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Congrats celli! Which magazine?
[thumbsup]
Quote from: Howley on March 02, 2010, 12:37:46 PM
Congrats celli! Which magazine?
this piece of road art needs to be in every magazine moto related or not..
Congrats! Nice to see your bike getting more attention [thumbsup]
Sweet. [thumbsup] If I'm not mistaken I think I see a new seat cowl and chain. Nice.
Quote from: Mojo S2R on March 02, 2010, 07:31:09 PM
Sweet. [thumbsup] If I'm not mistaken I think I see a new seat cowl and chain. Nice.
Please pay attention. :D
;D I must have missed the latest updates somewhere. Maybe if Celli let's us know what magazine it will be in I can get up to date. [coffee]
That really is one of a kind bike i must say. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Mojo S2R on March 02, 2010, 08:31:49 PM
;D I must have missed the latest updates somewhere. Maybe if Celli let's us know what magazine it will be in I can get up to date. [coffee]
he did say Bike magazine,but which month is also important, i would like to pick it up
Congrats!! [thumbsup]
Please post a link to the magazine shots when they're published!! [beer]
[moto]
Thank you all!!!!
I will keep you posted when it's published. I hope the pics will be nice! [beer]
I'm sure they will, being an artist and all.
a friend of mine was on the cover of a car magazine with his 02 BMW M coupe, he bought like 5 copies for himself, and one for when he eventually sells the car.
Amazing bike . deserves to be in a magazine.
Damn that bike is HAWWTTT!!! Everytime I see pics of this thing, it makes me feel like I'm just wasting time and money with my bike. :'(
I envy you, but in a nice way. Congrats on the magazine [clap]
I know I'm in the minority when I say this but I don't like Celli's bike. Of course I do not intend to offend Mr. Celli, and will definitely give him an A++ for the effort and creative thinking that went into it, but I feel it's horribly overdone. It's like a case study in obsessive compulsive disorder; a cartoon. Reminds me of an Italian professor of mine from school; every six months she would go to Switzerland for plastic surgery and come back looking even more perpetually surprised than she did before, with lips swollen from collagen injections and two bandaids on both sides of her temples, wearing a hat. Yeah Pucci, we know what you went and did, again. Like the Marcel Duchamp Fountain version of an S2R1000. Dada Ducati. The Michael Jackson Celebrity Plastic Surgery edition. Doesn't look like much of a rider's bike to me.
I am prepared for the consequences of my actions, and for having a differing opinion. I swear I'm not trying to be rude, and I'm not trying to raise the grain here. Just trying to reveal a truth about the situation with Celli's bike. Modern deconstructivist art isn't always beautiful, and perhaps the beauty here isn't in the physical alteration itself, but in the idea of radical change. The bike itself is quite ugly and nonfunctional. Ducati already makes a beautiful machine. The final form of the Ducati motorcycle has already been decided for the most part. Remaking what has already been made, to this extreme degree, is like masturbation. Pointless. It's almost being destructive and disrespectful. Nobody takes a Van Gogh and spray paints graffiti on it and expects to be 'applauded' for improving the painting. I'm not against modding a bike, on the contrary. There's a point where it becomes egregious and obscene though. Like vanity gone berserk. To me, DuckStew's SS2R is much more droolworthy. A wonderful, cohesive, and respectful transformation of an already beautiful machine that can be ridden.
Flame on!!! I've had five espressos already, I'm bored, fire away.
Quote from: bergdoerfer on March 05, 2010, 07:29:36 AM
I know I'm in the minority when I say this but I don't like Celli's bike. Of course I do not intend to offend Mr. Celli, and will definitely give him an A++ for the effort and creative thinking that went into it, but I feel it's horribly overdone. It's like a case study in obsessive compulsive disorder; a cartoon. Reminds me of an Italian professor of mine from school; every six months she would go to Switzerland for plastic surgery and come back looking even more perpetually surprised than she did before, with lips swollen from collagen injections and two bandaids on both sides of her temples, wearing a hat. Yeah Pucci, we know what you went and did, again. Like the Marcel Duchamp Fountain version of an S2R1000. Dada Ducati. The Michael Jackson Celebrity Plastic Surgery edition. Doesn't look like much of a rider's bike to me.
