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Title: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: hatewinter on April 15, 2010, 07:01:11 PM Just curious. Question for people who have heard these exhausts up close and personal. What are the differences in sound? I've got some termis(which make me a happy man), are there greener pastures?
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: booger on April 15, 2010, 07:10:34 PM Arrows are better than Termis [moto]
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: JustMike on April 15, 2010, 07:19:35 PM Arrows are better than Termis [moto] +1Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: He Man on April 15, 2010, 07:37:04 PM -1, i think termis sound and look better than arrows.
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: Edward_Wolf on April 15, 2010, 07:43:22 PM -1, i think termis sound and look better than arrows. Termignoni overrules arrow, looks and sound. I did got arrows on my previous Duc, now I got Termi on my new 696+, I do prefer Termi. And I still smile when I start my bike. Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: vwboomer on April 15, 2010, 07:49:41 PM You want what everyone's got or something different? I prefer something different. I've got a remus set on my S4R and really love it.
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: Veloce-Fino on April 15, 2010, 08:23:46 PM Boom Tubes! - for when you need the whole damn world to know you have a small penis and your proud of it.
Seriously though I would get them, totally bad ass. And no, I don't have a small piece. Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: Heath on April 15, 2010, 08:36:40 PM It is all personal preference. When I had my zards I wanted some discontinued Termi's (which I have now). Then I heard arrows and wanted those instead. Talk about a thump and bass! I was content with my zards though and didn't want to make the change. Then I found a last pair of Termi's (thanks motowheels) and changed to those.
So I guess you could say I like to graze in difference pastures. All of them were good, some better then others. I am happy where I am at now though. By all means though make the decision yourself from hearing them in person. Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: ungeheuer on April 15, 2010, 09:46:22 PM It is all personal preference. +1. You may as well ask whats the best flavoured ice cream. I'm sure theres somebody out there who eats the strawberry section of the Neapolitan first.... lol...Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: RAT900 on April 15, 2010, 10:01:03 PM I am quite happy with my Sil-NCR titanium 105dB slip-on round's...
they are pretty close sound-wise to a set of old TBR's with toasted packing. Thundering low-end base that spins up to a near Formula 1 howl. Earplugs might be a good idea but they are titanium and will dent if you stare at them too hard. Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: DucHead on April 16, 2010, 01:16:37 AM The answers are completely subjective. Check each out for yourself.
I've had Termis and Boomtubes, and frankly I'd have to hear them side-by-side to render an opinion. Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: hatewinter on April 16, 2010, 04:32:21 AM That answers it. I figured that there would be some clear cut winner. Kind of sucks that I don't know anyone with a monster, so I won't be hearing them side by side anytime too soon.
thanks for the input Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: DucatiTorrey on April 16, 2010, 05:55:49 AM Arrows are better than Termis [moto] i ahve termis on my 696, carbon, and I love the sound, but am seriously considering going to these http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/docs/products?id=1652 (http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/docs/products?id=1652) I am trying to sell my termis slip ons (anyone?) has anybody heard these arrows before? as loud as termis w/ db killers removed? sound difference? thanks! DT Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: jim_0068 on April 16, 2010, 07:48:06 AM what bike do you have?
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: Goat_Herder on April 16, 2010, 08:56:56 AM I am leaning more and more toward the boomtubes. I think a SSSA benefits most from not having the pipes to obstruct the view of the rear wheel.
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: DucatiTorrey on April 16, 2010, 09:02:53 AM I am leaning more and more toward the boomtubes. I think a SSSA benefits most from not having the pipes to obstruct the view of the rear wheel. i've always thought the same. Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: MonsterTom on April 16, 2010, 10:25:24 AM i ahve termis on my 696, carbon, and I love the sound, but am seriously considering going to these http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/docs/products?id=1652 (http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/docs/products?id=1652) I am trying to sell my termis slip ons (anyone?) has anybody heard these arrows before? as loud as termis w/ db killers removed? sound difference? Be sure to post a pic of those arrows once you install them. I've never seen those before, I like them and the price is right. No one has mentioned what I would have percieved to be the biggest advantage of the boomtubes.......eliminating the weight of the exhaust up high. I would also think there would be less heat eminating from under the seat. Maybe these are imperctable in real world riding?? thanks! DT Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: DucatiTorrey on April 16, 2010, 10:38:15 AM Hey Tom, looks like you wrote inside the quote there. THe boomtubes do reduce weight, but theyre more of an esthetic design, and loudness. Looks nice with a SSS
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: pennyrobber on April 16, 2010, 11:19:26 AM I would say Arrows. The full S*R systems sound great. I know alot of people with Termi slip-ons and full systems and I think those sound great as well. I think the deciding difference for me was the more raw sound of the Arrows.
