really?
kind of disappointing...both the name and the specs.
not to mention, how will people from boston know you arent talking about an iPod? <---shamelessly stolen from a comment on another forum.
It will sell a billion units and then in a couple of hardware generations will finally hit its stride and piss off the early adopters to no end.
Apple has a great product testing/developmet environment called the retail space. Look at the iPod and iPhone/iPod Touch as great examples of this.
I'm not super stoked about the first rendition (yeah, so it's pretty cool), but what I'm more excited about is how it'll progress in the next couple of years.
I could see myself owning one in a couple of years....right now though, I'm shopping for a new laptop, and I definitely need a keyboard as I will use it to take notes in class. I can't imagine taking notes on a touchscreen.
there's already an external keyboard for it, it was part of the announcement. [coffee]
I think it's cool and neat to see where it might go in a few years. BUT
why offer it with 3G and through a carrier, why not wi-fi for those of us that don't
need constant connectivity
Quote from: VisceralReaction on January 27, 2010, 10:53:38 AM
I think it's cool and neat to see where it might go in a few years. BUT
why offer it with 3G and through a carrier, why not wi-fi for those of us that don't
need constant connectivity
the base units are wifi and Bluetooth enabled.
the 3G/AT&T units are $130 more.
As a person who works heavily in media and on Macs, I do not see the benefits of owning one.
I have a PowerMac in my home studio, a laptop in the living room, an iPod, an iPhone, and 2 Macs at work that I have to stare at all day. The last thing I need is yet another large screen with which to read emails or post witty comments on Facebook. Nor do I need a screen to read a novel; call me old fashioned but when I read I want a nice hardback with soft paper, no harsh lighting from a screen.
Knowing Apple though, I'm confident they've held back on what they've developed, making a sucker out of anyone who buys first gen.
If someone has a genuine useful purpose to these things for the average consumer I'd love to hear it.
I do like this:
(http://images.apple.com/ipad/specs/images/keyboard_dock_1_20100127.jpg)
I think this thing would have been crippled without some easy way to dock it. I have my old G4 iBook set up in our livingroom for some quick/standing web browsing and recipe reference. There is probably a niche to be filled in my household with this contraption.
If you add on controls for an entertainment system I think it makes a good overall non-office computer.
I don't like that it doesn't run OSX :-\ Hopefully someone hacks around that soon.
Quote from: factorPlayer on January 27, 2010, 10:51:57 AM
there's already an external keyboard for it, it was part of the announcement. [coffee]
Guess I should have actually read the press release (more than the specs and $) rather than just look at the pictures.
Too bad AT&T's 3g Data Network blows.
I have an ATT Air Card; it sucks most of the time.
You can already do this in most laptops if you have that device installed.
That is what I have now on my HP; just slide my sim card in the slot under the battery and I am good to go.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on January 27, 2010, 11:16:27 AM
Too bad AT&T's 3g Data Network blows.
I have an ATT Air Card; it sucks most of the time.
You can already do this in most laptops if you have that device installed.
That is what I have now on my HP; just slide my sim card in the slot under the battery and I am good to go.
good thing is that its unlocked ;-)
I was actually kind of intrested...ever so slightly (i have a ibook g4 for a toss around the living room machine...thats about to die)...until I realized that the iphone OS still doesn't multi-task :o
it sure looks to me like this won't either.
I like the idea but its hard to justify $500 for something that offers so few functional improvements on my day to day life
i thought of this-
Apple I-Pad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFNQE_TzQNI&feature=player_embedded#normal)
Just started watching the iPad intro. So far I like it. I have to see how easy it is on the eye for reading for hours. Got lots of PDF and wonder if that is readable on the iPad. For reading purposes, beats carrying my macbook pro. No, iPhone sucks for reading books and tech books. Battery life.... So many questions.... I better get back to reading about it.
i like this because it reminds me of star trek data pads.
Quote from: He Man on January 27, 2010, 01:18:49 PM
... reminds me of star trek data pads.
