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Title: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: gm2 on February 20, 2010, 09:57:23 PM
Day 1

return of the pocket rocket.

1. Leon Haslam GBR Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000    1min 32.484s
2. Noriyuki Haga JPN Ducati Xerox 1198    1min 32.518s
3. Michel Fabrizio ITA Ducati Xerox 1198    1min 32.669s
4. Carlos Checa ESP Althea Ducati 1098R    1min 32.952s
5. Lorenzo Lanzi ITA DFX Ducati 1098R    1min 32.979s
6. Shane Byrne GBR Althea Ducati 1098R 1min 33.147s
7. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 33.190s
8. Max Biaggi ITA Aprilia Alitalia Racing RSV-4 1min 33.263s
9. Max Neukirchner GER Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 33.430s
10. Cal Crutchlow GBR Yamaha Sterilgarda YZF R1 1min 33.515s
11. Troy Corser AUS BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 33.766s
12. James Toseland GBR Yamaha Sterilgarda YZF R1 1min 33.839s
13. Jonathan Rea GBR Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 33.846s
14. Joshua Brookes AUS Echo-CRS Honda CBR1000RR 1min 33.935s
15. Jakub Smrz CZE PATA B&G Racing Ducati 1098R    1min 33.937s
16. Ruben Xaus   ESP BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 34.246s
17. Andrew Pitt    AUS Reitwagen BMW S1000RR 1min 34.301s
18. Leon Camier GBR Aprilia Alitalia Racing RSV-4 1min 34.307s
19. Chris Vermeulen   AUS Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 1min 34.399s
20. Tom Sykes GBR Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 1min 34.417s
21. Roland Resch AUT Reitwagen BMW S1000RR 1min 34.684s
22. Vittorio Iannuzzo ITA SCI Honda CBR1000RR 1min 34.991s
23. Roger Lee Hayden USA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 37.598s
24. Matteo Baiocco ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 37.657s


what broken ankle?

1. Kenan Sofuoglu TUR HANNspree Ten Kate Honda CBR600RR 1min 34.691s
2. Katsuaki Fujiwara JPN Kawasaki Provec ZX-6R 1min 35.042s
3. Michele Pirro ITA HANNspree Ten Kate Honda CBR600RR 1min 35.536s
4. Fabien Foret FRA Lorenzini Kawasaki ZX-6R 1min 35.608s
5. Eugene Laverty IRL Parkalgar Honda CBR600RR 1min 35.641s
6. Sebastien Charpentier FRA Triumph BE1 Racing 675 1min 35.725s
7. Joan Lascorz    ESP Kawasaki Provec ZX-6R 1min 36.471s
8. David Salom ESP Triumph BE1 Racing 675 1min 36.509s
9. Miguel Praia POR Parkalgar Honda CBR600RR 1min 36.591s
10. Chaz Davies GBR Triumph BE1 Racing 675 1min 37.014s
11. Massimo Roccoli   ITA Intermoto Czech Honda CBR600RR    1min 37.328s
12. Robbin Harms ITA Harms Benjan Honda CBR600RR 1min 38.203s
13. Danilo Dell'Omo ITA Kuja Honda CBR600RR 1min 38.221s
14. Jason Di Salvo USA Triumph BE1 Racing 675 1min 38.250s
15. Gino Rea GBR Intermoto Czech Honda CBR600RR    1min 38.879s
16. Alexander Lundh SWE Cresto Guide Honda CBR600RR 1min 39.283s
17. Paolo Cazzola ITA Kuja Honda CBR600RR 1min 41.269s



Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: Spidey on February 21, 2010, 06:53:22 AM
Damn, look at that parade of Ducatis after Haslam.  IIRC, PI is one of the tracks at which the Suke does well.

And after Rea's "I don't want to go to GP just b/c I'm British.  I want to go when I get a good ride" comment yesterday, he followed that up with being the 5th of 7th Brits, faster than Sykes on that POS Kawi and rookie Camier (who I don't know has ever seen PI).

I hope RLH isn't an embarassment this year.  His bike sucks and he doesn't know any of the tracks. 

I forgot that Pitt was in WSBK on a BMW. 