As for boomtubes, well, it takes a special kind of rider to run boomtubes. [cheeky] Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: hatewinter on April 16, 2010, 11:58:14 AM Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: Triple J on April 16, 2010, 12:29:15 PM Remus sound the best in my opinion. [thumbsup]
Termi and Arrow sound good as well. Most brands sound good though. Boomtubes look great on the SSS monsters, but I'm leery of how they'll sound. NO FHE, but I suspect they'll lose some of the bass that makes Ducatis sound so great. Kinda like hearing a 916 vs. a D16RR. Both sound good...but the 916 sounds great. Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: WetDuc on April 16, 2010, 02:19:42 PM I am leaning more and more toward the boomtubes. I think a SSSA benefits most from not having the pipes to obstruct the view of the rear wheel. I really have to completely agree with this. Motocreations boomtubes elimination of exhaust cans is so dang cool looking. [thumbsup]Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: muskrat on April 16, 2010, 04:39:32 PM I think zards are nicer than the rest, this from a termi owner
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: DucatiSTi on April 16, 2010, 04:45:17 PM I just put a set of carbon Arrows on my 696
(http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff68/007wabbit/IMG_0179.jpg) My brother-in-law has the carbon Termis on his 696 I think that the sound from both is very close However, I like the more streamlined shape of the Arrows - not really a fan of the shape of the Termis I also think that the welds on the Arrows are better - carbon looks like it comes from the same source In the end - just a matter of preference Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: MonsterTom on April 17, 2010, 05:08:14 AM I would say Arrows. The full S*R systems sound great. I know alot of people with Termi slip-ons and full systems and I think those sound great as well. I think the deciding difference for me was the more raw sound of the Arrows. As for boomtubes, well, it takes a special kind of rider to run boomtubes. [cheeky] Are the boomtubes that much louder than Termi's? I understood that with the baffles in they were on par with some of the other exhaust systems in terms of loudness. Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: hatewinter on April 17, 2010, 07:34:45 AM oooh what about leo vince?
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: jdupont4 on April 17, 2010, 08:22:16 AM I have a set of ART exhausts on my 01 m750 and compared them to an 99 m900 with arrows. I like my ART ones better but that doesn't help you much considering that they don't make them anymore.
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: Veloce-Fino on April 17, 2010, 08:25:13 AM Are the boomtubes that much louder than Termi's? I understood that with the baffles in they were on par with some of the other exhaust systems in terms of loudness. I would love to know as well. I want some noise but I don't want to be setting bystanders on fire and exploding old ladies. Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: jim_0068 on April 17, 2010, 10:39:22 AM I saw a set of Remus dual high mount on a DSS monster and it looked/sounded awesome.
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: pennyrobber on April 17, 2010, 10:56:23 AM Are the boomtubes that much louder than Termi's? I understood that with the baffles in they were on par with some of the other exhaust systems in terms of loudness. The boomtubes I have heard did not have baffles to my recollection. They were fairly loud and definitely louder than Termi's. Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: erichan8757 on April 17, 2010, 01:49:34 PM Termignoni overrules arrow, looks and sound. I did got arrows on my previous Duc, now I got Termi on my new 696+, I do prefer Termi. And I still smile when I start my bike. ------------- +1 on Termi, they just sound great. I like the look of some Zard's tho, Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: koko64 on April 18, 2010, 08:52:17 PM Whatever you can get at a good price. I reckon Termis are overpriced as are many exhausts.
