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Poll
Question: POLL:  What day and times do you plan to visit the IMS
Option 1: Friday (01/15), 4-9 p.m. votes: 1
Option 2: Saturday (01/16) morning votes: 2
Option 3: Saturday afternoon votes: 2
Option 4: Saturday (All day) 9:30 a.m.-8 p.m votes: 2
Option 5: Sunday (01/17) morning votes: 0
Option 6: Sunday afternoon votes: 0
Option 7: Sunday (All day) 9:30 a.m.-5 p.m. votes: 2
Option 8: Multiple days and times votes: 1
Title: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: jetpuff716 on January 11, 2010, 06:57:38 AM
I was curious when folks might be planning to go to the IMS this weekend.  I might sneak over on Saturday, but am planning on being there most of Sunday.  Others?
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: zooom on January 11, 2010, 07:56:28 AM
I am on the fence as to exactly when I'm going to be there. But I am going at some point for sure.

I am saddened to see that aparently KTM will not be there as a factory presence. There might be some there by motivated dealers that want to have a mini-showroom floor and make some contacts, but I somehow doubt it. Apparently the same with Triumph and BMW and Aprilia, from what I have heard, but I could be wrong.
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: angler on January 11, 2010, 09:19:24 AM
I totally forgot about this event.  Thanks for the heads up.  Not sure when I'll go, either Sat or Sun.  Is Sunday better for deals on parts?

Likely start with brunch and then head on over.....
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: Slide Panda on January 11, 2010, 10:12:00 AM
I'm in for Sat AM with camera in tow...
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: dolci on January 12, 2010, 05:32:11 AM
May go down Friday evening after work, but definitely on Sunday.
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: twolanefun on January 12, 2010, 03:25:00 PM
Saturday all day, staying downtown Saturday night,  have no duties, bike competiton etc... so I'm really going to enjoy this one. Hope to ride down Saturday morning 10ish,either the ST3 or the V92SC due to luggage and my sweetie. - Gene
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: zooom on January 13, 2010, 02:12:04 AM
Quote from: twolanefun on January 12, 2010, 03:25:00 PM
Saturday all day, staying downtown Saturday night,  have no duties, bike competiton etc... so I'm really going to enjoy this one. Hope to ride down Saturday morning 10ish,either the ST3 or the V92SC due to luggage and my sweetie. - Gene

hope the place you got booked has underground parking for Moto's since it is supposed to rain Saturday night and I know how you are about making sure your machines are purdy and clean no matter what!...some of the parking garage companies aren't too keen about bikes in their garages and try an turn them away or park them off in places aside from the norm.
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: LYD on January 14, 2010, 07:23:36 AM
looks like I will be there Sat.  going with some friends and will be taking the train in.   
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: angler on January 14, 2010, 07:29:33 AM
I'll be there Saturday. Bringing the GF and friend and his wife.  Will start with brunch, probably in Adams Morgan at The Diner.

Can't really miss me - 6'4", 270, full beard.  No idea what I'll wear.
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: Slide Panda on January 14, 2010, 09:12:33 AM
Looks like saturday's the day.

For those who haven't met me yet - I'm going to wear my DML 'Titanium' shirt. IF you don't know the one, it's Black with silvery Duacti 80 font on the front that reads (you guessed it) Titanium, and has an x-ray on the back of calf with screws, rods and pins.

Also probably be toting a camera and burgundy cam bag.
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: jetpuff716 on January 15, 2010, 08:28:41 AM
Just kidding.  Sorry.
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: Slide Panda on January 15, 2010, 08:48:05 AM
Oh Tony Tony... Really sweetie, don't cover up any more - you're just jealous
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: brix821 on January 17, 2010, 01:59:39 PM
wish I could have made it this year as I have missed 2 in a row. I really wanted to see rossi's m1 and the bens r1 beside each other...post up some pics!
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: zooom on January 18, 2010, 02:53:09 AM
I am going to be writing a very pissy and long rant to Cycle World in regards to this show....it has declined every year a bit more for the last 3 and I am quite frankly pissed I spent money for that....

I got 2 very distinct things out of the event....

1) I luckily got to look at the bike I think I want to purchase next, but only because a local dealer brought that line of bikes in, NOT Cycle World.

