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Title: Welding helmet
Post by: He Man on February 01, 2010, 07:31:45 PM
Was looking for an autodark helmet until i found this little thingy!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320479669445&rvr_id=&crlp=1_263602_263622&UA=%3F (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320479669445&rvr_id=&crlp=1_263602_263622&UA=%3F)*F%3F&GUID=4a43e1701260a02652c06a20ff419b3d&itemid=320479669445&ff4=263602_263622

Chin operated to open to clear lens and also stay open with a flip.

I like it much better than autodark for the simple fact that im a bit oldschool and do not trust my eyes to technology over mechanical parts.
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: ducpainter on February 02, 2010, 03:03:36 AM
You're too young to be 'old school'. ;D

My experience is if you use a manual helmet you'll get more flash than with an auto dark.

YMMV
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: Porsche Monkey on February 02, 2010, 03:23:07 AM
Ive used both and as much as I hate to say it, I agree with Nate.  A good quality auto dark is teh shit.
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: cbartlett419 on February 02, 2010, 04:06:15 AM
and screw having anything strapped to my chin while I'm trying to move around and shit, that has got to be awkward.
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: Monsterlover on February 02, 2010, 05:35:11 AM
That helmet is designed for guys that get paid welding piece work
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: triangleforge on February 02, 2010, 05:49:15 AM
Quote from: Monsterlover on February 02, 2010, 05:35:11 AM
That helmet is designed for guys that get paid welding piece work

I thought the same thing watching the video.

I'm intrigued though, because I'm still ISO a helmet I really like. I've got a pretty good manual helmet, but these days tend to grab the cheap-o autodark because I've gotten addicted to the convenience of it. The thing I don't like about it is that I don't get as good a look at the weld as I'd like -- even at a low setting, I think it's too dark to see anything but the arc clearly, so I don't have as much control over the pool & bead as I'd like.

Anyone have a recommendation for a reasonably priced auto dark helmet? Otherwise, this might be worth exploring...
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: RVA Duc on February 02, 2010, 05:57:35 AM
I bet the guys who use that have a strong jaw
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: NorDog on February 02, 2010, 07:42:13 AM
Quote from: cbartlett419 on February 02, 2010, 04:06:15 AM
and screw having anything strapped to my chin while I'm trying to move around and shit, that has got to be awkward.

Why do you wear a welding helmet when you shit?
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: Monsterlover on February 02, 2010, 07:46:09 AM
Shields his eyes from UV and the brightness, what else?

;D
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: cbartlett419 on February 02, 2010, 08:23:39 AM
Quote from: NorDog on February 02, 2010, 07:42:13 AM
Why do you wear a welding helmet when you shit?

can't ever be too careful
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on February 02, 2010, 08:30:01 AM
Quote from: NorDog on February 02, 2010, 07:42:13 AM
Why do you wear a welding helmet when you shit?

Because my junk is radiant.
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: NorDog on February 02, 2010, 08:39:27 AM
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 02, 2010, 08:30:01 AM
Because my junk is radiant.

Man, that must be some serious fallout.
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: akmnstr on February 02, 2010, 09:11:20 AM
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 02, 2010, 08:30:01 AM
Because my junk is radiant.

Ya must be able to light up a room.  I bet it's real fun at parties.   [clap] [clap] [clap]
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on February 02, 2010, 09:17:58 AM
Quote from: akmnstr on February 02, 2010, 09:11:20 AM
Ya must be able to light up a room.  I bet it's real fun at parties.   [clap] [clap] [clap]

It's like a lightsaber, except it takes way longer for the burning pain to set in.
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: He Man on February 02, 2010, 10:36:19 AM
When i take a shit, its like a mini gamma ray burst. You need to shut off all electronics within the nearby area.

Ive heard of the autodark featuere not working for low light conditions, or its kinda glitchy for TIG welding or welding in the cold. Both of which im doing right now....well the TIG welding is more of me make the beast with two backsing up metal more than anything. :P


also, theres a lot of good reviews on the northerntools autodark helmet if anyone is interested.

$49.99
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200311850_200311850 (http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_6970_200311850_200311850)

for $99.99 you get a bigger screen.
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: NorDog on February 02, 2010, 10:40:58 AM
Quote from: He Man on February 02, 2010, 10:36:19 AM
When i take a shit, its like a mini gamma ray burst. You need to shut off all electronics within the nearby area.

Ive heard of the autodark featuere not working for low light conditions

Then turn on the light before you sit down.
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: He Man on February 02, 2010, 10:42:24 AM
Quote from: NorDog on February 02, 2010, 10:40:58 AM
Then turn on the light before you sit down.

THis is kind of werid, but, i dont have a light in my bathroom.

Maybe a flashlight?
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: Monsterlover on February 02, 2010, 10:46:44 AM
I'd beware of any AD helmet that's only $50.

I've used them, they blow.

IMO of course.

My favorite is when your contorted, welding and you move the sensor into a "shadow" area (no direct line of sight to the weld) and the dark shuts off and you get flashed.

I have also found they do not darken enough for use with my TIG machine.  I see spots afterward.

I just use a regular helmet from Lincoln with the big view window and I love it.

LOVE it.
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: He Man on February 02, 2010, 10:50:54 AM
Quote from: Monsterlover on February 02, 2010, 10:46:44 AM
I'd beware of any AD helmet that's only $50.

I've used them, they blow.

IMO of course.

My favorite is when your contorted, welding and you move the sensor into a "shadow" area (no direct line of sight to the weld) and the dark shuts off and you get flashed.

