I have the opportunity to pick up an oil cooler off a 750 to graft onto my 620.
Any known problems with this? Any specific parts I should ensure I obtain from the seller?
Thanks
Quote from: Privateer on February 28, 2010, 06:06:04 AM
I have the opportunity to pick up an oil cooler off a 750 to graft onto my 620.
Any known problems with this? Any specific parts I should ensure I obtain from the seller?
Thanks
Hoses...fittings on the cases...baffle under the oil filter.
and the valve cover to attach it to.
the cover might be the tricky bit... does the 750 have that sensor for the head like the 620 does?
Quote from: teddy037.2 on February 28, 2010, 08:08:10 AM
the cover might be the tricky bit... does the 750 have that sensor for the head like the 620 does?
Maybe if it was injected.
If not any valve cover with the mount should work
Only the fuel injected M750, which limits you to one year. I'm not sure if 900 valve covers with the 5.9 computer fit, if they do that would increase your possibilities.
The M800 cover should work, too, but somewhat slim pickins there as well. Only 2 years production.
How about S2R800 cover?
Quote from: Mr Earl on February 28, 2010, 09:36:25 AM
The M800 cover should work, too, but somewhat slim pickins there as well. Only 2 years production.
How about S2R800 cover?
the S2R 800 should fit
2000-2002 M900
2002 M750
2003-2004 M800
2005-2007 S2R800
All those will interchange and provide the required sensor mount and cooler mount.
AFAIK, all '2-valve' belt drive valve covers are the same profile and bolt pattern, except for DS and 696.
So they'll interchange.
I'm pretty sure the valve cover from '02 M750, '02 M900, M800 and S2R800 will all work for a high-mount oil cooler on an M620.
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feck, Stu got it while I was hunting and pecking.
how do the 4V lower oil coolers mount?
Quote from: Speeddog on February 28, 2010, 10:13:45 AM
feck, Stu got it while I was hunting and pecking.
Ha-ha! [cheeky]
Quote from: Raux on February 28, 2010, 10:55:39 AM
how do the 4V lower oil coolers mount?
I can go check my 996, but it's probably different from a Monster
Quote from: ducpainter on February 28, 2010, 11:25:18 AM
I can go check my 996, but it's probably different from a Monster
please do since i was thinking on purchasing a 749 oil cooler for my m620...
The one on the 996 mounts very much like the Monster.
The ears are ~4 3/4" apart and they use an insulator like the ones on an SBK exhaust as opposed to the rubber peg like a 2V monster.
yeah i'm thinking about doing this for the rebuild.
Quote from: ducpainter on February 28, 2010, 12:04:15 PM
The one on the 996 mounts very much like the Monster.
The ears are ~4 3/4" apart and they use an insulator like the ones on an SBK exhaust as opposed to the rubber peg like a 2V monster.
so instead if a 749 oil cooler a 996 oil cooler will fit 'easier'? just need to get the covers and lines? or something else?
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on February 28, 2010, 12:58:43 PM
so instead if a 749 oil cooler a 996 oil cooler will fit 'easier'? just need to get the covers and lines? or something else?
I honestly cant say. The 996 cooler has a separate line that runs to the heads I think. That would need to be plugged for your 620. You would need to measure a 2V cover to see if it would work.
I don't know what the dimensions are on the 2V cooler mounts.
this one happens to be a 2002, so looks like I'm in luck. Need to see if they'll include all the necessary bits. For $100, it seems like a good deal.
Quote from: ducpainter on February 28, 2010, 01:06:10 PM
I honestly cant say. The 996 cooler has a separate line that runs to the heads I think. That would need to be plugged for your 620. You would need to measure a 2V cover to see if it would work.
I don't know what the dimensions are on the 2V cooler mounts.
But then why the M1000 mounts above and the M620 under?, don't like it there...that's why I like the SBK/S4R look...
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on February 28, 2010, 01:28:25 PM
But then why the M1000 mounts above and the M620 under?, don't like it there...that's why I like the SBK/S4R look...
You don't like it high...or low?
You could always make a bracket to mount it wherever you want.
Quote from: ducpainter on February 28, 2010, 01:34:47 PM
You don't like it high...or low?
...low
QuoteYou could always make a bracket to mount it wherever you want.
....that's not the issue, the issue are the hoses....
what about an st or mts oil cooler?
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on February 28, 2010, 01:36:41 PM
...low
....that's not the issue, the issue are the hoses....
what about the st oil cooler?
The SBK has the cooler low...radiator high.
You can have hoses made. You just need a supplier that has AN-6 fittings.
I believe the ST would use the same cooler as an SBK mounted low.
Quote from: ducpainter on February 28, 2010, 01:39:09 PM
The SBK has the cooler low...radiator high.
You can have hoses made. You just need a supplier that has AN-6 fittings.
I believe the ST would use the same cooler as an SBK mounted low.
but, i do like the sbk look of the cooler...and the fittings, male/female for engine and female for cooler? right?
i can always get a belly pan for cosmetics reasons but, if it's too much hassle[me being down here and not to thrustworthy machinists around] then i'll got the 'oem' way but mod to m1000 looks. above...if it's rectangular goes up, trapezoidal, down...
Quote from: Darkmonster620 on February 28, 2010, 02:23:31 PM
but, i do like the sbk look of the cooler...and the fittings, male/female for engine and female for cooler? right?
i can always get a belly pan for cosmetics reasons but, if it's too much hassle[me being down here and not to thrustworthy machinists around] then i'll got the 'oem' way but mod to m1000 looks. above...if it's rectangular goes up, trapezoidal, down...
I'd have to check on the fittings on the cooler.
The coolers on the old/748-996 SBKs are rectangular.
I am totally confused here... carlos, are you trying to mount a 2V cooler to the lower valve cover of your bike (4V "look" mounting)?
or mount a 4V cooler (low, like the 4V bikes)?
Quote from: teddy037.2 on February 28, 2010, 02:38:03 PM
I am totally confused here... carlos, are you trying to mount a 2V cooler to the lower valve cover of your bike (4V "look" mounting)?
or mount a 4V cooler (low, like the 4V bikes)?
4V cooler to my 2V M620D....
sorry for the confusion...
me not thinking straight, wife's being ill for the past two weeks and haven't been getting to much rest so ideas are clear in mind but not n writing...
ah... gotcha.
making spacers from cooler to cover will most likely be the only "problem" if the widths are different... fittings and line are pretty easy to come by.
a cover from a carby 750 or 900 should probably bolt right up on the bottom of the head
OK guys, I made the purchase, a S4Rs oil cooler but no lines.
Parts needed? Need list in order to purchase what's needed.
Hoses? S4R/s/T hoses or pre-assembled kit for 2v or 4V or just purchase OEM M620? No reliable hose assembler locally so need to purchase.
Thinking of manufacturing bracket so that cooler is in an 'in between' position, not so high not so low.
Thanks
If you use the cooler in the stock location you should be able to use stock 2V lines...I think.
If you move it all bets are off.
Quote from: humorless dp on October 31, 2010, 07:19:15 PM
If you use the cooler in the stock location you should be able to use stock 2V lines...I think.
If you move it all bets are off.
my idea is to install it in an 'in between' location; M620 install low, M1000 hi, in between ... but, what parts do i need?
only got cooler in good condition, hoses are toast ... it's from a S4Rs
OK, got cooler, has fittings installed, need to get engine fittings and lines; if, i get oem engine fittings, can i purchase s4r lines? ... still looking for valve cover to mount ...