I am prepared for the consequences of my actions, and for having a differing opinion. I swear I'm not trying to be rude, and I'm not trying to raise the grain here. Just trying to reveal a truth about the situation with Celli's bike. Modern deconstructivist art isn't always beautiful, and perhaps the beauty here isn't in the physical alteration itself, but in the idea of radical change. The bike itself is quite ugly and nonfunctional. Ducati already makes a beautiful machine. The final form of the Ducati motorcycle has already been decided for the most part. Remaking what has already been made, to this extreme degree, is like masturbation. Pointless. It's almost being destructive and disrespectful. Nobody takes a Van Gogh and spray paints graffiti on it and expects to be 'applauded' for improving the painting. I'm not against modding a bike, on the contrary. There's a point where it becomes egregious and obscene though. Like vanity gone berserk. To me, DuckStew's SS2R is much more droolworthy. A wonderful, cohesive, and respectful transformation of an already beautiful machine that can be ridden.
Flame on!!! I've had five espressos already, I'm bored, fire away.
- First post I've read that's said something to the negative on Celis monster
I disagree with you kind sir ......... to each his/her own
Congrats on the BikeMag shoot Celi...!! [thumbsup]
and the Monster is still as stunning as ever [beer]
sweet bike! ;D
Bergdoerfer is correct....it is a strange cartoon.
Quote from: bergdoerfer on March 05, 2010, 07:29:36 AM
I know I'm in the minority when I say this but I don't like Celli's bike. Of course I do not intend to offend Mr. Celli, and will definitely give him an A++ for the effort and creative thinking that went into it, but I feel it's horribly overdone. It's like a case study in obsessive compulsive disorder; a cartoon. Reminds me of an Italian professor of mine from school; every six months she would go to Switzerland for plastic surgery and come back looking even more perpetually surprised than she did before, with lips swollen from collagen injections and two bandaids on both sides of her temples, wearing a hat. Yeah Pucci, we know what you went and did, again. Like the Marcel Duchamp Fountain version of an S2R1000. Dada Ducati. The Michael Jackson Celebrity Plastic Surgery edition. Doesn't look like much of a rider's bike to me.
I am prepared for the consequences of my actions, and for having a differing opinion. I swear I'm not trying to be rude, and I'm not trying to raise the grain here. Just trying to reveal a truth about the situation with Celli's bike. Modern deconstructivist art isn't always beautiful, and perhaps the beauty here isn't in the physical alteration itself, but in the idea of radical change. The bike itself is quite ugly and nonfunctional. Ducati already makes a beautiful machine. The final form of the Ducati motorcycle has already been decided for the most part. Remaking what has already been made, to this extreme degree, is like masturbation. Pointless. It's almost being destructive and disrespectful. Nobody takes a Van Gogh and spray paints graffiti on it and expects to be 'applauded' for improving the painting. I'm not against modding a bike, on the contrary. There's a point where it becomes egregious and obscene though. Like vanity gone berserk. To me, DuckStew's SS2R is much more droolworthy. A wonderful, cohesive, and respectful transformation of an already beautiful machine that can be ridden.
Flame on!!! I've had five espressos already, I'm bored, fire away.
You should see it in real life , it's much better than on the pictures
to a purist, Celli's bike is quite out there.
If I may, Celli.
Celli is an artist. and his artistic interpretation of the Ducati Monster is his own vision. I'm certain not meant to improve or discredit the original but to be different than it for the sake of being different.
There are many people out there doing things to motorcycles that are obscene to say the least (OCC's Spiderman Monster 1100 anyone?).