I have also found they do not darken enough for use with my TIG machine.  I see spots afterward.

I just use a regular helmet from Lincoln with the big view window and I love it.

LOVE it.

its shit like that that makes the chin operated one so cool. I dont want to get flashed I got flashed once already this month because my i had to scratch my balls and accidently stepped on the pedal.
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: Monsterlover on February 02, 2010, 10:54:36 AM
[laugh]

yeah, that shit happens.

You have to be deliberate when you have your foot on the pedal and need to stop and do something else.

Like scratch your nuts.

What's wrong with a std helmet that you'd position your torch and filler, flip it down and gas it?

Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: He Man on February 02, 2010, 11:35:27 AM
Quote from: Monsterlover on February 02, 2010, 10:54:36 AM
[laugh]

yeah, that shit happens.

You have to be deliberate when you have your foot on the pedal and need to stop and do something else.

Like scratch your nuts.

What's wrong with a std helmet that you'd position your torch and filler, flip it down and gas it?



it sucks for stick welding when i have no idea what the make the beast with two backs its going to touch. i kinda have to use 2 hands put it near, strike an arc and hope i didnt move too much. That and my current helmet is a cheapie that just aint comfortable.
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: Monsterlover on February 02, 2010, 11:44:03 AM
Have a local welding supply house?

Stop there and ask questions about AD helmets.

They'll tell you the pros/cons of the cheap ones.

Re: stick welding. . . 

never did like it much :)  Im a MIG/TIG type of guy.
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: He Man on February 02, 2010, 12:24:03 PM
Quote from: Monsterlover on February 02, 2010, 11:44:03 AM
Have a local welding supply house?

Stop there and ask questions about AD helmets.

They'll tell you the pros/cons of the cheap ones.

Re: stick welding. . . 

never did like it much :)  Im a MIG/TIG type of guy.

Stick is great for industrial stuff...like building a stunt cage for a monster.  [evil]
Seriously thouhg, i just bought a MIG for pure simplicity. Just trying to get a good deal on a gas tank right now.
As for tig, im still waiting to find a good priced one so i dont have to go to my brohters work to use.

Cant find something well priced in the used market right now so im holding off on actually buying one.
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: 1KDS on February 02, 2010, 03:02:01 PM
We have a Kobalt ad at work from home cheapo and it sucks, get flashed all the time.  I spend more time make the beast with two backsing with it trying to get it to work or get stuck in the dark position than I do welding.
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: ducpainter on February 02, 2010, 03:18:48 PM
These work.

http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_WW/SpeedglasGlobal/Home/ (http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_WW/SpeedglasGlobal/Home/)

(http://solutions.3m.com/3MContentRetrievalAPI/BlobServlet?locale=en_WW&lmd=1216305470000&assetId=1180601987315&assetType=MMM_Image&blobAttribute=ImageFile)
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: Monsterlover on February 02, 2010, 05:54:55 PM
More than $50 though.

Not a bad way to go.
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on February 02, 2010, 06:49:20 PM
I've never had an issue with my autodark-it's adjustable for sensitivity, etc. Though iirc, it was $400.


Only get one set of eyes.
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: TiNi on February 03, 2010, 12:40:40 AM
i thought the title of this thread was Wedding Helmet [laugh]

....it's early  ;D
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: ducpainter on February 03, 2010, 02:49:08 AM
Quote from: Monsterlover on February 02, 2010, 05:54:55 PM
More than $50 though.

Not a bad way to go.
True...

but anyone that thinks they're gonna get an auto dark that works for $fiddy...

is delusional. ;)
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: Monsterlover on February 03, 2010, 03:10:33 AM
That was the gist of my posts here. . .

I was just trying to be nice about it ;)

You get what you pay for, as MrI mentioned.  A nice costly AD helmet will be the shizzle, and a cheap AD helmet will be cheap, and you'll damage your eyes.
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: ducpainter on February 03, 2010, 03:16:37 AM
Quote from: Monsterlover on February 03, 2010, 03:10:33 AM
That was the gist of my posts here. . .

I was just trying to be nice about it ;)

You get what you pay for, as MrI mentioned.  A nice costly AD helmet will be the shizzle, and a cheap AD helmet will be cheap, and you'll damage your eyes.
I wasn't trying to be not nice...


Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: Monsterlover on February 03, 2010, 03:50:56 AM
Maybe "nice" was the wrong word.

But you are correct in your use of "delusional"

;D
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on February 03, 2010, 08:10:25 AM
I'll be not nice.

He Man-stop buying tools.

It's a cinch you'll get a job out of state when you graduate. Moving all that shit sucks. Save your money, buy a Honda, get a second job, and pay off any student loans early. You're too poor to own such an expensive bike  :-*
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: He Man on February 03, 2010, 10:04:37 AM
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 03, 2010, 08:10:25 AM
I'll be not nice.

He Man-stop buying tools.

It's a cinch you'll get a job out of state when you graduate. Moving all that shit sucks. Save your money, buy a Honda, get a second job, and pay off any student loans early. You're too poor to own such an expensive bike  :-*

LOL.

2006 Yamaha R6, cause Hondas dont fit well.
Title: Re: Welding helmet
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on February 03, 2010, 10:21:44 AM
Quote from: He Man on February 03, 2010, 10:04:37 AM
LOL.

2006 Yamaha R6, cause Hondas dont fit well.

Too new. Bike must have a book value of less than your cheapest textbook from last semester.


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