to space constraints. 32" would also be plenty big.
So, a 37" LCD is about the same price as a 32" LED. Is there any technical reason to go with the smaller LED?
Also, any brand recommendations? If we go LCD we're most likely going to get a Samsung LN37B650 since it was rated highest in Consumer Reports. No idea what brand makes the best LED though. ???
Thanks! :)
If you go with LED, look at the LG.
funny thing about LEDs that i noticed while back when shopping for a new tv , its too clear ... Its so clear u can tell the movies being shot in a studio :-\ ... i was deciding between LED and plasma, ended up getting plasma ... i dont know maybe its just me, but my nephew thought the same thing. They were playing IRON MAN at the store, and we both sat there for a good half hour before realizing that it was too clear, if there is such a thing ...
I've found that some movies and shoes look odd on new TVs with a really fast refresh rate.
A bit like you're in the studio watching the actors, versus watching a show?
Quote from: cyclops on November 29, 2009, 06:34:17 PM
it was too clear, if there is such a thing ...
That's completely accurate. My dad recently bought a Samsung 55" LED and it is too clear. I feel that there is no filter between myself and the actors/scene, whereas with my LCD, you can tell you are watching a TV show, there is a slight softness to it. It's a completely different feel. I don't like the LED for TV, but I brought my Xbox over one day and I loved it. I would go to the store to check them out, they have huge differences.
But to clarify, LED
is LCD. LED is just the backlight, compared with the standard fluorescent (CCFL)
Quote from: zarn02 on November 29, 2009, 07:41:19 PM
I've found that some movies and shoes look odd on new TVs with a really fast refresh rate.
I noticed that with a pair of old boots as well...
Quote from: DRKWNG on November 29, 2009, 09:03:09 PM
I noticed that with a pair of old boots as well...
[laugh]
The real shame is that I'm not drunk, and can't blame that on anything.
[beer] [thumbsup]
Quote from: cyclops on November 29, 2009, 06:34:17 PM
funny thing about LEDs that i noticed while back when shopping for a new tv , its too clear ...
it is strange when you can see the actors make-up! they must be hating it.
Thanks everyone. [thumbsup] Leaning towards LCD now. We'll ofcourse go look at them and compare...just wanted to make sure there wasn't some great reason I should be wanting an LED.
Quote from: Triple J on November 30, 2009, 06:20:43 AM
Thanks everyone. [thumbsup] Leaning towards LCD now. We'll ofcourse go look at them and compare...just wanted to make sure there wasn't some great reason I should be wanting an LED.
the LED backlight will be more uniform (across the screen) and be more consistent (brightness) over it's lifespan.
LCD vs LCD+LED backlight? the latter, for sure.
Once you limit your choices down, you could also check out avsforum for owner feedbacks.
so let me get this straight the reason why people are getting the led is because it has a better sharper picture, but the reason why you guys are disliking it is because the picture is "too good" ? wtf? that's ironic.
its sort of like saying "i want a supermodel wife, but she can't be the best looking woman around" wtf? if she is a supermodel she is supposed to look like the best woman around.
Quote from: sbrguy on November 30, 2009, 07:17:49 AM
so let me get this straight the reason why people are getting the led is because it has a better sharper picture, but the reason why you guys are disliking it is because the picture is "too good" ? wtf? that's ironic.
its sort of like saying "i want a supermodel wife, but she can't be the best looking woman around" wtf? if she is a supermodel she is supposed to look like the best woman around.
There are things I prefer to watch
not in HD. I get the 'too clear' thing.
This is just image reproduction. A little blurring is often a good thing...like a proffessional photographer shooting with certain filters.
to each their own. [beer]
Consumer Report isn't as objective as they want people to believe. Check other reviews as well.
We'd love to have the LG LED TV, but as of now its a bit too expensive. The picture quality is staggering. It's like you are really there right in front of the actors!!! Love it!
LED also uses less electricity than LCD, and also generates less heat. Might or might not be important to you.
Quote from: IdZer0 on November 30, 2009, 10:00:23 AM
LED also uses less electricity than LCD, and also generates less heat. Might or might not be important to you.
I thought heat/electricity use were only issues for Plasma?
Long term testing still hasn't shown a downside to LED TVs - but remember that plasma was out for a year or so before they realized that the lifespan for the G1 TVs was less than 4yrs. Granted they fixed the problem, but I would either buy one and love it and not worry about it and enjoy it while you've got it, or be concerned and wait which I'm sure you don't want to do!!!! (I know that I wouldn't!!!) [thumbsup]
Quote from: derby on November 30, 2009, 06:45:21 AM
the LED backlight will be more uniform (across the screen) and be more consistent (brightness) over it's lifespan.
LCD vs LCD+LED backlight? the latter, for sure.
Agreed. I've also read that with LED backlit TVs, for example, during a scene with a person carrying a torch in a dark cave, the backlighting can vary across the screen so that the illuminated person is bright while the dark background will be blacker/darker than with conventional LCD backlighting.
