a little help. I am taking off the handlebar for the first time to replace with clip ons. what kind of tool do i need in order to get the top triple clamp off?
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ok.. so i have been doing some searching and see that people have installed clip ons above the triple. What are the consequences of moving the fork
FYI: This is not needed to take the "TOP" triple clamp off.
Quote from: supertjeduc on December 25, 2009, 10:25:15 AM
http://mbsmfg.com/du1099999899.html (http://mbsmfg.com/du1099999899.html)
Quote from: deepak8612 on December 25, 2009, 10:29:17 AM
ok.. so i have been doing some searching and see that people have installed clip ons above the triple. What are the consequences of moving the fork
The angle of the fork will become steeper - as a result the bike will be less directionally stable and steer quicker into turns. You will also change the weight distribution forward. Both are considered good mods for Monsters, but it takes some getting used to and is not welcome for everyone. Depends on your riding style and preferences, which are?
What rear and model?
This is a monster 695. It has a SSS conversion. As far as I know the rear shocks are stock. I understand that the angle of the fork will become steeper. Correct me if Im mistaken, I should be able to balance this out by adjusting the rear
I have been riding for the past 10 years or so. I have ridden everything from dirt bikes to SBKs and now the monster. ON the street I tend to ride a bit more aggressively. I throw the bike into turns and hang off quite often. I like a bike that is flickable.
Is there a reason you want to install the clip-ons above the triple?
The rear height is not adjustable in stock form on the 695, and you probably wouldn't want to lower the rear anyway due to clearance issues.
I'd say go with mounting them below the triple, and get clip-ons with rise if needed
Quote from: DarkStaR on December 25, 2009, 01:09:03 PM
Is there a reason you want to install the clip-ons above the triple?
The rear height is not adjustable in stock form on the 695, and you probably wouldn't want to lower the rear anyway due to clearance issues.
I'd say go with mounting them below the triple, and get clip-ons with rise if needed
I agree. I think thats what Im gonna do. But that might make the bars really low. What do you think about moving the top triple flush with the end of the fork. Oh and I have GSXR forks.
Quote from: deepak8612 on December 25, 2009, 01:12:48 PM
I agree. I think thats what Im gonna do. But that might make the bars really low. What do you think about moving the top triple flush with the end of the fork. Oh and I have GSXR forks.
Sorry, I have no FHE with the gsxr forks...at all.
How much for the fork is above the top triple?
There are some clip-ons with a good amount of rise out there = not too much lower than stock when mounted below the top triple:
(http://www.speedymoto.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/08-0250BLK_3.jpg)
Quote from: DarkStaR on December 25, 2009, 01:35:22 PM
How much for the fork is above the top triple?
there is 15 mm of fork above the top triple. I have 2 choices... move the fork down then I would put the clip ons under the triple. Or move the fork up about 10 mm and then I would have enough fork to put the clip on clamp above the top triple.
Quote from: deepak8612 on December 25, 2009, 01:42:53 PM
there is 15 mm of fork above the top triple. I have 2 choices... move the fork down then I would put the clip ons under the triple. Or move the fork up about 10 mm and then I would have enough fork to put the clip on clamp above the top triple.
These require 19mm of clamp space.
Motowheels Clip-ons (http://www.motowheels.com/italian/myproducts.cfm?parentcategoryid=1204%7CMonster&productID=2942&showDetail=1&categoryID=45%7CMonster%20Billet&vendoridtodisplay=0&filterFor=&collection=168%7CEuropean%20Motorcycle%20Parts)
(http://www.motowheels.com/italian/images/lg152353703.jpg)
Quote from: deepak8612 on December 25, 2009, 10:10:43 AM
a little help. I am taking off the handlebar for the first time to replace with clip ons. what kind of tool do i need in order to get the top triple clamp off?
