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Moto Board => Accessories & Mods => Topic started by: Punx Clever on February 07, 2010, 07:43:26 PM



Title: Air intake
Post by: Punx Clever on February 07, 2010, 07:43:26 PM
I'm liking the looks of pod filters.

Anyone want to share their experiences with the tpo kit... issues with rain, etc.


Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: kopfjäger on February 07, 2010, 07:55:34 PM
You can just go with K&N filters. No need to use the TPO kit.

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/feral010.jpg)

(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/Ducshop027-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: Punx Clever on February 08, 2010, 04:23:08 AM
size? p/n?


Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: Fergus on February 08, 2010, 06:04:21 AM
size? p/n?
http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/shop/catalog/ducati/fuel.html (http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/shop/catalog/ducati/fuel.html)
has some ca-cycleworks branded ones that I've heard are very good and a great price.

I'll be doing this mod myself in the next couple of weeks...

I think the K&N part number is RU-1070
http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=RU-1070 (http://www.knfilters.com/search/product.aspx?Prod=RU-1070)



Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: yotogi on February 08, 2010, 10:47:14 AM
If you go pods with no DP ECU and PC3 on an S2R1000 you are in for some fun.

Be 100% sure you know what you are getting into. Have you read the open/closed loop sticky? Have you searched for the endless struggles of some trying to get the fueling right on a stock S2R1000?

Now, if you are going to go and tune the bike, default pods will give you a boost, but the TPO kit will help even more with their nice intakes.


Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: junior varsity on February 08, 2010, 11:32:55 AM
Don't know about the new-fangled Monsters, but on the 'classics', you'd need to figure out where to put the battery, igniters, and coils.


Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: Raux on February 08, 2010, 11:56:06 AM
Don't know about the new-fangled Monsters, but on the 'classics', you'd need to figure out where to put the battery, igniters, and coils.

the ecu, coils (i think), battery, main fuse all hook up to the new airbox, but with some AL fab work i'm sure not too hard to figure out.


Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: junior varsity on February 08, 2010, 11:59:49 AM
You would likely just make a big "U" bracket just like on the old school Monsters. Example:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JVTH0ovxaFY/ReRlH4HkPSI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/SF3a9t_b4zA/s1600-h/280107d.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JVTH0ovxaFY/ReRlH4HkPSI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/SF3a9t_b4zA/s1600-h/280107d.jpg)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JVTH0ovxaFY/ReRZyIHkPNI/AAAAAAAAADY/CbA1j0tRees/s1600-h/coils.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JVTH0ovxaFY/ReRZyIHkPNI/AAAAAAAAADY/CbA1j0tRees/s1600-h/coils.jpg)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JVTH0ovxaFY/ReRZyIHkPOI/AAAAAAAAADg/rNmNEqZKmmE/s1600-h/pods.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JVTH0ovxaFY/ReRZyIHkPOI/AAAAAAAAADg/rNmNEqZKmmE/s1600-h/pods.jpg)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JVTH0ovxaFY/ReRZyYHkPPI/AAAAAAAAADo/x59jOSD2h98/s1600-h/0701.jpg (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JVTH0ovxaFY/ReRZyYHkPPI/AAAAAAAAADo/x59jOSD2h98/s1600-h/0701.jpg)

Not mine, a really well done M900 rebuild (eonan's), here: http://m900.blogspot.com/ (http://m900.blogspot.com/)


Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: Punx Clever on February 08, 2010, 12:30:47 PM
The plan for the ecu is a nemisis, and i'm sure that i can get all of the mounting stuff figured out too.  Granted this is all way down the road.  i guess my main concern was water intake.

also, even though i hated fluids, i understand that the rounded corners on the velocity stacks would improve airflow.  IC engines tells me that length of the stacs is a tuning issue.

very nice rebuild pics

thanks guys


Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: Raux on February 08, 2010, 01:20:59 PM
The plan for the ecu is a nemisis, and i'm sure that i can get all of the mounting stuff figured out too.  Granted this is all way down the road.  i guess my main concern was water intake.

also, even though i hated fluids, i understand that the rounded corners on the velocity stacks would improve airflow.  IC engines tells me that length of the stacs is a tuning issue.

very nice rebuild pics

thanks guys
i picked up some old 916 intake horns in case i wanted to do this. they fit almost perfectly


Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: yotogi on February 08, 2010, 02:03:47 PM
The plan for the ecu is a nemisis, and i'm sure that i can get all of the mounting stuff figured out too.  Granted this is all way down the road.  i guess my main concern was water intake.

also, even though i hated fluids, i understand that the rounded corners on the velocity stacks would improve airflow.  IC engines tells me that length of the stacs is a tuning issue.

