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Title: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: dennisd on March 01, 2010, 05:45:00 PM
Has anyone fitted a Speedo Healer on their M1100 or M696?  I know I can just add 7 to 10 percent to what the speedo indicates (haven't checked it with GPS yet but I know they are off, it even says so in the owner's manual) but it just pi55es me off that I have to.  I don't understand why they have to be so optimistic with the speedo.  My '06 Miata is spot on; my '05 Dodge Ram 4X4 is spot on; my '06 Harley Roadking is spot on (all according to GPS); my '09 Kawasaki Versys is now spot on (after changing the countershaft sprocket, that's where the speedo pick up is, it corrected the speedo error).  Even my '94 and '95 DR350s are only about 2 percent optimistic, that's much better than the M1100.

I was just wondering how hard it will be to hide the speedo healer on the M1100.


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: He Man on March 01, 2010, 05:53:26 PM
i always thought they did it for a very simple but not obvious reason.

On many bikes,when your going 80, you feel like your going 60. so when you feel like your going 80, your actally going 90. so you dont go nuts and get speeding tickets its about 10-15% off sometimes.


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: CamelToeJockey on March 01, 2010, 07:53:09 PM
i always thought they did it for a very simple but not obvious reason.

On many bikes,when your going 80, you feel like your going 60. so when you feel like your going 80, your actally going 90. so you dont go nuts and get speeding tickets its about 10-15% off sometimes.


I think I understand what you are trying to say, but your math/logic fails me...



Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: Howie on March 02, 2010, 01:44:12 AM
Before buying the speedo healer you should check the accuracy of the odometer.  If your speedometer reads 10% high and your odometer is spot on when you correct the speedometer reading your odometer will read 10% low.


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: hihhs on March 02, 2010, 03:23:45 AM
So the speedo on my M1100 is probably wrong?!?! WTF? >:(




Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: Bullfrog on March 02, 2010, 04:23:27 AM
95% of European motor vehicule manufacturers calibrate the speedo like that and the odometer is correct.

They will tell you that it's to account for tire circumference growth at motorway speeds. While was true in the past, speedometers now have an algorithm that accounts for tire deformation. That's why they always reset the tire pressure when you go to the dealership.

It's an unwritten common practice to make raise the displayed speed on the odometer to avoid lawsuits if a driver gets caught speeding and claims that they were following the limit on the dashboard.

Japanese cars are entirely different. You'll find that almost all of them have a 99.9% accurate speedometer. In Japan, the culture has changed a lot since the 70s and the majority of people don't exceed speed limits. The only ones that we here about are the crazy ones with they 11tybillion HP Skyliners but, while they are few and far between in Japan, they too follow speed limits during 80% of their driving.

Draw your own conclusions.  [bacon]


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: dennisd on March 02, 2010, 05:25:07 AM
Before buying the speedo healer you should check the accuracy of the odometer.  If your speedometer reads 10% high and your odometer is spot on when you correct the speedometer reading your odometer will read 10% low.

Yes I know that will be the case but at 10000 actual it will read 9000 miles (100 will read 90, 1000 will read 900, and so on).  I can live with that; and yea' I can live with the speedo error also; it just bugs me for some reason.

But no one has tried or knows someone that has tied the Healer?


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: corey on March 02, 2010, 06:15:48 AM
speedometer? pffft.


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: dennisd on March 02, 2010, 09:51:40 AM
speedometer? pffft.

Yea' I know... but for some reason, I seem to get a lot of attention from the men with the red & blue lights on their cars.  A speedo comes in kinda handy trying to avoid getting another lecture (or worse).


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: DucatiTorrey on March 02, 2010, 11:11:43 AM
I wouldn't worry about it man, if you see 70 and it bugs you, twist your wrist a little


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: ungeheuer on March 02, 2010, 11:23:45 AM
So the speedo on my M1100 is probably wrong?!?! WTF? >:(
No.  Its certainly not probably wrong.  Its definitely wrong.  It reads 8% to 10% lower [edit] higher [end edit] than actual.  I'm surprised that you're surprised.


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: hihhs on March 02, 2010, 11:43:25 AM
No.  Its certainly not probably wrong.  Its definitely wrong.  It reads 8% to 10% lower than actual.  I'm surprised that you're surprised.

I am constantly surprised! Hell, I honestly don't know how I would have known. At 75 MPH on the speedo (apparently 82 actual) I'm not flying by everyone. I guess here in Northern California people drive fast. In Hawaii, I mostly rode on days and at times where there were few other cars around.

I sure as hell can't feel the difference between 80 & 88 mph.

Good to know though.


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: Howellerman on March 02, 2010, 11:49:23 AM
Highly recommended! I put one on my M1100S with the DP ECU, so not only was I off by 10-percent but I was running KPH. The Speedo Healer unit compensated for both, and according to all the radar signs around here I am now dead-on.