Again, Crutchlow is faster than JT.  Anyone wanna put some $ on how those two finish the year relative to one another?


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: Spidey on February 21, 2010, 07:28:21 AM
Day 2 Testing -- Sunday

That's the Rea we're used to.   [thumbsup]

Superbike
1. Carlos Checa ESP Althea Ducati 1098R 1min 31.959s
2. Michel Fabrizio ITA Ducati Xerox 1198 1min 32.349s
3. Jonathan Rea GBR Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 32.544s
4. Shane Byrne GBR Althea Ducati 1098R 1min 32.671s
5. Max Neukirchner GER Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 32.735s
6. Max Biaggi ITA Aprilia Alitalia Racing RSV-4 1min 32.832s
7. Noriyuki Haga JPN Ducati Xerox 1198 1min 32.835s
8. Jakub Smrz CZE PATA B&G Racing Ducati 1098R 1min 32.912s
9. Leon Haslam GBR Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 32.925s
10. James Toseland GBR Yamaha Sterilgarda YZF R1 1min 33.135s
11. Tom Sykes GBR Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 1min 33.222s
12. Troy Corser AUS BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 33.299s
13. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 33.419s
14. Cal Crutchlow GBR Yamaha Sterilgarda YZF R1 1min 33.444s
15. Ruben Xaus ESP BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 33.498s
16. Lorenzo Lanzi ITA DFX Ducati 1098R 1min 33.631s
17. Chris Vermeulen AUS Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 1min 33.648s
18. Andrew Pitt AUS Reitwagen BMW S1000RR 1min 33.699s
19. Joshua Brookes AUS Echo-CRS Honda CBR1000RR 1min 33.710s
20. Leon Camier GBR Aprilia Alitalia Racing RSV-4 1min 33.852s
21. Roland Resch AUT Reitwagen BMW S1000RR 1min 34.361s
22. Vittorio Iannuzzo ITA SCI Honda CBR1000RR 1min 35.260s
23. Matteo Baiocco ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 36.087s
24. Roger Lee Hayden USA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 36.155s

Supersport
1. Joan Lascorz ESP Kawasaki Provec ZX-6R 1min 35.385s
2. Kenan Sofuoglu TUR HANNspree Ten Kate Honda CBR600RR 1min 35.579s
3. Katsuaki Fujiwara JPN Kawasaki Provec ZX-6R 1min 35.766s
4. Eugene Laverty IRL Parkalgar Honda CBR600RR 1min 36.070s
5. Fabien Foret FRA Lorenzini Kawasaki ZX-6R 1min 36.158s
6. Michele Pirro ITA HANNspree Ten Kate Honda CBR600RR 1min 36.231s
7. David Salom ESP Triumph BE1 Racing 675 1min 36.344s
8. Miguel Praia POR Parkalgar Honda CBR600RR 1min 36.445s
9. Chaz Davies GBR Triumph BE1 Racing 675 1min 37.055s
10. Sebastien Charpentier FRA Triumph BE1 Racing 675 1min 37.223s
11. Massimo Roccoli ITA Intermoto Czech Honda CBR600RR 1min 37.288s
12. Jason Di Salvo USA Triumph BE1 Racing 675 1min 37.529s
13. Gino Rea GBR Intermoto Czech Honda CBR600RR 1min 37.792s
14. Robbin Harms ITA Harms Benjan Honda CBR600RR 1min 37.957s
15. Paolo Cazzola ITA Kuja Honda CBR600RR 1min 39.303s
16. Alexander Lundh SWE Cresto Guide Honda CBR600RR 1min 39.639s
17. Danilo Dell'Omo ITA Kuja Honda CBR600RR 1min 39.711s


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: Raux on February 21, 2010, 07:56:54 AM
i know this is a stupid question, but why doesn't Ducati build a competitive bike for supersport?


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: gm2 on February 21, 2010, 10:06:33 AM
i know this is a stupid question, but why doesn't Ducati build a competitive bike for supersport?

