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Does anyone have any info on these? I know they're from H Competition and that's about it.
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PM ryanracer

shouldn't that tail be chopped more with that exhaust?

H Competition.  The H must stand for HotNuts.

I'll bet a dollar that those hit the fender.

 I'll see your dollar and raise you two.  ;)

RYANRACER... calling RYANRACER... your public awaits you.

it looks like a exhaust tip you could buy from Auto Zone!

maybe so, but i dig it. looks mean as hell.

+1 on that.  why can't Ducati come up with something decent for an exhaust lately?

http://ec.europa.eu/environment/air/transport/road.htm (http://ec.europa.eu/environment/air/transport/road.htm)
http://www.epa.gov (http://www.epa.gov)

YO, I'm here just watching the blinking lights!  The twin pipes are available and are being welded up as we speak!  The design was exactly from the classic Monza tip.  We had one laying around the shop and for some odd reason we got the crazy idea of seeing what one would look like.  The 8 employees all agreed it looked awesome.  So we ended up fabbing one from scratch.  The finished production version is made from stainless and they are tig welded.  The car version is mild steed and stamped, chromed and blacked out.  The exhaust is made to miss the tire in the event of the rear tore leaving the ground.  If you hit the exhaust, you have put the spring into coil bind which means your problems are much bigger than worrying about if your fender hit the exhaust.

+1

I would like this a lot more if it went the full length of the tail section.

or if the bike was more of a streetfigher (would probably look amazing on celli's bike), but as is it looks rather half done.

I am considering these or the boomtubes. I like the looks of the boomtubes on the older monsters, but on the new ones I don't like the look of the pipe that runs under the engine.
I'm leaning towards the under seat. [moto]

I feel the same way, I wish someone would come up with a 2:1:2 system that uses an over-the clutch header for the horizontal exhaust.  I love the look and it keeps the bottom clean.

on the other hand, having that shit down low keeps the center mass lower.

We looked real close at running the exhaust the length of the tail, but we then run into the physics of what speeddog was referring to.  The rear tire would definitely hit the exhaust. That is why we have to shorten the underseat exhaust. 

working on it.

Any chance of angling the exhaust outlets to the sides?  That way the undertail doesn't collect soot over time and you might get a little more clearance at the same time.

While it looks like an exhaust tip tacked on to the header I do like where it's going.

Scott

The soot buildup I have not observed yet. I have had the box design on the bike since June.  We are coming out with a GP exhaust that we may kick to the side.  Here is a mock up pic...

Side Exit
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Straight Out the back version
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I like that one better Ryan :)  Looks more finished.

looks like a make the beast with two backsing mini jet turbine in there ;D love it!

I like that one even more.  Competition Werkes has a slip on for the R6 that looks similar to that and I always wanted one.
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that's no excuse IMO.  technology is far superior than EPA/California emissions standards. Here in TX we strip all that shit.  ;D

i like the concept but i'd prefer a can that fits the contour better, something flat or even concave on the bottom.

or even a pillbox shape, like this:

(http://www.frostysfinishes.com/images/S4Rrightrear.JPG)

I love the CW design and the robot welds are gorgeous!  More than likely we will end up with an outlet similar to that, but finding the reverse cone with that taper is not that easy.  I also like the pillbox design too. The finished version of the twin tubes are merged and fitted by hand.  Here are the actual pics of the working prototype.  The tips we are making are a larger diameter so it would fill the back end up a little more than the typical Monza tip.  I think we are going to be doing several different exhaust tips that match the midpipe so you could change the tip as often as you change your underwear and do it in less that 5 minutes...

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Here are the three different prototype mid-pipes
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what about a 2:2 that would dump the rear cylinder  a bit further than that and the front cylinder at a similar angie but located where boom toobs dump?

I'm defitely diggin that, maybe you could fab something up for me while I do attempt my S4 conversion to a single sided swingarm!

That thing is just way too close to the fender.Not good,esp two up.

Have you incorporated baffles into the design? I can't imagine how freaking loud that would be without them.  [coffee]

very nice work .. i like the "monza" style tip

so you are doing all popular models ..ie  s2r s4r 800/900/1000 etc


does it sound ..harly like or say arrow like or termi ...how bout a video to hear sound

price point ???