Me too, though I wish it reminded me more of the data tablets in Avatar
(http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k285/DanteFazio/Screenshot2010-01-27at35853PM.png)
Until then I can't walk around with a cross section of a cerebellum telling people they have a "beautiful brain" with "nice activity"
I want the top of the line max-ipad
Sorry. Had to be done.
Quote from: He Man on January 27, 2010, 01:18:49 PM
i like this because it reminds me of star trek data pads.
theres an App for that
(http://www.makeuseof.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/tricorder3.jpg)
Quote from: JEFF_H on January 27, 2010, 12:51:45 PM
i thought of this-
Me too. Unfortunate name for probably a good product.
mitt
It looks very promissing.
I am not sure what everyone was expecting but its a tablet ;D
The only big bummer for me so for that I can tell is the no multitasking. I was hoping for a more robust operating system but that will come down the road with software updates.
I am sure its going to shine in the apps department. I can see this being a pretty cool gaming platform.
I currently dont own a tablet and I love my Iphone so I can see myself picking one of these up.
Not to be too trollish about it but I really don't see the point of it. It seems like another product that is trying to create a niche for itself. And as far as the whole e-book thing, I still prefer the feel of a real paper book. Also, what was with Jobs making comments like "the key board is a dream to type on..." Really Apple, don't bruise yourself by patting your back so hard.
Quote from: pennyrobber on January 27, 2010, 03:38:26 PM
Not to be too trollish about it but I really don't see the point of it. It seems like another product that is trying to create a niche for itself. And as far as the whole e-book thing, I still prefer the feel of a real paper book. Also, what was with Jobs making comments like "the key board is a dream to type on..." Really Apple, don't bruise yourself by patting your back so hard.
It's a marketing release. No one introduces a product and says, "eh...it's ok I guess"
I'm with you though on the whole e-book thing. My eyes get tired reading from a backlit display and I find reading a book far better, so that feature does nothing for me.
At first glance, I see this as a laptop replacement for someone who really doesn't need a laptop and just wants a handheld appliance to check E-mail, surf the web etc. What really intrigues me is the development lifecycle Apple has planned. I have to think they plan on integrating this into a more complete digital household concept that they've been pushing towards.
I use my iphone for work...I access the Court's web-based document system on which we draft and file all pleadings. I text and email attorneys in my office constantly. I don't need to carry a laptop around with me because my phone does it all, and after trying other business phones I like the iphone's screen and ease of moving 'windows in windows' with two fingers a lot. (like scrolling inside an email but not scrolling the entire screen).
I did not think something bigger would be of any interest...except...now document production for certain proceedings are going to be electronic...meaning sitting at trial table we will be scrolling through multiple hundreds of pages on a screen for termination of parental rights hearings. a laptop is more than I need for my staff...a notebook would work ok. This could cover all needs in one device. Accessing the Court system for pleadings and orders though the net is great here too. I have no problems with ATT 3g in the DC/Baltimore metro area at all.
As a work tool for our particular needs it just may be perfect. I'll try one and let one attorney try one before equipping them all.
Our needs are quite unique...but there's at least one example of practical, non-facebook use. ;D
Here's another possible use (emphasis is mine):
Quote from: ato memphis on January 26, 2010, 07:20:54 AMAt SMU, for example {I am currently in law school at this fine establishment}, the vast majority of law students (more than 95%) use laptops for class notes as well as exams. Similar numbers are probably found in the non-hard-science undergraduate classes. Its just too difficult to use a laptop to take notes for calculus, etc, so that's not a target market really.
Quote from: somegirl on January 27, 2010, 04:44:33 PM
Here's another possible use (emphasis is mine):
I agree - for notes and ideas and meetings about math and engineering, it would be neat - but I probably need something more like a laptop, with a spreadsheet function + drawing function at the same time. It would be really cool if they were integrated and parametric. Maybe I should just make an app for that ;D
mitt
I am sure that my SO and I will end up with at least one. We cannot seem to resist the siren song of shiny new Apple products.