FIM regs for WSS 2 cylinders = 750cc


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: Raux on February 21, 2010, 10:17:14 AM
i understand that. and when they moved up to the 848 that put them out of the series. but was the 748/749 ever competitive?
i mean they crush in the SBK class but why not fight for the SS class too?


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: derby on February 21, 2010, 10:46:10 AM
i understand that. and when they moved up to the 848 that put them out of the series. but was the 748/749 ever competitive?
i mean they crush in the SBK class but why not fight for the SS class too?

world championship in '97.. yeah, they were competive.


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: Raux on February 21, 2010, 10:50:25 AM
world championship in '97.. yeah, they were competive.
is anyone still campaigning a Ducati then is WSS
i know i'm ignorant, and lazy cause i could research it


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: gm2 on February 21, 2010, 11:00:44 AM
is anyone still campaigning a Ducati then is WSS
i know i'm ignorant, and lazy cause i could research it

no.  because they can't.  the max displacement for a 2-cylinder bike in WSS is 750cc. 

it's a production-based series with homologation rules: ducati doesn't make a bike that they could race in WSS even if they wanted to.


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: Raux on February 21, 2010, 11:04:48 AM
no.  because they can't.  the max displacement for a 2-cylinder bike in WSS is 750cc. 

it's a production-based series with homologation rules: ducati doesn't make a bike that they could race in WSS even if they wanted to.

exactly my point though. why did Ducati abandon the series?


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: ducpainter on February 21, 2010, 11:40:40 AM
no.  because they can't.  the max displacement for a 2-cylinder bike in WSS is 750cc. 

it's a production-based series with homologation rules: ducati doesn't make a bike that they could race in WSS even if they wanted to.
could they run a 749 or does it have to be current model production?


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: gm2 on February 21, 2010, 12:21:24 PM
could they run a 749 or does it have to be current model production?
they must be "of current production."

http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/Codes_et_reglements/REG_SBK_SS_SST_Eng.pdf (http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/Codes_et_reglements/REG_SBK_SS_SST_Eng.pdf) , pg. 172


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: gm2 on February 21, 2010, 08:58:01 PM
Phillip Island test - Overall times

1. Michel Fabrizio ITA Ducati Xerox 1198    1min 31.650s
2. Shane Byrne GBR Althea Ducati 1198 1min 31.662s
3. Jakub Smrz CZE PATA B&G Racing Ducati 1198    1min 31.680s
4. Carlos Checa ESP Althea Ducati 1198    1min 31.959s
5. Jonathan Rea GBR Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 32.175s
6. Noriyuki Haga JPN Ducati Xerox 1198    1min 32.247s
7. Leon Haslam GBR Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000    1min 32.279s
8. Max Biaggi ITA Aprilia Alitalia Racing RSV-4 1min 32.474s
9. Leon Camier GBR Aprilia Alitalia Racing RSV-4 1min 32.621s
10. Max Neukirchner GER Ten Kate Honda CBR1000RR 1min 32.691s
11. Ruben Xaus   ESP BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 32.714s
12. James Toseland GBR Yamaha Sterilgarda YZF R1 1min 32.781s
13. Troy Corser AUS BMW Motorrad S1000RR 1min 32.819s
14. Lorenzo Lanzi ITA DFX Ducati 1198    1min 32.830s
15. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alstare Suzuki GSX-R1000 1min 32.869s
16. Chris Vermeulen   AUS Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 1min 32.870s
17. Cal Crutchlow GBR Yamaha Sterilgarda YZF R1 1min 32.880s
18. Tom Sykes GBR Kawasaki SRT ZX-10R 1min 33.202s
19. Andrew Pitt    AUS Reitwagen BMW S1000RR 1min 33.699s
20. Joshua Brookes AUS Echo-CRS Honda CBR1000RR 1min 33.710
21. Roland Resch AUT Reitwagen BMW S1000RR 1min 33.943s
22. Vittorio Iannuzzo ITA SCI Honda CBR1000RR 1min 34.945s
23. Matteo Baiocco ITA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 35.663s
24. Roger Lee Hayden USA Team Pedercini Kawasaki ZX-10R 1min 35.763s