As far as 2 up, we have tested it. No problems so far,  I would however tighten the preload on the spring if you do ride two up to be on the safe side. I run very little preload on my spring about .8" of thread showing.  We are looking at doing the Desmosedici style GP exhaust, just time is the factor...Yes we do have baffles in our exhaust and they are very loud without them.  Price point is $850.00 for the twintubes which includes new midpipe and titanium hardware.  There are three different finish options: Polished-$60, Ceramic Black-$40 and Brushed-$Free!  The Rodan "Box" is $950 for the stainless and $970 for ceramic coated black.

ride by:
H competition 696 Ducati Ride By (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0IOHRVHob4#normal)

Squid

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hmmmmmmm not bad

any chance you could have them a little deeper sound

Don't worry NAKID, that is not me riding the bike. That is Darrell our resident motorcycle racer...  Yes we can make a deeper sound, it is all how you pack the mufflers.  We use a new ceramic muffler packing that has a lifetime warranty. So the advantage over the typical fiberglass is, you never have to service it and will last longer than the bike will.

And now to finally put the wheel clearance issue to bed with pics....Yes you can ride two up with it too.  Our mechanical engineer did the calculations to make sure the exhaust did not hit the wheel.  I knew he would design it right so we actually put it to the test. We took the spring completely off the shock, remounted the shock and completely compressed the shock (and even compressed the bump rubber) with the exhaust mounted... here is the result:

Compressed Shock and Bump Rubber:
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Twin Pipes with no rear hugger:
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Twin Pipes with Hugger and 1/8" of clearance
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Rodan box with hugger clearance 1/2"
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So there is the definitive proof...Speeddog you owe someone a dollar.

Well done Ryan :)

Only if the chrome tipped unit in the OP's pics clears.  ;D

Glad you guys did your homework!  [beer]

Gosh dang it! Speeddog..Do you have any idea how hard it is to get that damn rear spring off.  Friggen Sachs! My next project: Make a rear shock that you don't have to compress the spring to remove the retainer.  So I am ready with my exhaust to go clear some triples....James Stewart better watch out... I can see it now Ducati - 2010 AMA Supercross Constructors Champion.

Penske already does shocks that way.  :)

You don't have to pull the spring off just for me, that's way more than a dollar's work.  [laugh]

Hat's off to you guys,that's some hardwork you put in it. [thumbsup]

damn you have to do a d16 style exhauset with one on the bottom like the standard boomtubes and another routed up under the tail, that would be a sweet look especially if you kept the stock header config from the horizontal cylinder and still routed it like the lower boom tube...

got a question with the normal boom tubes with baffles can you get it down to the level of termi with baffles or just slightly louder?

Some nice work you guys are doing there!

Would it be hard work to make it fit on a S2R 800 ?

thanks for the clearance pics, now i know my setup will work

No problem Raux, can't wait to see what your scheming on!!

Anyway,

Here is the finished product of the the new stainless mid-pipe and the dual tip with the rear half polished....(Michelle should be excited now...). The mid-pipe flows a lot better with the lines of the bike now....At least in my honest opinion....

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Those look awesome!

Any chance of pics of the finished Rodan box???

I placed my pre-order and would love to see some pics of both before production starts so I don't make the wrong decision

I think these look great, but I have a question. Is it me, or does the plastic near the seatlock look melted?

Might just be a reflection... if they have the fender chop kit on the bottom panel is replace with a steel plate so that shouldn't be a problem anyways.

Good eye rollout, it looks melted to me as well.

Needs more ceramic composite bling.  And if the F/A ratio is off, the kevlar pants might be a good idea too.   ;D

 [popcorn] this is great. i almost want to buy a 696/1100 just to get this exhaust. great work guys! if only you could fab up something shweet for my 749... ;D

You guys do have good eyes, the very first prototype we had on there was responsible.  The exhaust gas on the first prototype directed the air right onto the key box.  We have since had 5 revisions to get the temp down.  So far, no further problems or melting.  The production box features 2 vertical fences instead of one to help with this.  If I was to do it over again, I wouldn't even use the DP tail chop kit, in fact the CW one is the best with this exhaust since it all sits flush with everything.  As far as the rider and passenger temps, you are much less likely to feel the effects of heat with the under tail exhaust.

Whats up Ryan.. I see why i havent heard from you in months now. Pipes look good man. You need to give me a call so i can see these guys in person and so we can grab a beer..

Yay all is done! WE have in stock now and are ready to ship this thing out...

Here are the pics of the production box mounted and with a sound clip.

The GP exhaust is in the prototype phase still it will be done in April and available in May.  Here are some better pics of the production Rhodan Box (Black Ceramic Coated) and stainless midpipe.

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and a link to the sound clip
H competition 696 Ducati Exhaust Rhodan Box (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oskSiSr2zn4#normal)

Wow that sounds great! Say, if i drive up there you wanna make one of those for my bike i would be alright with that....tucson to chandler aint that bad  ;)

Sure no problem we can arrange that!

Wow...nice job.  The Rodan box sounds great and the chrome/polished tips look sweet also. 