Celli's in not obscene, just extreme.
The more a bike is customized to your taste and requirements the smaller the audience it will appeal to. The exception to this is the elimination of goberment mandated stuff like reflectors and carbon canisters.
I'm an artist as well. I'm a design architect in reality, but I do paint and sculpt in my garage. I'm well invested in the creative realm, that's where I dwell professionally and personally. I appreciate Celli's art. The oversized still lifes of sunflowers and fruit bowls are really beautiful. So the deeper idea of Celli's bike, the radical nature of it, actually does appeal to my sensibilities. The audacity of taking something beautiful and deflowering it. Therein lies the art in Celli's bike, for me.
I just don't like the look at all though. I apologize to Celli and really don't intend to be rude. I would say that I'd be curious to see how far he can take it.
I can agree with him. I love cellis bike, until he put this light on it, and the tail cowl thing, its just too much now. Its still an inspiration though. It keeps me dreaming with possibilities, but yeah, its too much now
good for him and the mag though! [thumbsup]
I have always loved Celli's bike. I also preferred his lambo headlight to his current one. The jury is still out on the seat cowl. I love to look at what he's done. His oil cooler fairings had inspired me to make my own oil cooler fairings, similar idea but different. ;)
Quote from: bergdoerfer on March 05, 2010, 07:29:36 AM
I swear I'm not trying to be rude, and I'm not trying to raise the grain here. Just trying to reveal a truth about the situation with Celli's bike.
no, you are stating opinion. One I disagree with but respect as an OPINION.
you talk about the monster as though its a piece of high art or a perfected pinnacle of motorcycle design. it isnt. its a parts bin bike ducati puts out for people who want something a bit different and/or who want a ducati but cant afford a SBK.
There is a reason nobody tries to spray paint a van gough, people dont like it when other people piss on somebody else's creative vision.
by the by, piss poor form to come and talk shit on a dudes bike in a thread he started so that he could celebrate being in a magazine.
Just in case you guys missed this. http://www.marcelbastiaans.com/ (http://www.marcelbastiaans.com/)
Quote from: xcaptainxbloodx on March 06, 2010, 09:06:30 PM
no, you are stating opinion. One I disagree with but respect as an OPINION.
you talk about the monster as though its a piece of high art or a perfected pinnacle of motorcycle design. it isnt. its a parts bin bike ducati puts out for people who want something a bit different and/or who want a ducati but cant afford a SBK.
There is a reason nobody tries to spray paint a van gough, people dont like it when other people piss on somebody else's creative vision.
by the by, piss poor form to come and talk shit on a dudes bike in a thread he started so that he could celebrate being in a magazine.
So dissenting opinions are suddenly poor form even when stated logically and politely?
What world do you live in?
Quote from: ducpainter on March 07, 2010, 04:23:50 AM
What world do you live in?
He lives in Thunderdome, where everybody's angry all the time and the weak are killed and eaten
I'd have to disagree that the Monster is merely a parts bin bike, it's one Miguel Angel Galluzzi's artistic vision. Look it up. The fact that he slammed a bike together out of 'parts' from a 'bin' to become the greatest selling Ducati icon of all time makes him a genius. Like Warhol's soup can series, only a lot cooler. To me it is high art, right out of the box. Can't say that about an SV650. Celli's creation is a
deconstruction of Galluzzi's genius.
Dissent apparently will not be tolerated on this board! [leo] LOL that's OK. I gave Celli credit for the work he put into it. I do like his paintings. All I was doing was offering a differing opinion. [cheeky]
Bergdoerfer's point about this bike being like masturbation, is well put. But it's not pointless.
It's nice, we all like it and do it. Same as riding a bike.
Celli's bike may not be beautiful to the common eye (or an artist's), but it IS inspirational.
That is more than enough for me.