WSS: Phillip Island test - Monday AM

1. Joan Lascorz    ESP Kawasaki Provec ZX-6R 1min 34.374s
2. Eugene Laverty IRL Parkalgar Honda CBR600RR 1min 34.753s
3. Michele Pirro ITA HANNspree Ten Kate Honda CBR600RR 1min 34.793s
4. Kenan Sofuoglu TUR HANNspree Ten Kate Honda CBR600RR 1min 34.890s
5. Katsuaki Fujiwara JPN Kawasaki Provec ZX-6R 1min 34.994s
6. Fabien Foret FRA Lorenzini Kawasaki ZX-6R 1min 35.060s
7. Massimo Roccoli   ITA Intermoto Czech Honda CBR600RR    1min 35.379s
8. Robbin Harms ITA Harms Benjan Honda CBR600RR 1min 35.758s
9. David Salom ESP Triumph BE1 Racing 675 1min 35.764s
10. Chaz Davies GBR Triumph BE1 Racing 675 1min 35.906s
11. Jason Di Salvo USA Triumph BE1 Racing 675 1min 36.074s
12. Miguel Praia POR Parkalgar Honda CBR600RR 1min 36.117s
13. Sebastien Charpentier FRA Triumph BE1 Racing 675 1min 36.255s
14. Gino Rea GBR Intermoto Czech Honda CBR600RR    1min 36.624s
15. Danilo Dell'Omo ITA Kuja Honda CBR600RR 1min 38.001s
16. Alexander Lundh SWE Cresto Guide Honda CBR600RR 1min 38.340s
17. Paolo Cazzola ITA Kuja Honda CBR600RR 1min 39.108s

not too shabby for Di Salvo, considering..


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: zooom on February 22, 2010, 02:17:26 AM
funny how DiSalvo and and Davies (RLH's old racing mates in the ole' USofA) are on smaller displacement machines and laying down laps close to what RLH is on the Kawi....wonder if that is peaking to RLH's abilities or to the Kawi's disparities?!?!?!


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: zooom on February 22, 2010, 07:31:35 AM
ooops...peaking = speaking...


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: Spidey on February 22, 2010, 09:03:25 AM
Someone needs to tell Nori to focus on the track and not the camera

(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/97018-2/041MTD_0195.jpg)

Is it just me or do too many of the bikes have livery that's gonna be hard to distinguish at speed?

(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/97045-2/AltheaRacingTeam_Photo284335107292.jpg)

(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/96985-2/e436f057-dcbb-4320-a495-b806658d7430-3578E0-4256-0.JPG)

(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/97009-2/P20100221092900718.jpg)


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: gm2 on February 22, 2010, 09:23:38 AM
that's a crazy nori photo. 


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: gm2 on February 22, 2010, 12:04:51 PM
funny how DiSalvo and and Davies (RLH's old racing mates in the ole' USofA) are on smaller displacement machines and laying down laps close to what RLH is on the Kawi....wonder if that is peaking to RLH's abilities or to the Kawi's disparities?!?!?!

Pridmore: Hate seeing Rog so far back in Phillip Island. Tough with underfunded, shit Italian teams. It's something I know a bit about sorry to say.


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: Speeddog on February 22, 2010, 12:31:04 PM
Someone needs to tell Nori to focus on the track and not the camera

~~~SNIP~~~

Maybe there's a left coming up just after the right he's in?


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: Spidey on February 22, 2010, 12:38:43 PM
Dunno.  Maybe he saw some boobies?


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: gm2 on February 22, 2010, 01:03:25 PM
Phillip Island - SBK Official Test 20.02.2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5IdILhNUDM#normal)

"Neukirchner" in italian is pretty funny  ;)


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: Speeddog on February 22, 2010, 01:15:56 PM
 Fabrizio spreadin' the love  :-*

(http://motogpmatters.smugmug.com/World-Superbikes/2010/miscellaneous/FabrizioFingerwithlogo/794285468_nhv2n-M.jpg)


Title: Re: WSBK/WSS Philip Island test
Post by: gm2 on February 22, 2010, 01:20:32 PM
heyyyy make the beast with two backsa youa, wea had noa teama ordersa ina Monza.  eh!


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