BUT, I was one of those suckers that bought the first Iphone. I hope to ignore the hype and wait for the second generation Ipad to come out...
but it is soooo shiny and nifty and new...
Steve Jobs you wily bastard...
Quote from: hihhs on January 27, 2010, 08:55:02 PM
I am sure that my SO and I will end up with at least one. We cannot seem to resist the siren song of shiny new Apple products.
BUT, I was one of those suckers that bought the first Iphone. I hope to ignore the hype and wait for the second generation Ipad to come out...
but it is soooo shiny and nifty and new...
Steve Jobs you wily bastard...
I still have the original edge Iphone. I am not to tempted to pickup the new one yet considering the original one still can do 99% of what the new one can do... okay but slower =)
If people are in the e-book market and are going to drop $489 on a Kindle DX then it should be a no brainer to pick up the $499 Ipad. HD Screen, Movies, email, much better web browser, gaming , tons of apps... the list goes on and on and on.
(http://www.ubergizmo.com/photos/2009/5/kindle-dx/kindle-dx-06.jpg)
(http://images.apple.com/ipad/gallery/images/gallery-software-ibooks-20100127.jpg)
New iPad...With Wings!!
This is perfect. ;D
This is exactly how I feel about how apple missed the mark on this one >:(
Hitler responds to the iPad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQnT0zp8Ya4#normal)
I went through the engadget live blog of the event.
so...I refuse to buy one. What is the use of a tablet computer for browsing the web if it still can't run flash [bang]
I'm sorry steve, but it isn't the WHOLE internet and the best web experience if you can't go to any site that has flash.
Quote from: Le Pirate on January 28, 2010, 05:21:15 AM
so...I refuse to buy one. What is the use of a tablet computer for browsing the web if it still can't run flash [bang]
I'm sorry steve, but it isn't the WHOLE internet and the best web experience if you can't go to any site that has flash.
first of all, flash needs to go away...
secondly, i've been doing some testing at work with 64-bit windows and the lack of flash (support for 64-bit browsers) hasn't hindered my browsing experience one bit. in fact, one could argue that the lack of invasive flash ads has actually improved it. ;D
native html5 video will soon replace flash video players... complex user interfaces never should've been written in flash.
basically, the lack of flash isn't a deal breaker for me... it doesn't seem to bother (a majority of) the current iphone users, either...
I don't understand why you would buy this for reading books.
How about a Kindle or Nook?
They are cheaper and specifically designed for reading books with a killer battery life.
Now......I can see Statler's justification as it would work very well for his job.
Quote from: derby on January 28, 2010, 05:48:09 AM
first of all, flash needs to go away...
secondly, i've been doing some testing at work with 64-bit windows and the lack of flash (support for 64-bit browsers) hasn't hindered my browsing experience one bit. in fact, one could argue that the lack of invasive flash ads has actually improved it. ;D
native html5 video will soon replace flash video players... complex user interfaces never should've been written in flash.
basically, the lack of flash isn't a deal breaker for me... it doesn't seem to bother (a majority of) the current iphone users, either...
you obviously spend no time on NewGrounds.com
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/13264 (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/13264)
Quote from: ducatiz on January 28, 2010, 06:06:24 AM
you obviously spend no time on NewGrounds.com
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/13264 (http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/13264)
yes, i don't... ;D
The top of the line Kindle 2 is only $10 cheaper than the lowest level iPad. However, the Kindle DX for $489 comes with 3G, the iPad with 3G is $629. So, if you're willing to pay another $150 for web browsing, there you go...
Quote from: cyrus buelton on January 28, 2010, 05:59:16 AM
I don't understand why you would buy this just for reading books.
How about a Kindle or Nook?