To answer your original question, you need an allen wrench and you *may* need something like a rubber mallet to bang the triple if it doesn't come right off. If you don't have a rubber mallet and the triple won't come off, you can also put a a towel or a rolled up t-shirt on the triple and then use a hammer. Banging it might scratch the forks a bit. Alternatively, you can use a screwdriver or something (be careful not to scratch or groove) to open up the expansion joints in the triple as you try to take it off. This should make the triple easier to take off. Go in from the bottom so that if you do scratch it, it isn't noticeable.
As noted, you don't have to do anything with that big center nut with all the little holes in it in a circle. The triple will come off without touching that nut (it's the steering stem).
@ Spidey
Thanks man. I was looking for that info. That weird centre nut threw me off. Will do it tomorrow. Any thoughts on moving the triple up about 15 mm? That way I can get the clip on's under it.
Is that ChChadder's old bike?!? Sure sounds like it...
Raising the front end by 15mm should be fine,
but you'll probably want to get an adjustable rear ride
height rod (if you don't have one already), and raise
the rear to compensate.
Quote from: Duck-Stew on December 26, 2009, 06:48:30 AM
Is that ChChadder's old bike?!? Sure sounds like it...
if you are talking about mine. No it's not. You are familiar with it though. It was paradisecity's bike and now mine for the last year or so.
Quote from: deepak8612 on December 26, 2009, 10:20:36 AM
if you are talking about mine. No it's not. You are familiar with it though. It was paradisecity's bike and now mine for the last year or so.
I remember that story:
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1190.300 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1190.300)
From the pics, it looks like the fork doesn't widen till it gets half way down to the lower triple!?!? ???
Why can't you just mount the clip-ons under the triple the way it is? ???
Quote from: paradisecity on August 30, 2008, 10:51:41 AM
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y14/tomparadis/bikefront.jpg)
Quote from: deepak8612 on December 26, 2009, 10:20:36 AM
if you are talking about mine. No it's not. You are familiar with it though. It was paradisecity's bike and now mine for the last year or so.
I had the bike right, just not the board members name... I remember that one. [thumbsup]
Quote from: DarkStaR on December 26, 2009, 11:01:41 AM
From the pics, it looks like the fork doesn't widen till it gets half way down to the lower triple!?!? ???
Why can't you just mount the clip-ons under the triple the way it is? ???
Yeah.. supposed to be a gixxer fork. looked around at some replacement gsxr fork on ebay and they all widen about halfway between the triples.
I could do that. Just wanted to know my options if i felt that position was too low. That picture is gonna look muh different when Im done with it soon.
Quote from: DarkStaR on December 26, 2009, 11:01:41 AM
I remember that story:
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1190.300 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1190.300)
From the pics, it looks like the fork doesn't widen till it gets half way down to the lower triple!?!? ???
Why can't you just mount the clip-ons under the triple the way it is? ???
Ok.. clamps are mounted below the triple and they feel like a good rising position. Now have a porblem with the wiring.. the headlight bracket is in the way and I cant really get the wiring in place to get everything back on to the clip ons. Any ideas? other than " change the bracket"
Can you describe the issues in more detail? electrical/throttle/brakes/clutch/.....
Quote from: deepak8612 on January 03, 2010, 09:29:23 AM
Ok.. clamps are mounted below the triple and they feel like a good rising position. Now have a porblem with the wiring.. the headlight bracket is in the way and I cant really get the wiring in place to get everything back on to the clip ons. Any ideas? other than " change the bracket"
I found that cutting the fairing tabs makes routing wires/cables/lines easier. YMMV
Lowering the headlight helps even more.
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/hundredpercentkill/dmf/DSC00009.jpg)
Quote from: DarkStaR on January 03, 2010, 12:43:59 PM
I found that cutting the fairing tabs makes routing wires/cables/lines easier. YMMV
Lowering the headlight helps even more.
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y126/hundredpercentkill/dmf/DSC00009.jpg)
i took the headlight off. might replace it. thanks.. i was trying to get some pictures up so i could describe what I was talking about. but that is exactly what I was searching for. dremel?