As far as the picture quality issues, I'm not sure that's an LCD vs. LCD+LED thing, they're both LCD TVs, the backlighting technology is just different. I have seen the effect you guys have described before though (I think my brother told me it's called the soap opera effect), it was when watching The Dark Knight on Blu-Ray, we adjusted the TV's refresh rate (I think) to 240Hz. It just looked.... hard to describe... bad, I guess... like a soap opera. Maybe that was what the TV in store was set to?
I noticed when watching a blu-ray on even an LCD with any kind of CGI, the CGI usually stands out like a sore thumb. You can tell how its copy & pasted into the scene.
Quote from: IdZer0 on November 30, 2009, 10:00:23 AM
LED also uses less electricity than LCDCCFL, and also generates less heat. Might or might not be important to you.
fixed it for ya.
QuoteBut to clarify, LED is LCD. LED is just the backlight, compared with the standard fluorescent (CCFL)
I though LCD= Cight Cancelling Diode and LED=Light Emitting Diode...
So if the image is "too sharp", how will MotoGP and new Moto2 and Formula 1 races look like?... Smell the race gas?
Quote from: Darkmonster620 formerly M620D on November 30, 2009, 02:38:58 PM
I though LCD= Cight Cancelling Diode and LED=Light Emitting Diode...
So if the image is "too sharp", how will MotoGP and new Moto2 and Formula 1 races look like?... Smell the race gas?
LCD=Liquid Chrystal Display
LED=Light Emitting Diode
Quote from: 1KDS on November 30, 2009, 04:32:09 PM
LCD=Liquid Chrystal Display
LED=Light Emitting Diode
So, someone back at school messed up or ...means both?
Quote from: Darkmonster620 formerly M620D on December 01, 2009, 01:57:19 PM
So, someone back at school messed up or ...means both?
have you tried getting a google hit on "light cancelling diode (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22light+cancelling+diode%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a)"?
leason learned... beer anyone?
OK...follow-up question. [cheeky]
Plasma or LCD, LED/LCD? Opinions? ???
Originally I was staying away from Plasma due to heat generation and power use...however, after reading a comparison I'm not sure anymore. Plasma has much better viewing angles, which could be important in my small living room. LED/LCD also use about the same power as plasma...so if I am concerned with power then I have to go straight LCD. Longevity seems to be very similar as well. Plasma wins hands down on cost.
I'm not a gamer, and I don't plan on using it for my computer...so burn-in isn't much of an issue. New plasma models seem to have made vast improvements in that any way.
It's easy.
Walk into store. Find what looks best and fits wall.
Buy. [thumbsup]
I've a 19" LCD in the bedroom, OK, is small, I have a small budget [$650.00/month salary], it has the issue that I had to set it up in a way that, it can only be seen if seated on the bed at no more than 45* viewing angle...
Will use xmas bonus to get 26" LCD for ht room, where I watch MotoGP and F1 races. Due to room size, 26", either Panasonic or LG, is largest size recommended, room size 9'x9'.
LCD vs Plasma was an easy choice for me. I went with a new Panasonic plasma (one of only two or three brands available in Australia, dammit) 'cause it was better for gaming. Its faster phosphor decay means that video game pixels illuminate and fade much, much faster than LCD (like, a thousand times faster!). This means that LCD blurs incredibly badly, but plasma is as fast as an old CRT: basically instant.
Plasma has better off-axis viewing (you don't have to sit in the sweet spot), but LCD has better saturation (more vivid colours). Plasma is heavier, and throws off more heat, and consumes more power. My 50" plasma is nearly as heavy as my 29" CRT, where an LCD would be much lighter. Plasmas can also be larger than LCDs.
I can't watch LCD TV. The constant blurring drives me absolutely insane. I'm jealous of the colour: for photos, LCD would be better. For movies and TV shows with a lot of action, or high-contrast areas like concert lights on a black background, plasma kicks ass.
Plasma's are typically reserved for large screens, and are cheaper for the same screen-size compared with LCD. Modern plasma TVs have a half-life of 100,000 hours - roughly 20 years of 8-hours-a-day watching, before they're half as bright as new. Modern plasmas don't suffer burn-in like the old ones do, LCDs don't have this problem at all.
I use my old hacked Xbox to play Super Nintendo games, and I tell you what - those pixels are a centimeter tall and Mario never looked so good. =D
^^^ Thanks! [thumbsup]
Quote from: MrIncredible on December 01, 2009, 03:02:27 PM
It's easy.
Walk into store. Find what looks best and fits wall.
Buy. [thumbsup]
Too easy. :P ;D
Wait a few years until LED means organic LED - that could replace LCD (LED and CFL) and do some crazy sh!t.
mitt
i managed to pick up a pricematched LG fully backlit LED-LCD 47" for $1299 at best buy... it was a make the beast with two backsing steal... Supposed to be delievered next thursday :D :D