2) Gerbing had the heated gear cabling I needed, because no other vendor there had any kind of heated gear there.

the rest of the show( for the most part, with a couple exceptions) was dirt merchants selling crap and the most poorly placed displays from the big manufacturers I have ever seen....Ducati had a much better display this year than the last 2 IMHO and that was the most, and probably the only, improved thing that was done for this IMS show.
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: twolanefun on January 18, 2010, 02:59:42 AM
Quote from: zooom on January 18, 2010, 02:53:09 AM
I am going to be writing a very pissy and long rant to Cycle World in regards to this show....

I'd say your dis-satisfaction should be aimed at the OEM corporate folks, even the HD was a local dealer not corporate, yet Ducati shows up as small as they are. And I heard NY was no better, at least I saved a train ticket. - Gene
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: RB on January 18, 2010, 04:47:56 AM
no pics?
I went last year and swore i wouldn't go back(so i didn't). the Ducati booth was a one entry room....that is just stupid. Glad to hear they got it better this year. Ever since the demise of the monster challenge it seems that the event has been less interesting. Seems that there is less talented vendors showing up with real products, and more China junk.
As Zooom pointed out, the junk booths are worthless and attract low rent morons(IMO)...think sham-wow and fake bullet proof vests with your 'club' name.

I truly wish i missed out this year, but even my 13yr old son thought last year was lame, and he gets to sit on any bike he can(this equals fun, remember when you would sit on a bike and fantasize about your own some day).

Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: jetpuff716 on January 18, 2010, 04:51:55 AM
I was somewhat dissappointed too, but I still had a good time, especially running into old friends.   I also agree the Ducati set up was much better than in past years when it was an enclosed booth.

With regard to the new Multistrada 1200 with 150 hp, and how about the 1200S Touring with the Ducati Electronic Suspension system? ....  thumbs up or thumbs down?    I give it [thumbsup]

Gene, I'm very sorry I missed your call and didn't get to catch up.  
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: angler on January 18, 2010, 05:13:08 AM
Quote from: RB on January 18, 2010, 04:47:56 AM
...think sham-wow and fake bullet proof vests with your 'club' name.


Shit - I bought both a sham-wow and a fake bullet proof vest......Actually did buy a moto chain ashtray for $5 that also came with a moto chain bottle opener.  Can't have enough moto themed ashtrays.

I was pretty disappointed as well.  Lots of junk merchants.  Almost no swag worthy of unzipping the backpack.  I think I took like 3 pictures.  The GF did get to sit on a bunch of different bikes and I think we will go demo a Yammie TW200 or a CRF230 for her in the near-ish future.  She went in their drooling over the cruisers and came out wanting an enduro, so I call that mission accomplished.  My buddy got a decent deal on some SIDI boots.  I went looking for winter gloves and found nothing but junk. Bummer.  Still had a fun day.....

Random pics
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Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: zooom on January 18, 2010, 06:22:34 AM
Quote from: twolanefun on January 18, 2010, 02:59:42 AM
I'd say your dis-satisfaction should be aimed at the OEM corporate folks ....

while I agree with you, I can't help but wonder what the disconnect is for the OEM's (who coordinate this months and months in advance with Cycle World) from this show? Does IMS want too many concessions for them to have their stuff on display? Do they make it too hard for an OEM to have the space to show stuff as they wish? Do they want too much money for doing the show from the OEM's? There is some problem in the works somewhere in the whole deal. Triumph hasn't been represented except by a dealer for 4 or so years, BMW and Aprilia now for 2 years, as well as many others whom have shown in the past, like MV Agusta, Moto Guzzi, Ural, and so on....you just can't help but to wonder...
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: twolanefun on January 18, 2010, 06:23:40 AM
I actually enjoyed it but then I'm a sucker for anything involving two wheels. I only had two expectations/desires, besides running into friends and not having anything official to do for the first time in 5 years, to check out the new MTS 1200 and the new Victory Cross Country, mission accomplished on both scores.

I'm still on the fence on both bikes but confirmed that both of them are worth thinking about as replacements for the ST3 and the Kingpin.

We also stayed downtown instead of commuting, that turned out to be a good escape from the burbs and Nora and I enjoyed wandering around looking for a spot for dinner, ending up at http://www.latascausa.com/site/ (http://www.latascausa.com/site/), jug of Sangria and some good food.