They are cheaper and specifically designed for reading books with a killer battery life.
fixed that for ya...
i know people that were holding off from buying a kindle/nook to see what the ipad was going to do.
the ones that
were originally considering a kindle/nook are treating it like a $260 discount on the ipad.
if you just need an e-reader, the ipad isn't for you... if you want an e-reader with a larger screen (than kindle/nook/iphone/itouch), the ability to run other applications, browse the innernetz, watch movies, listen to music, etc., the ipad isn't such a bad deal.
The new Kindle DX has the same size screen (9.7") as the iPad. Just saying. It still can't run apps and browse the net. I have no interest in an ereader or the iPad...
Quote from: NAKID on January 28, 2010, 06:24:51 AM
The new Kindle DX has the same size screen (9.7") as the iPad. Just saying. It still can't run apps and browse the net. I have no interest in an ereader or the iPad...
My wife just bought herself the one that Barnes and Noble supports (I think the kindle? Who knows), but it is backordered for over a month.
She compared both models and went with this one, can't recall her logic. I think it came down to more free books and broader support for other formats. It seemed like the Amazon was limited to Amazon only.
I am happy with my Blackberry for portable wireless needs as I can read the news or check my facebook, send a quick picture, whatever.
Anything else is what my laptop is for. But that's just me.
Yup. My BB is fine for what I do. I don't think the iPad will fill any existing niche. Not for what it can do and for it's size.
There are 10" netbooks out there that will do everything the iPad does and then some, with lager storage, considerably lower price, while sacrificing a bit of thickness...
Progress
(http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/488173112_qKof7-L-2.jpg)
Quote from: NAKID on January 28, 2010, 06:46:46 AM
Yup. My BB is fine for what I do. I don't think the iPad will fill any existing niche. Not for what it can do and for it's size.
There are 10" netbooks out there that will do everything the iPad does and then some, with lager storage, considerably lower price, while sacrificing a bit of thickness...
...and battery life.
http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-NB205-N311-10-1-Inch-Frost-Netbook/dp/B002BDUATU (http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-NB205-N311-10-1-Inch-Frost-Netbook/dp/B002BDUATU)
Netbooks are getting much better in terms of battery usage. So, yeah, it sacrifices "a little" battery life while being able to accomplish much more...
Quote from: MrIncredible on January 28, 2010, 07:57:33 AM
Progress
(http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/488173112_qKof7-L-2.jpg)
[laugh] [laugh]
add me to the "I read books on paper camp"
I was thinking of this as a tablet computer more than anything else.
Quote from: derby on January 28, 2010, 05:48:09 AM
first of all, flash needs to go away...
secondly, i've been doing some testing at work with 64-bit windows and the lack of flash (support for 64-bit browsers) hasn't hindered my browsing experience one bit. in fact, one could argue that the lack of invasive flash ads has actually improved it. ;D
native html5 video will soon replace flash video players... complex user interfaces never should've been written in flash.
basically, the lack of flash isn't a deal breaker for me... it doesn't seem to bother (a majority of) the current iphone users, either...
While I won't argue that flash needs to go away....
the fact is, that it's still every where.
first two examples that come to mind off the top of my head.
I can't pay my VW loan over the iphone...their site is flash.
Can't check my favorite weather site either (usairnet.com aviation forecast)....flash.
yeah it sucks...but it's still out there and in use. Plus I like flash games too! ;D
Quote from: NAKID on January 28, 2010, 06:46:46 AM
Yup. My BB is fine for what I do. I don't think the iPad will fill any existing niche. Not for what it can do and for it's size.
There are 10" netbooks out there that will do everything the iPad does and then some, with lager storage, considerably lower price, while sacrificing a bit of thickness...
i think they are appraoching this the wrong way. Pad technology should aim to replace netbooks completely, not fill a gap.
(http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/4/2010/01/500x_mr_incredible_tablet_01.jpg)
Quote from: derby on January 28, 2010, 08:12:55 AM
...and battery life.
My Dell Netbook's battery life is pretty damn good.