Just got my Rhodan box in the mail today... It's installed and sounds amazing! Deep loud rumble... Cannot wait to ride it.  [thumbsup] to Ryanracer

It's a fantastic idea and I love some of the pre-release setups, but I don't love the box.  Maybe it can grow on me, but IMHO the bike has very organic curves and the box sort of competes with that.

Also, it's set so far down, it's blasting the exhaust right under the mudguard and against the tail.  When you are stopped, that will become a baffle for exhaust gases meaning they won't eject away from the bike.

Might heat the pillion up too some.

if I could get it with a different tip/box, I'd probably get one.  Workmanship looks top notch!

I just installed the box last night... Does not come near the mudgaurd or tail. The box in the pics by ryanracer make it look much bigger than it actually is, seeing how the bike is so small, but I was suprised at the size of it and that it fits the bike perfect.

The exhaust does not heat up anything on the bike, I let it run for a good 10 min getting up to normal operating temp and then felt around the license plate, under seat, mud guard, etc and did not feel anything hot or in danger of melting. They also provide a sheet of reflective heat resistant material that has an adhesive so you can place it under the seat to protect anything that might be in danger.

Here are some pics from my phone, not the greatest quality.....

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This exhaust sounds great! Much better than my quat-d did, plus it's very unique in it's look. The exhaust note is loud, yet refined sounding.

I like the box's look, but a pair of ceramic coated twice tubes would also be awesome to have... The great thing about this setup is that the tips can be changed. This whole unit comes with the box(or tips, cone, or whatever you buy), and a new midpipe. The tips and mid-pipe disconnect allowing the user to switch tips depending on what look they want or if they want to experiment with their own design.

So, not only are you getting the rhodan box, GP cone, or twin tubes... but a whole new midpipe.... This exhaust setup really leaves the bike open to a ton of possibilities for a custom exhaust.

Wow! I love it! Sign me up for a black Rhodan. (That is after I replace the bike I just sold. :'( ) Honestly, amazing work. [thumbsup]

i must admit it looks far better from the side, it does fit the bike better than i could see from the back.  nice.

 [clap] Really compliments your dark theme, nice work  [thumbsup]  How's the underseat heat factor?

Very slick.

Looks really good man!! How long did it take to install? Was is difficult?  Also, where did you get you license plate set up? Would like to see the under side of tidy tail?  tks in advance.

Thanks!

It only took about 10 mins to install. I already had the old mid-pipe(which now is on it's way to ungeheuer) and exhaust off. So, basically, you just seat the new mid-pipe into where the old one was, tighten down the brackets, slip on the Rhodan box, bolt it down. Bolt into underside of seat. Extremely simple.

I have the competition werkes tail kit.... I will try to get some pics this weekend of the underside.

now, can you make them for the older monsters?  specifically the 2006 S4R series?   [popcorn]

Wow, Thanks all! We put a lot of work into getting this thing right.  Doworkson, I would like to see a pic of your bike directly from the back since you have the bad ass rear sets.  I haven't seen the exhaust on a bike like that! Nice work on the dark theme!  

As far as an S4, I would need an S4 here in Phoenix, AZ that I could take a look at to see what can be done to reduce from twin headers into 1.

Oddly enough, our carbon guy was at the shop today and we are looking at doing some small carbon saddle bags that are compatible with the exhaust. When you remove the stock pipes, there are some M8 tapped holes in the subframe that are begging to be used for something.. This maybe the answer?  Any Photoshop guys out there?? LOL

I'm also interested in some feedback on how the bike feels with a lot of the weight gone from the back?  I guess that might be a hard question if you went from a Quat-D Ex Box?  

If you're wondering where the name came from.....
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That's cause its for a monster......I know bad humor right?

I'm going to be putting a Single sided swingarm on it so it will be a little different of a routing than the stock S4. When I finish the conversion in May I can drop it off at your shop....we can work it out  [thumbsup]

Looks great!  Now, how would it work on an 1100?  How does it run with the stock ECU?  Cost?

You know what would really be killer is a carbon version, kind of like the 749 / 999 carbon termi setup.

If Ryan is using the stock header pipes for his midpipe then the 1100 should work, since the two stock midpipes measure up equally. you'll need to get the Duc.EE from Motocreations to fix the flapper valve signal.
and i can't see any issues with fueling since it's just like any other slipon exhaust.

That's being investigated right now.  When doworkson's 696 stock midpipe arrives with me, we'll learn more about 696/1100 compatibility.  If the 696 midpipe is (as expected) a direct fit on M1100 then any other exhaust which utilizes the stock headers - including Ryanracer's - should also fit.

As Raux says, on M1100 you would also need something like Motocreation's Duc.EE >> http://www.motocreations.com/electrical.asp (http://www.motocreations.com/electrical.asp)

I'm a little far from Phoenix but if you get your hands on a single sided Monster I'd be interested in buying one.  keep us posted.
Thanks

ungeheuer, I'll be excited to see this exhaust on your bike.  Please post pics as soon as you can.  thanks.

