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Title: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: Piller on March 15, 2010, 12:10:53 PM
I heard the shock on the 695 is bad.  Could this cause lower back pain?  I drove for three hours and it seemed like the shock wasn't doing much.  Is the stock shock adjustible?

My back has been hurting for three days.
Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: Spidey on March 15, 2010, 12:14:51 PM
Hey Piller.  The problem is your riding posture and that you're not in shape for long-distance riding, not the shock.  It *could*--depending on your weight--not work as well as you'd like, but it almost certainly isn't what is causing your pain.  

The shock is adjustable for preload (which you should adjust -- how much do you weigh?), but not for rebound or compression.  Your next questions should probably be a follow-up about proper posture, followed by a tech question about preload, rebound and compression, and how to set your preload.  

P.S.  You ride a bike, not drive it.  ;)
Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: Piller on March 15, 2010, 12:22:56 PM
Ok.  I weigh 180.  I'll look into the posture and preload stuff.  Is the rear shock a very noticeable improvement to make?  I did seem to feel every bump.
Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: Spidey on March 15, 2010, 12:36:48 PM
Your rear is set up for someone lighter than you, so you'll want to adjust the preload.

Changing out the entire rear shock will make a really big difference in how your bike feels, but so will adjusting the preload and maybe changing out the spring.

Changing your posture, how you hold yourself up on the bike, how you use your legs and how tightly your grip the bars will also have a drastic effect on whether you feel all the bumps or not.

BTW, did you check your tire pressure?  That will also make a big difference.  And if it's cold out, that too will affect how well your suspension works. 
Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: Piller on March 15, 2010, 01:16:19 PM
This topic from the tutorial section isn't working:

Suspension, Adjusting Preload   http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=13710.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=13710.0)

Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: Piller on March 15, 2010, 01:36:41 PM
Here's a good tutorial I found:

http://www.ducatisuite.com/rearsuspension.html (http://www.ducatisuite.com/rearsuspension.html)

I'm surprised that site's still around.  Is the person who made that on this forum?
Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: Mr Earl on March 15, 2010, 02:19:40 PM
Quote from: Spidey on March 15, 2010, 12:14:51 PM
<snip>

The shock is adjustable for preload (which you should adjust -- how much do you weigh?), but not for rebound or compression.  Your next questions should probably be a follow-up about proper posture, followed by a tech question about preload, rebound and compression, and how to set your preload. 

P.S.  You ride a bike, not drive it.  ;)

Doesn't the 695 shock have rebound adjustment like the earlier Monsters?  My M800 shock does...
Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: Spidey on March 15, 2010, 03:45:47 PM
Quote from: Mr Earl on March 15, 2010, 02:19:40 PM
Doesn't the 695 shock have rebound adjustment like the earlier Monsters?  My M800 shock does...

Yes, it does.  My bad--typing fast and not thinking.
Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: Kopfjager on March 15, 2010, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: Spidey on March 15, 2010, 12:14:51 PM
P.S.  You ride a bike, not drive it.  ;)

No, You ride on the back, you drive the bike.  ;)
Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: teddy037.2 on March 16, 2010, 07:13:12 AM
Quote from: kopfjäger on March 15, 2010, 09:46:51 PM
No, You ride on the back, you drive the bike.  ;)

but you can still "go for a ride" by yourself... ;D
Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: Spidey on March 16, 2010, 09:11:41 AM
Quote from: kopfjäger on March 15, 2010, 09:46:51 PM
No, You ride on the back, you drive the bike.  ;)

Hmmm.  It appears that . . .

(http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n230/gkuhner/doinitwrong.jpg)

(http://nowsourcing.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/bush_doing_it_wrong.jpg)

(http://www.slapyo.com/wp-content/wrong04.jpg)

(http://www.riskmanagementinsight.com/media/images/weblog/wrong.jpg)

(http://ww2.verycarr.com:8888/files/u1/GunDoingItWrong.jpg)

(http://www.breakitdownblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/doing_it_wrong_skaters.jpg)

(http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/doing-it-wrong.jpg)

P.S.  We're not talkin' about rollin' that pretty bike of yours into the back of the truck and takin' it to the shop for more bling.  That's definitely driving.   ;D


Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: ArguZ on March 16, 2010, 10:50:38 AM
The standard yellow spring is very soft but also nice to your back.
I upgraded to some orange Metise and its hard and higher now and better on the track but also harder to ride over four hours or so.
Go to the gym for four weeks daily..
Look for the back crunch machine..
Find a weight you can lift 20x3 times.
increase it every two or three days.
I bet the problems goes away before June.
Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: He Man on March 16, 2010, 12:04:30 PM
i think i found a pic of kopfjager

(http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/sniper-girl-your-doing-it-wrong.jpg)
Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: ducpainter on March 16, 2010, 02:49:32 PM
Quote from: He Man on March 16, 2010, 12:04:30 PM
i think i found a pic of kopfjager

(http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/sniper-girl-your-doing-it-wrong.jpg)
I'm not going to rescue you...

when he rips your head off and shits in your neck. ;D
Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: Statler on March 16, 2010, 05:12:22 PM
Quote from: He Man on March 16, 2010, 12:04:30 PM
i think i found a pic of kopfjager

(http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/sniper-girl-your-doing-it-wrong.jpg)

I'm not going to rescue you....

when one of the other admins bans you for baiting him into an argument with this blatant threadjack.
Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: herm on March 17, 2010, 03:17:23 AM
before we get back on topic, is there an after pic of the chick/rifle image?
i bet she gets a nice shiner.
Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: RVA Duc on March 17, 2010, 03:37:03 AM
You should know when the shock is bad i had one on my old 600 and my back hurt all the time untill i got a new one for it
Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: Piller on March 18, 2010, 11:13:55 AM
I tried sitting more upright on the ride back and I had no problems. It might have been my riding technique.  But it seems like it's a bit hard anyway.  I feel all the bumps...  I might try to get it adjusted next time I go in the shop. 

either way, I love the bike and I'm very happy to be riding again.  Just maybe not for 3 hour trips anymore  :o
Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: DRKWNG on March 18, 2010, 11:20:44 PM

Quote from: herm (not herb) on March 17, 2010, 03:17:23 AM
before we get back on topic, is there an after pic of the chick/rifle image?
i bet she gets a nice shiner.

Kind of looks like a pellet rifle to my old eyes...

Quote from: He Man on March 16, 2010, 12:04:30 PM
(http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/sniper-girl-your-doing-it-wrong.jpg)

But if D looked half that good...   :o
Title: Re: Lower back pain from bad Shock?
Post by: SacDuc on March 19, 2010, 07:53:47 AM
Quote from: Piller on March 18, 2010, 11:13:55 AM
I tried sitting more upright on the ride back and I had no problems. It might have been my riding technique.  But it seems like it's a bit hard anyway.  I feel all the bumps...  I might try to get it adjusted next time I go in the shop. 

either way, I love the bike and I'm very happy to be riding again.  Just maybe not for 3 hour trips anymore  :o


Any pics of the new ride?

sac