The only thing I was surprised at was the crowds, it was difficult to get pictures with so many people, at least of the stuff I wanted pictures of, guess I was spoiled in the past having free reign before the crowds got there. I also thought that having the dealers represent several of the brands was almost better than having Corporate. - Gene
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: twolanefun on January 18, 2010, 06:29:15 AM
Quote from: zooom on January 18, 2010, 06:22:34 AM
There is some problem in the works somewhere in the whole deal.
Uh have you looked at sales figures? And it is an age old debate in many industries, when things get tough the first budget that gets hit is Marketing. Some would say that is the exact opposite of what should be done. So this year you can add HD, Victory, and Suzuki to the list of local support, not Corporate, probably some others that I'm not in the know on. - Gene
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: Nekkid Tim on January 19, 2010, 02:18:02 PM
God help me, the best looking motorcycle at the entire show was the newly reintroduced Harley Wide Glide; a bike that wouldn;t have gotten a glance from me as recently as five years ago.

The Multistrada 1200 is technically very interesting and there ought to be a market for a bike with that much power, relatively low weight, a modicum of wind protection, and decent luggage capacity.  However, it sets new lows for hideousity (yes, I know that is not a word and I know beauty is in the eye of tyhe beholder, so I'll add: imho) even after Ducati appears to be battling BMW for the title of "Manufacturer of the ugliest European motorcycle brand across all models."

Time for me to start seriously shopping for a 2002-2005 Harley Super Glide Sport that can be built into a good-looking do-everything roadster; as I think my new bike buying days have come and gone!
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: twolanefun on January 19, 2010, 03:28:24 PM
Quote from: Tim on January 19, 2010, 02:18:02 PM
The Multistrada 1200 is technically very interesting and there ought to be a market ................................However, it sets new lows for hideousity ....................Ducati appears to be battling BMW for the title of "Manufacturer of the ugliest European motorcycle brand across all models."

Now that is funny.

I agree the looks would be an acquired taste and justified in discussions by yeah but it's got TC, Dynamic Ohlins suspension, etc...  But is is better looking than the old MTS and I saw several examples of the old ones that were modified to ease the eyes. It is also hard to overlook what is under the skin on that bike and the promise it holds for being a real treat on the street - except it cost $20K for the tour or the sport, for that kind of money I wished it looked more like a Ducati. - Gene
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: zooom on January 19, 2010, 04:45:06 PM
Quote from: twolanefun on January 19, 2010, 03:28:24 PM
   But is is better looking than the old MTS 

marginally, but I do agree!

Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: RB on January 20, 2010, 03:07:51 AM
i like the fact that it's ugly. If it weren't so darn ugly, we would all still be talking about the MoTard  [laugh] yes, Ducati came out with a Motard.
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: sbrguy on January 21, 2010, 04:30:24 AM
the show was ok, but you can only expect that with declining sales.

the vendors there were on teh cheaper side, the gerbings set up was good, i have to say that i did like their gloves and maybe considering getting a pair to make winter commuting a bit easier.

the motorcyle displays were ok, i was able to see some of the bikes i wanted, but mvagusta and such were not there and it would have been nice to see some of them.

Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: Cabbie on January 22, 2010, 01:47:42 PM
Zooooooooom,
   It's not even Cycle World that you should be upset with, they are just the title sponsor.. there is another company in the loop there that actually runs and promotes these... They are the ones that BMW and Triumph have had issues with in the past, and thus BMW does two of the shows and Triumph does none.. As far as manufacturers go, the rest werent there mainly due to cost as far as I can tell... To do one of these shows is insanely expensive, and to do the whole circuit?  Is it good promotion for the product yes... but if you were Aprillia or KTM, would you want to show up and bring 3 bikes and set them up in a 10 x10 booth?  My guess would be no... I would think that the reaction would be that the brand is in trouble... Then everyone complains that they didnt bring bike x or y.. its a lose lose for them unless they go full bore, and the market just does not merit that right now unfortunately..
Title: Re: IMS Washington DC Attendance?
Post by: Nekkid Tim on March 08, 2010, 05:24:06 AM
Quote from: twolanefun on January 19, 2010, 03:28:24 PM
Now that is funny.

I agree the looks would be an acquired taste and justified in discussions by yeah but it's got TC, Dynamic Ohlins suspension, etc...  But is is better looking than the old MTS and I saw several examples of the old ones that were modified to ease the eyes. It is also hard to overlook what is under the skin on that bike and the promise it holds for being a real treat on the street - except it cost $20K for the tour or the sport, for that kind of money I wished it looked more like a Ducati. - Gene

Meggadittos.   I love the idea of the electronically controlled suspension and traction control and ABS.   I wish they would put all that stuff on an 1198 styled as an homage to the original 916 (hey, that was a 1994 bike, they could do it as a 20-year-anniversary homage in 2014!!!) and then I'd probably be *forced* to buy it....   if it were yellow!