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Title: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: ungeheuer on April 08, 2010, 02:53:46 AM
Yeah... go ahead, point and laugh  :P ;D.

OK, so I realise that this is perhaps the dumbest question ever asked... but there's no way I'm gonna leave the oil in my M1100 for the scheduled 12,000kms....soooo there I am with my 12mm allen-head socket wrench at the ready to remove the usual Ducati sump plug.....and..... there it isnt... WTF??...  [bang] [laugh]. 

Sooooo... which of you geniuses would like to tell me which of the 2 tiny allen-headed plugs is the sump plug then??
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: ducpainter on April 08, 2010, 03:24:29 AM
When did they change it to a 12mm allen?

I always thought they were all 10mm except the testastretta motors.
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: DarkDuc696 on April 08, 2010, 06:17:20 AM
I know for my 696 I had to get a 14mm socket style hex to remove the secondary filter, but I believe you're right duc that it's a 10mm for the other 2 plugs.

The main drain plug should be directly underneath the oil level check window on the bottom of the engine. Not on the side.
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: Speeddog on April 08, 2010, 06:42:40 AM
AFAIK, it's the one in the left case half.

I think '09 and later Monsters have the new thinwall case castings, with the new drainplug location.
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: ungeheuer on April 08, 2010, 11:06:46 AM
um.. y'all could be correct about it being 10mm (I cant remember from my 696), but point is there is no 10mm (or 12mm) or any drain plug even close to as large as that under there... just the 2 that can be seen in this pic....

(http://www.motocreations.com/dmf/M1100BoomTubed.1s.jpg)

...I'm guessing that its not the larger of the 2, directly below the screen filter... but can it really be that lil' guy just to the left of the crankcase join??   :-\
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: Raux on April 08, 2010, 12:02:15 PM
look at the parts catalog.
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: Speeddog on April 08, 2010, 12:06:10 PM
Quote from: ungeheuer on April 08, 2010, 11:06:46 AM
~~~SNIP~~~

...I'm guessing that its not the larger of the 2, directly below the screen filter... but can it really be that lil' guy just to the left of the crankcase join??   :-\

Yep, that's the one.
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: ungeheuer on April 08, 2010, 01:03:45 PM
Thanks Speeddog  [thumbsup].

I took a look in the parts catalogue as Raux suggested and yup, you're quite correct.  The wiener is the drain plug.  Why would they change it to something so tiny??  My stock of crush washers just became obsolete.... lol.

Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: dennisd on April 08, 2010, 03:17:12 PM
You know about cleaning the pickup screen every second oil change don't you?
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: ducpainter on April 08, 2010, 03:35:14 PM
Quote from: ungeheuer on April 08, 2010, 01:03:45 PM
Thanks Speeddog  [thumbsup].

I took a look in the parts catalogue as Raux suggested and yup, you're quite correct.  The wiener is the drain plug.  WTF would they change it to something so tiny??  My stock of crush washers just became obsolete.... lol.


I'll take them. ;D
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: koko64 on April 08, 2010, 03:57:11 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on April 08, 2010, 03:35:14 PM
I'll take them. ;D

Bugger DP!
I'll have 'em!
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: ungeheuer on April 08, 2010, 04:40:31 PM
Quote from: dennisd on April 08, 2010, 03:17:12 PMYou know about cleaning the pickup screen every second oil change don't you?
Yeah, I whip out and clean the screen filter every time I change the oil.
Quote from: ducpainter on April 08, 2010, 03:35:14 PM
I'll take them. ;D
Quote from: koko64 on April 08, 2010, 03:57:11 PM
Bugger DP!
I'll have 'em!
[laugh] Too late, they already have a home to go to sorry guys.
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: ungeheuer on April 09, 2010, 03:21:37 AM
Ok, oil change complete and so here's what I learned:  Screen filter still is 14mm allen wrench.  Drain plug is 5mm allen wrench.
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: MonsterTom on May 12, 2010, 03:21:45 AM
So....is the prescreen filter the large plug on the side of the case just under the sight glass?  I know, I know, noob question, but it's the first time I change the oil on a Duc.  [roll]
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: ducpainter on May 12, 2010, 03:23:39 AM
Quote from: MonsterTom on May 12, 2010, 03:21:45 AM
So....is the prescreen filter the large plug on the side of the case just under the sight glass?  I know, I know, noob question, but it's the first time I change the oil on a Duc.  [roll]
Yes.

21mm I believe.
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: MonsterTom on May 12, 2010, 03:51:30 AM
Thanks DP.

Another question......Can I reuse the gasket on the filter prescreen cap, or do I need to get another? TIA
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: ducpainter on May 12, 2010, 03:54:31 AM
Quote from: MonsterTom on May 12, 2010, 03:51:30 AM
Thanks DP.

Another question......Can I reuse the gasket on the filter prescreen cap, or do I need to get another? TIA
I usually reuse them.

Sometimes I turn them over, or surface them on a piece of glass with sandpaper on it. Be careful it doesn't slip off and get bent while tightening.

It's a judgment call.
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: Slide Panda on May 12, 2010, 04:45:16 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on May 12, 2010, 03:54:31 AM
Be careful it doesn't slip off and get bent while tightening.

Oh yeah... there's a bit of a shoulder on that pre screen that got me one time and caused me some terribly messy hassles....
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: Povidius on May 12, 2010, 05:01:15 PM
so, if its the smaller one, then what does that other plug do?  ???
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: ungeheuer on May 12, 2010, 06:12:51 PM
Quote from: Carbon 14 on May 12, 2010, 06:46:01 AM
5mm drain plug  :o.  You might just as well start the thread for stripped drain plugs right now.
It is small but who said 5mm drain plug?  The size of the allen wrench used to extract the drain plug is 5mm, 14mm for the screen filter.  I always fit a new crush-washer, costs pennies.
Title: Re: M1100 oil, how do it come out?
Post by: Ronnie-d on May 14, 2010, 08:17:10 PM
When pulling your screen filter, be prepared to put a lot of torque on a Johnson Bar to crack  it loose!   
1st time I did mine, it broke loose like a rifle shot, and I thought I broke my engine :o