I'm throwing exhaust ideas around right now, but i have no plans to fit this exhaust.  Sorry to disappoint.  At this stage I'm just intending to try the stock 696 midpipe on for size....coz once thats known then it opens out the options ;D.

If M696 midpipe fits M1100 I may just ceramic coat the whole thing and leave it at that....or not...lol... [popcorn]

Sure thing!

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right blinker have an amblyopia?  :D

Lol... yeah, i bumped into it and cracked it... Hopefully some JB weld will fix it up

jb weld on a light stalk?  That's new... :D

Those who said that M696 stock midpipe would most likely fit M1100 were indeed correct [thumbsup]... coz here's my M1100 with the flapper-gate nowhere to be seen thanks to DoWorkSon allowing me to acquire his M696 midpipe.  This surely means that those of you working on 696 exhaust systems which utilize the stock headers can now be reasonably confident that your systems will also bolt up to M1100.
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Lookin' good!

It worked out just fine  ;D

Wow the sound of that Rodan box makes me want to throw my pants into a tree. Up until now the problem I had with the new Monsters was the look of the exhaust. This product solves the issue, and sounds super evil [evil]

Just got some more customer pics in from some folks.....

This is Davids 696...He just installed an integrated tail light to go with his setup....I want this now!!!  They are using this bike for a display for the time being in the shop....Till it warms up a bit
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I also just picked up some pipes from the ceramic coaters today which is a customers twin tube order. Here are the twin tubes in black. They left the insides uncoated which I actually kinda like. I have to get the customers opinion on it though....What do you guys & girls think?
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I did an experiment today. I had a spare front header pipe so I shaved the exhaust guard off and re-brushed the stainless to see what it would look like. Not sure if I like it yet. If I can find a rear header, I may do a complete ceramic coated headers and midpipe...
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Here is my poorly photoshoped version of blacked out...I'm kinda digging this...
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I've been thinking about losing the heat shields on mine too, I think it looks cleaner without that front shield.  I had the pipes ceramic coated on my 696 and am seriously thinking about doing so on the M1100 too.....  

BTW, I have a spare 696 rear header - if you're interested drop me a PM.

the front heat shield does help.... shield you from the exhaust heat... that's near the hottest part of the pipe.

that is sick! I've seen people shave them off before. I've also ridden without mine on, since i like the look of the slip ons with out theirs, i just took them all off

i really dig that ceramic style of the twins, wow

hey, can you post a video (on a new link) of that tailight? please? ;D

edit: like the silver inside look as well

Thanks! Torrey.  I really like how the blacked out twin tubes look now.

I don't have any video of the integrated tail light.  This customer is in the Mid West maybe I can get him to send me a video of it. He just sent me some new pics this morning from the shop that are a bit clearer.  Man I need to get some rear sets! I am wondering how this bike would handle with 16 lbs off the rear and lighter rear sets...Must feel a bit different.

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oh it must!

i was skeptical on integrated lights, but thats looks ok from what i can see [thumbsup]

you should recommend he remove the front underfairing plastics. it would balance the look a bit.

Raux,

I agree about the heat shields, I just have to be really careful not to put my leg on them? That is a hot part of the exhaust for sure....especially if you leave the fuel enrich lever on! I also would like to see your idea about the side covers. I am going to try a slightly different approach to the oil cooler setup we have....I am going to put a GIANT sucker on there, Im talking like S4R radiator sized oil cooler.... I am just curious to see how far we can get the oil temps down to.

i like the trapezoidal ones below the horizontal cylinder. my shop has recommended I use a TT F1 setup since i'm not using the 848 air intakes for their intended purposes.

I like the trapezoidal look as well. I just have to find a way to do some end tanks on a cut turbulator type oil cooler.  I would love this look on a 696. Hmmm.... Project for May...

Went on the first ride of the season and first ride with the underseat exhaust... All I can say is WOW!

It sounded great, and performed even better.... Felt incredibly smooth, powerful, and loud(according to riding buddies). It was a nice few hour ride in the mountains, and I was never happier with the bike. It felt a so much better with the new exhaust on... Once again, amazing product. [thumbsup]

Its always nice when your sitting there eating lunch and complete strangers start snapping pictures of your bike while it's sitting in the parking lot.

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and the view...

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wow, where do you live! crap!

and i love this perspective, the exhaust is very nice!

full respect , looks fantastic [thumbsup]

I was looking at the pictures thinking, wow what a great looking new monster, I figured out it was the headlight.
Nice job on the bike man, maybe powder coat the spring red.  [thumbsup]