Quote from: ROBsS4R on January 27, 2010, 03:29:03 PM
I am sure its going to shine in the apps department. I can see this being a pretty cool gaming platform.
I currently dont own a tablet and I love my Iphone so I can see myself picking one of these up.
Would you consider the iPhone a "cool gaming platform"? From a game developer's perspective, the iPhone is a crappy platform not because of the hardware or the software, but because it is next to impossible to differentiate your quality $5-10 game from the tens of thousands of crappy, derivative or just ripped off games. I was really hopeful about the platform but unless Apple can change the way that the App Store works, don't expect anything really innovative as it is just too much of a gamble to develop for that platform.
There will be a few big games from the major players, but almost every real game developer that I am know is getting crushed in the iPhone space.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on January 28, 2010, 05:59:16 AM
I don't understand why you would buy this for reading books.
How about a Kindle or Nook?
They are cheaper and specifically designed for reading books with a killer battery life.
Now......I can see Statler's justification as it would work very well for his job.
IPad being backlit, I am not sure how pleasant experience it would be for reading books without straining your eyes. That is my issue with it and see the Kindle DX better for ebooks. I am curious to see it in person see if the books have some adjustment that may make it easy on the eyes.
(Camera would have been nice and I am sure multitask will come along in due time)
Rather than cut and paste the HTML from my first thoughts on the subject, I'll just point to my pre-formatted iPad musings here:
http://trenner.blogspot.com/2010/01/this-isnt-hitlers-ipad.html (http://trenner.blogspot.com/2010/01/this-isnt-hitlers-ipad.html)
In particular, I found a Gizmodo article that mentions Jef Raskin (http://gizmodo.com/5452501/the-apple-tablet-interface-must-be-like-this), and which was written prior to the iPad announcement, especially illuminating.
[popcorn]
Well Put
I can think of a few idea's off the top of my head for things you can do with the Ipad that you can not do on a netbook, laptop, ebook reader etc.
How about art applications like painting programs or think about the music implementations such as making a cool DJ Turn table with it or a mixer?
Call me crazy but since I bought the Iphone which is the only apple product I own so I am no Fan Boy. I have been always telling myself... you know a bigger version of the iphone would be kick ass. I may be drinking the coolaid.
You know my GPS just died. If I had a data plan enable Ipad I would simply be using that right now. There are going to be countless applications that are going to make the ipad a very enjoyable device. Niche yes... But very enjoyable [thumbsup]
Does the iPad have a GPS receiver?
Assisted GPS (Wi-Fi + 3G model)
http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/ (http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/)
Ahhhh. That's what I figured. I can do something like that on my BB even though it does not have a GPS receiver...
apple should have kept it in development for another year, at least until the could come up with a better name for it.
Quote from: NAKID on January 28, 2010, 03:15:08 PM
Ahhhh. That's what I figured. I can do something like that on my BB even though it does not have a GPS receiver...
What do you mean GPS Receiver?
What model BB do you have?
Maybe I am confused by your post, but my old 8310 had GPS and my Bold 9000 has it too.
Google Maps is real time GPS.
Quote from: herm (not herb) on January 28, 2010, 04:01:20 PM
apple should have kept it in development for another year, at least until the could come up with a better name for it.
Like, iCube or iTab.
I have the Storm...
So does this thing have real WiFi or just AT&T 3G?
Quote from: D Paoli on January 30, 2010, 09:47:28 AM
So does this thing have real WiFi or just AT&T 3G?
basic model has 802.11n wifi, top model has both.
an iPad mounted on a waterproof clear tankbag with GPS, routemapping, and trip computer with G counter, etc. would be cool!
Quote from: ducatiz on January 30, 2010, 10:01:09 AM
basic model has 802.11n wifi, top model has both.
...plus bluetooth.
Quote from: derby on January 30, 2010, 10:43:19 AM
...plus bluetooth.
No, it's an Apple, they call it Bluegums