Quote from: bergdoerfer on March 07, 2010, 06:50:19 AM
He lives in Thunderdome, where everybody's angry all the time and the weak are killed and eaten
I'd have to disagree that the Monster is merely a parts bin bike, it's one Miguel Angel Galluzzi's artistic vision. Look it up. The fact that he slammed a bike together out of 'parts' from a 'bin' to become the greatest selling Ducati icon of all time makes him a genius. Like Warhol's soup can series, only a lot cooler. To me it is high art, right out of the box. Can't say that about an SV650. Celli's creation is a deconstruction of Galluzzi's genius.
Dissent apparently will not be tolerated on this board! [leo] LOL that's OK. I gave Celli credit for the work he put into it. I do like his paintings. All I was doing was offering a differing opinion. [cheeky]
i feel you can offer a differing opinion without being negative (Kopfjager are you reading this??).
I don't feel you ever put things to a point that were negative against Celli or his bike, it just wasn't your taste.
Quote from: bergdoerfer on March 05, 2010, 07:29:36 AM
Reminds me of an Italian professor of mine from school; every six months she would go to Switzerland for plastic surgery and come back looking even more perpetually surprised than she did before, with lips swollen from collagen injections and two bandaids on both sides of her temples, wearing a hat. Yeah Pucci, we know what you went and did, again. Like the Marcel Duchamp Fountain version of an S2R1000. Dada Ducati. The Michael Jackson Celebrity Plastic Surgery edition. Doesn't look like much of a rider's bike to me.
The bike itself is quite ugly and nonfunctional. Ducati already makes a beautiful machine. Remaking what has already been made, to this extreme degree, is like masturbation. Pointless. It's almost being destructive and disrespectful. There's a point where it becomes egregious and obscene though. Like vanity gone berserk.
Quote from: ducpainter on March 07, 2010, 04:23:50 AM
So dissenting opinions are suddenly poor form even when stated logically and politely?
What world do you live in?
dissenting opinions are fine, thats why I come to this board (and others like it) to discuss things with fellow enthusiests. this board would be pretty damn boring if it was just a bunch of people sitting around agreeing and following one aesthetic. variety is the spice of life and all that. saying a bike is ugly, nonfunctional, pointless and "the michael jackson clebrity plastic surgeon edition" is hardly an argument of logic and politeness. then to bolster that by saying hes just "trying to reveal a truth about the bike" is trying to state his opinion as a fact.
the way that post came across (to me at least) was harshly over critical and, given the fact that this is a thread about celli getting in a magazine and NOT a "hey guys check out my mods, what do you think" thread no critique was asked for.
"hey guys im having a baby!"
"ugh I hate when women get all fat"
I don't have a problem telling people I don't like whatever mod they did, or telling people I don't like something about their bike (like wet clutches), but in one post, Celli's bike was referred to as;
Quote from: bergdoerfer on March 05, 2010, 07:29:36 AM
horribly overdone.
a case study in obsessive compulsive disorder;
a cartoon.
Reminds me of an Italian professor of mine from school; every six months she would go to Switzerland for plastic surgery and come back looking even more perpetually surprised than she did before, with lips swollen from collagen injections and two bandaids on both sides of her temples, wearing a hat. Yeah Pucci, we know what you went and did, again.
Like the Marcel Duchamp Fountain version of an S2R1000.
Dada Ducati.
The Michael Jackson Celebrity Plastic Surgery edition.
Doesn't look like much of a rider's bike to me.
trying to reveal a truth about the situation with Celli's bike. Modern deconstructivist art isn't always beautiful,
quite ugly
nonfunctional.
like masturbation.
Pointless.
almost being destructive
disrespectful.
Nobody takes a Van Gogh and spray paints graffiti on it and expects to be 'applauded' for improving the painting.
egregious
obscene
Like vanity gone berserk.
Granted, all this was wrapped in polite discourse;
Quote from: bergdoerfer on March 05, 2010, 07:29:36 AM
I know I'm in the minority when I say this but I don't like Celli's bike.