Yeah, full ECU replace and remap will solve all the issues with going to pods.

Really feel like I have been plugging TPO all day, but I love their stuff. Here are their intakes as well as their claims.

http://www.tpoparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=59 (http://www.tpoparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=59)

They have a new set tuned for top end too!

http://www.tpoparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=119 (http://www.tpoparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=119)


Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: junior varsity on February 08, 2010, 02:52:25 PM
Unfortunately for carb guys, I don't think any of their stuff is applicable (intake-wise). They market mostly for newer bikes, especially in regards to axles, swingarm pivots and the rest made of titanium, and with engine kits. They do have a vent-pod removal kit though, so they don't completely discount the 'classics'.


Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: stopintime on February 08, 2010, 02:53:29 PM
I think my S2R 800 wants the TPO Beast-R kit.

Has anyone done this and can tell me what, if anything, is attached to the air box? Which I assume will be gone.
The parts catalogue tells me nothing - except that the coils seems to be bolted on to the box.


Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: kopfjäger on February 08, 2010, 07:38:18 PM
The plan for the ecu is a nemisis

When you make the move, look at the Microtec.

http://www.microtec.cc/cms/en/component/content/article/18 (http://www.microtec.cc/cms/en/component/content/article/18)


Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: brad black on February 08, 2010, 11:00:26 PM
i'd put some sort of trumpet on it.  you could try some of the wasp ones -   http://www.waspworks.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1

ducshop sell a trumpet for the 2v models too - http://www.ducshop.com/product_view.php?cat=7&pid=321. (http://www.ducshop.com/product_view.php?cat=7&pid=321.)


Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: yotogi on February 09, 2010, 05:51:54 AM
I think my S2R 800 wants the TPO Beast-R kit.

Has anyone done this and can tell me what, if anything, is attached to the air box? Which I assume will be gone.
The parts catalogue tells me nothing - except that the coils seems to be bolted on to the box.

I think that you only have to find a new place for the coil. The breather box will need to be sorted as you will not have an airbox to attach to, but you can always just go to a crankcase breather to solve that.


Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: NorDog on February 09, 2010, 06:29:11 AM


also, even though i hated fluids...



You "hated" fluids?  Does that mean you're okay with them now?

 [drink]


Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: Punx Clever on February 09, 2010, 07:06:42 AM
fluids = ME 309 at Purdue university... Fluid mechanics.  If you can pass that class you can earn a degree in me from purdue.

I do feel better about fluids after having made it through heat and mass transfer though.


Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: COP TZR on February 09, 2010, 07:37:06 AM
You would likely just make a big "U" bracket just like on the old school Monsters. Example:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JVTH0ovxaFY/ReRlH4HkPSI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/SF3a9t_b4zA/s1600-h/280107d.jpg (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_JVTH0ovxaFY/ReRlH4HkPSI/AAAAAAAAAEQ/SF3a9t_b4zA/s1600-h/280107d.jpg)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JVTH0ovxaFY/ReRZyIHkPNI/AAAAAAAAADY/CbA1j0tRees/s1600-h/coils.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JVTH0ovxaFY/ReRZyIHkPNI/AAAAAAAAADY/CbA1j0tRees/s1600-h/coils.jpg)

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JVTH0ovxaFY/ReRZyIHkPOI/AAAAAAAAADg/rNmNEqZKmmE/s1600-h/pods.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JVTH0ovxaFY/ReRZyIHkPOI/AAAAAAAAADg/rNmNEqZKmmE/s1600-h/pods.jpg)

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JVTH0ovxaFY/ReRZyYHkPPI/AAAAAAAAADo/x59jOSD2h98/s1600-h/0701.jpg (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_JVTH0ovxaFY/ReRZyYHkPPI/AAAAAAAAADo/x59jOSD2h98/s1600-h/0701.jpg)

Not mine, a really well done M900 rebuild (eonan's), here: http://m900.blogspot.com/ (http://m900.blogspot.com/)

that is one awesome blog!!!!!! 


Title: Re: Air intake
Post by: stopintime on February 09, 2010, 08:37:32 AM
I think that you only have to find a new place for the coil. The breather box will need to be sorted as you will not have an airbox to attach to, but you can always just go to a crankcase breather to solve that.

Yes - thanks - I got that confimed from TPO. One of the coils must be relocated to an included bracket. That's it.
I must say, the speedy replies and good knowledge displayed from TPO give me some confidence in their products.


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