Just for reference, the wiring is the same as the Aprilia colors. The documentation that I had did not have (yet) the Ducati wiring colors.


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: Raux on March 02, 2010, 12:41:15 PM
I am constantly surprised! Hell, I honestly don't know how I would have known. At 75 MPH on the speedo (apparently 82 actual) I'm not flying by everyone. I guess here in Northern California people drive fast. In Hawaii, I mostly rode on days and at times where there were few other cars around.

I sure as hell can't feel the difference between 80 & 88 mph.

Good to know though.

other way around. 82 indicated on speedo is 75 actual.


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: ungeheuer on March 02, 2010, 02:30:52 PM
^^ Yeah, what Raux said. 

I of course meant to say that the speedo reads higher than actual.....  so everybody'd be passing you rather than the other way around.  Sorry for adding to the confusion.


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: dennisd on March 02, 2010, 03:11:47 PM
Highly recommended! I put one on my M1100S with the DP ECU, so not only was I off by 10-percent but I was running KPH. The Speedo Healer unit compensated for both, and according to all the radar signs around here I am now dead-on.

Just for reference, the wiring is the same as the Aprilia colors. The documentation that I had did not have (yet) the Ducati wiring colors.

I thought they had a plug and play unit.  You had to cut/splice wires?  If that is necessary, I'll live with doing a little computing in my head.  He11, it will probably help ward dementia anyway.


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: hihhs on March 02, 2010, 04:07:23 PM
^^ Yeah, what Raux said. 

I of course meant to say that the speedo reads higher than actual.....  so everybody'd be passing you rather than the other way around.  Sorry for adding to the confusion.

Ah-hah! Showing higher than I m actually going I can live with!


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: 1KDS on March 02, 2010, 05:13:08 PM
I had a speedohealer on my R6 after I changed the sprockets.  It was plug and play, dialed it in to the radar displays around town.


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: victor441 on March 02, 2010, 05:53:31 PM
a cheap alternative would be a Sigma bicycle computer mounted to the bars or elsewhere (many other brands won't work reliably at MC speeds).  They use a 4 digit user input factor to calculate speed so can be very accurate, also gives you max/avg speed, timers, tripmeters, etc...


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: Howellerman on March 03, 2010, 10:47:01 AM
I thought they had a plug and play unit.  You had to cut/splice wires?  If that is necessary, I'll live with doing a little computing in my head.  He11, it will probably help ward dementia anyway.

Yes, they have plug and play for the Japanese sicles, but not most European bikes. You get a "universal" wiring kit. In fairness to the Speedo Healer folks, it was a bit of pregnant dog to install on the Monster - not too many places to hide things! But, it is a bullet-proof unit once installed, and while I could compensate in my head for 10-percent the KPH to MPH really threw me for a loop.

Officer: The speed limit is 45 MPH. Do you know how fast you were going, Sir?
Me     : Well, my speedo said 85... 


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: ungeheuer on March 03, 2010, 02:17:56 PM
.....while I could compensate in my head for 10-percent the KPH to MPH really threw me for a loop.

Officer: The speed limit is 45 MPH. Do you know how fast you were going, Sir?
Me     : Well, my speedo said 85... 
um..... maybe I've missed something here  ???..... but if you want your M1100 speedo to display mph instead of km/h all you need to do is this >> http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=33467.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=33467.0)



Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: dennisd on March 03, 2010, 03:32:08 PM
um..... maybe I've missed something here  ???..... but if you want your M1100 speedo to display mph instead of km/h all you need to do is this >> http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=33467.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=33467.0)



I didn't follow your link to see if those instructions are correct; but yes, you can switch back and forth between mph & km/h.  When I bought my m1100 the dealer had to install a new battery in the bike for me because the one in the bike barely turned the engine over.  With the new battery in place, we started the bike and I rode it around the parking lot then loaded it into my truck for the trip home (couldn't find anyone to give me a lift the 80 miles to the dealer when I picked up the bike).  When I got home I found the speedo was displaying km/h so I called the dealer and they walked me through the process to get it to read mph.  Apparently it resets when you remove the battery?

Anyway, back to the subject of the Speedo Healer; if I have to cut and splice then I'm not going to do it.  Plus, I was wondering how hard it would be to hide the unit.  Thanks for that info Howellerman.


Title: Re: Speedo Healer on M1100?
Post by: dennisd on March 03, 2010, 03:36:43 PM
I didn't follow your link to see if those instructions are correct;

Guess I should have followed the link first.  Seems maybe the ecu being replaced resets to the EU reading?  When I bought my bike the dealer had already installed the Termi "race" kit which includes the DP ecu.


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