I do not intend to offend Mr. Celli,
definitely give him an A++ for the effort
creative thinking that went into it,
I am prepared for the consequences of my actions,
having a differing opinion. I
I'm not trying to be rude,
not trying to raise the grain here.
and though I think we should all be open minded and willing to accept criticism, I think that post was not constructive, specially not in a thread about the bike winding up in a magazine - save that to the usual "what do you think of my mods thread"
Maybe we'll let Marcel decide.
As an artist I'm certain he's received criticism while showing his work...I've heard some critics try to be rude.
It goes with the territory.
I don't think bergdoerfer is correct in most of his criticism except the point about the bike being a deconstruction.
I like his work...and FWIW I think his bike needs the rider to look right.
Quote from: xcaptainxbloodx on March 06, 2010, 09:06:30 PM
There is a reason nobody tries to spray paint a van gough, people dont like it when other people piss on somebody else's creative vision.
(Off Subject)
You should check out the work of the artist Banksy. He's painted over all sorts of famous artists and he is considered (by some) to be national treasure.
(Back on subject)
Quote from: ducpainter on March 07, 2010, 11:24:12 AM
I think his bike needs the rider to look right.
interesting. I need to see more pictures with him riding (have only seen one)
Again, congrats on getting the Mag. If I see it in a store, i'm buyin it.
(http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/BOMb/002/(5).jpg)
[popcorn]
There's more pictures of him on the bike on his website: http://www.marcelbastiaans.com/ (http://www.marcelbastiaans.com/)
oh sweet, thanks!
Quote from: Mojo S2R on March 07, 2010, 06:43:47 PM
There's more pictures of him on the bike on his website: http://www.marcelbastiaans.com/ (http://www.marcelbastiaans.com/)
You mean like I already posted?
Yep. I actually copied the link from your post. ;D Just letting him know that what he was looking for was also there. [cheeky]
Quote from: Rufus120 on March 07, 2010, 12:27:56 PM
(Off Subject)
You should check out the work of the artist Banksy. He's painted over all sorts of famous artists and he is considered (by some) to be national treasure.
(Back on subject)
Ive got a book of his work. rad stuff, although he dident really paint over other works so much as modify them to provoke different responses. his work on the landscape paintings is probably my favorite bit of pop art
Hi folks......
Thank you all for your compliments and other reactions.
My intention was to share my happiness with you that my bike is going to be in a big foreign bikemagazine. I could not believe it! My bike!!!
I know. A lot of you like my Monster and a lot don't (And thats okay!)...
I believe in happiness, love and thruth. Do what you really like to do and let that be your thruth. Of all our talents that will be the one you will be most succesful. Because you do it effortless, with love and soul, without fear and dislike. That's why I paint....
What I did with my bike was just for my happiness. Only important thing was that it had to be sound in safetyness, functionality and ergonomics AND servicefriendly. Much later, to my surprise, it became a kind of inspiration 'object' for many. So that made me even more happy. [laugh]
So, that's all....
Keep on the good work and do what you love to do! Life is good! [beer]
Celli
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Finally the mag came out. It's a French magazine. They came from Paris and I need to have somebody to translate the whole story. My french is not that good.....
Cheers,
Celli
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Okay, that's it!
Again, congrats! [thumbsup]
Now, where can I get a copy of that magazine in the states?
Thanks! The mag is spread in France, Italy, Switzerland and Canada.
It's Desmo-magazine No. 43. In Canada the price is 9,20 CAD. Mail: desmomag@terre-mars.fr
Please tell me that you're very proud 8)
Yes, I am... ;D
[clap] Congrats!
Kewl!! [moto] [thumbsup]
Bravo [clap] [clap]
Congrats [thumbsup]
very nice! Is this the first magazine appearance?
Perfect bike for a magazine appearance. Congrats!