Suppose they gotta get a return on the R&D, but very expensive. I got the Termis because they were a second hand bargain and they were the oval carbon type made specifically for older Monsters. If I was buying new I would buy locally made (Australia) Megacycle mufflers. I bet there are some great local manufacturers in the States that are probably cheaper and just as good as Termignoni/Remus/Arrow, etc. What about Vance and Hines, Two Bros, etc? From what I can tell, there are local guys who could make you anything you want if you wanna be different. Good luck [drink] Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: Edward_Wolf on April 19, 2010, 12:31:38 AM that's because you dont have SF in your garage yet... ------------- +1 on Termi, they just sound great. I like the look of some Zard's tho, SF???? Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: DucNaked on April 19, 2010, 12:57:27 AM SF???? street fighterTitle: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: MsTek on April 19, 2010, 05:11:30 AM I can try to post an HD video of my Arrows on my 2006 S2R if it would help any. I had the stock exhaust but I loved the Arrows so I got them. Once they were put on my bike, I think I had the biggest smile ever. =)
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: ctrain on April 19, 2010, 08:43:14 AM I just put a set of Zards on my S2R1K. LOVE THEM!! I considered just about everything and narrowed it down to Termis, Arrows and Zards. In the end I wanted to keep the back wheel open. I was riding without cans on for a long time and loved the look. But as far as sound goes for Zards, I love it.
Its all just personal preference. I found that it is hard to tell a difference in sound through videos. Although I have heard both termis and arrows in person but not in the same day. I went with what I thought looked the best. Its all a matter of personal preference. Go with what you like... its YOUR bike! [thumbsup] Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: Veloce-Fino on April 19, 2010, 09:38:13 AM I just put a set of Zards on my S2R1K. LOVE THEM!! I considered just about everything and narrowed it down to Termis, Arrows and Zards. In the end I wanted to keep the back wheel open. I was riding without cans on for a long time and loved the look. But as far as sound goes for Zards, I love it. Its all just personal preference. I found that it is hard to tell a difference in sound through videos. Although I have heard both termis and arrows in person but not in the same day. I went with what I thought looked the best. Its all a matter of personal preference. Go with what you like... its YOUR bike! [thumbsup] If you love the open tail look why not go with an ex-box or ryanracing H-Competition Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: ctrain on April 19, 2010, 10:44:54 AM If you love the open tail look why not go with an ex-box or ryanracing H-Competition I didnt like the ex-box because IMO it looks exactly like the nasty udder that I was trying to get rid of. As far as the ryanracing H-competition, I dont know anything about that system or what it looks like. Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: Veloce-Fino on April 19, 2010, 04:42:32 PM I didnt like the ex-box because IMO it looks exactly like the nasty udder that I was trying to get rid of. As far as the ryanracing H-competition, I dont know anything about that system or what it looks like. n/m ryanracing is only available for the 696/1100. If you want open tail and hate the QD then go with the boom tubes.. To be honest, I always likes the stacked same side exhaust on the S*R's. In CF it looks great. Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: Ademoraes on April 21, 2010, 11:05:25 AM I had Titanium Remus, but swithed to Carbon Arrow. Love the sound and look of the Arrows! [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: lawbreaker on April 21, 2010, 04:36:35 PM Personally, I've narrowed it down to these for my S2R 1000:
Boomtubes...Arrows(in CF !)... and Sparks with oval cans ( Look the Business ).. [thumbsup] Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: DucatiTorrey on April 22, 2010, 02:30:41 AM i have termi carbon slip ons, and im super worried about uv damage, ive only had the bike one year, but already i swear i can see it happening. im considering a move to arrow darks.
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: ctrain on April 22, 2010, 03:47:20 AM i have termi carbon slip ons, and im super worried about uv damage, ive only had the bike one year, but already i swear i can see it happening. im considering a move to arrow darks. That is why i went with Ti instead of CF on my pipes. I love the look of the CF but after a short while, the CF gets damaged from the road, sun and normal wear. I had the dealer take me into their shop and show me bikes they were working on that had CF pipes and were slowly getting damaged. http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=35884.msg628650#msg628650 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=35884.msg628650#msg628650) Im going to get the pipes ceramic coated black instead. [thumbsup] Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: pennyrobber on April 22, 2010, 06:32:35 AM My carbon arrows are 4 years old and have about 25,000 miles on them and still look awesome.
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: Vin on April 22, 2010, 02:52:59 PM 18K on TI Arrows and they look nizza!
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: Veloce-Fino on April 22, 2010, 04:28:33 PM 18K on TI Arrows and they look nizza! The awesomeness of just what nizza is escapes me. But I agree. Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: jwoconnor on April 23, 2010, 04:34:10 PM Arrow build quality is superior to the Termi systems I have seen lately. Sound is good on both. The Ti Arrows also crash very well.
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: muskrat on April 23, 2010, 06:45:28 PM i have termi carbon slip ons, and im super worried about uv damage, ive only had the bike one year, but already i swear i can see it happening. im considering a move to arrow darks. Have them re-cleared with automotive clear. I did this on my dull termis and they look better than new ever did Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: DucatiTorrey on April 24, 2010, 04:20:08 AM yeah i have heard of people doing that, but my termis clear is super thin, i can feel the carbon weave. I don't see it being sand-able
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: Veloce-Fino on April 25, 2010, 01:43:55 PM I'm going to cross post these pics from another 696 arrow thread. Do you think it would be possible to have an exhaust shop tuck the arrows closer under the rear seat of the bike. Basically side by side under the seat.
(http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp17/wisdesign/Arrow_Slipons_4.jpg) (http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp17/wisdesign/Arrow_Slipons_3.jpg) (http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp17/wisdesign/Arrow_Slipons_1.jpg) (http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp17/wisdesign/Arrow_Exhaust_5.jpg) (http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp17/wisdesign/Arrow_Exhaust_1.jpg) Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: pennyrobber on April 25, 2010, 01:59:02 PM (http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp17/wisdesign/Arrow_Slipons_4.jpg) Those things are beauties. [bacon] Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: Veloce-Fino on April 25, 2010, 02:05:42 PM You know, I love them but one of the guys I ride with who just doesn't understand Italian style says that all the dual side cans on the 696 make it look like a slow touring bike... He rides a full size victory 1500. But my bike looks slow with dual cans...
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: DoWorkSon on April 25, 2010, 02:38:57 PM I'm going to cross post these pics from another 696 arrow thread. Do you think it would be possible to have an exhaust shop tuck the arrows closer under the rear seat of the bike. Basically side by side under the seat. I believe Raux is doing something similar.... The issues would be 1. fabricating new midpipe and 2. where does the license plate and turn signals go? I bet if you purchased a mid-pipe from Ryanracer for his underseat exhaust(just mid-pipe), and then were able to have a exhaust shop weld a Y-pipe which pushed the slipons together then yea, it is probably doable. The stock 696 mid-pipe/Y-pipe are all one peice.. You would just need to fabricate some mounts for the exhaust to be supported, which might be easy Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: muskrat on April 25, 2010, 04:18:01 PM Mine were the same and turned out great. What have you got to lose?
Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: Veloce-Fino on April 25, 2010, 06:47:38 PM I believe Raux is doing something similar.... The issues would be 1. fabricating new midpipe and 2. where does the license plate and turn signals go? I bet if you purchased a mid-pipe from Ryanracer for his underseat exhaust(just mid-pipe), and then were able to have a exhaust shop weld a Y-pipe which pushed the slipons together then yea, it is probably doable. The stock 696 mid-pipe/Y-pipe are all one peice.. You would just need to fabricate some mounts for the exhaust to be supported, which might be easy This makes it sound fairly do-able. Buy the arrow slipons, Ryan's midpipe and have my friends at Fast By Ferracci fab me up a y-pipe. I bet I could re-purpose the factory hangers to use with the under seat setup. I wonder how it would effect the rear lights and license plate. It might be more feasible to just have them tucked in much closer to the tail of the bike. Instead of being fully under the tail just much closer, under the turn signals possibly or partially under the tail on the sides of the license plate (w/ my R&G fender kit) Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: Triple J on April 26, 2010, 06:43:02 AM I'm going to cross post these pics from another 696 arrow thread. Do you think it would be possible to have an exhaust shop tuck the arrows closer under the rear seat of the bike. Basically side by side under the seat. Those Arrows look great! [thumbsup] You'll also run into clearance issues with the back tire when the suspension compresses if you put them under the seat. Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: DoWorkSon on April 26, 2010, 07:38:04 AM Those Arrows look great! [thumbsup] You'll also run into clearance issues with the back tire when the suspension compresses if you put them under the seat. the H-competition exhaust has plenty of clearance and no issues.... if you were to turn the slipons so they were horizontal, rather that vertical I believe that they would easily clear the rear fender... But I am not sure how wide they are and it would have to be a consideration when putting them on Title: Re: Termi's, boomtubes, arrow...??? Post by: Triple J on April 26, 2010, 07:47:22 AM the H-competition exhaust has plenty of clearance and no issues.... if you were to turn the slipons so they were horizontal, rather that vertical I believe that they would easily clear the rear fender... But I am not sure how wide they are and it would have to be a consideration when putting them on Maybe. The H-Competition exhaust doesn't extend all the way over the rear tire though, which helps with clarance. Clearance is the main reason you don't see undertail exhaust on Monsters. |