I bought a pair. I nstalled them. You have shit for adjustment when your on the bike. You litterally have to carry an Allen key around just to get them adjusted right. Because they expect you to aim your mirror sitting on the bike looking into the back of your garage.
and who the make the beast with two backs idea was it to put mirrors that make everything look bigger? you realize the thing is only 2" inches tall right? that means i get a nice very personal look at the driver whos picking their nose.
Bling factor: 10
Functionality: -5, that's right a negative. these mirrors make the beast with two backsing suck.
[bang] [bang]
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dont buy these pieces of crap
Don't buy mirrors which aren't convex glass. Bling over functionality - that's unusual [laugh]
Sorry you had to find out the hard way :-\
(don't link to this post when you try to sell them?)
Quote from: stopintime on May 01, 2010, 02:46:13 PM
Don't buy mirrors which aren't convex glass. Bling over functionality - that's unusual [laugh]
Sorry you had to find out the hard way :-\
(don't link to this post when you try to sell them?)
its a flat mirror.... taht make the beast with two backsing magnifys. I may just try to ge the mirror swapped out.
Seirously though, i thought when buying rizoma i was getting classy functionality. People will probably still buy them off me just cause its rizoma.
[thumbsup]
I really dig my radial nakeds.
The mirrors can be adjusted whilst riding. You just need a little touch with the allen key. ;)
If you go to Rizoma's site they tell you which mirrors meet TUV and/or E-Homologation. If they meet neither you can assume they are decoration.
Quote from: R0CKETMAN on May 01, 2010, 05:51:02 PMI really dig my radial nakeds.
+1
Quote from: howie on May 02, 2010, 02:22:28 AM
If you go to Rizoma's site they tell you which mirrors meet TUV and/or E-Homologation. If they meet neither you can assume they are decoration.
+1
boo mirrors in general.
Quote from: pompetta on May 02, 2010, 01:47:32 AM
The mirrors can be adjusted whilst riding. You just need a little touch with the allen key. ;)
I hope the windshield of a car has the ability to stop an 8mm allen key. :o
Thanks howie, these are apparently not rated for anything except
"Mirrors equipped with High-Quality “Blue Style†Mirror-Glasses, "amber" Mirror-Glass or convex mirror glass"
Convex? no. Blue Style...great but how does that help me see anything?
Ugh. For sale. The radials looks awesome!
Such drama. I like that the Rizoma's are tight. They don't blow around and shift position and is it really that hard to aim them while sitting in front of the house? As for functionality, I don't remember anyone ever commenting on being able to see better with Rizoma mirrors, only that they look cool and you can in fact still see behind you.
Quote from: superjohn on May 02, 2010, 08:01:31 AM
Such drama. I like that the Rizoma's are tight. They don't blow around and shift position and is it really that hard to aim them while sitting in front of the house? As for functionality, I don't remember anyone ever commenting on being able to see better with Rizoma mirrors, only that they look cool and you can in fact still see behind you.
Buy them and tell me how they work for you.
Quote from: a m on May 02, 2010, 06:58:42 AM
boo mirrors in general.
He Man,
I was just going to pull the trigger on the Circuit 743 or the Prototype Nakeds.
Can you post a picture of the mirror side to show what you are referring to? Are they THAT bad (i.e. as useless as you claim they are?
PM me if you'd like to sell them? 8)
will post some pics later ut..
(http://www.motovationusa.com/mvstore/ProdImages/BS020BA_lg.jpg)
the right most tip o the bar that holds hte mirror. that bolt allows the mirror to turn up and down. the mirror itself can only spin.
if you want to lower or raise the mirror, you adjust the pivot bolt that connects the mirror, to the mirror mount.
If you want to move the mirror towards or away from you, you adjust the main bolt which is a different key from the rest of the bike.
And it isnt a mirror where you can lossen, adjust and then tighten. If you loosen the bolts, the mirror drops to a neutral position, so youll have to use both hands to hold it until you get it right. And you cant loosen all of them at the same time, other wise the mirror will just fall and hit your bar.
Again, its a stupid design, and i figured rizoma would be more intuitive in designing the mirror. IT looks pretty sweet though.
go with the prototypes thee mirror looks like it can actually pivot around.
I have the predecessor to those, they work fine.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/pompino/DSCN2362.jpg)
Quote from: pompetta on May 02, 2010, 01:01:39 PM
I have the predecessor to those, they work fine.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/pompino/DSCN2362.jpg)
Man that whole thing looks beautiful... [thumbsup]
Quote from: pompetta on May 02, 2010, 01:01:39 PM
I have the predecessor to those, they work fine.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d147/pompino/DSCN2362.jpg)
can ur mirrors move around?
i don't care whose they are, or how adjustable they may be, their usefulness on a motorcycle is going to be pretty limited. Also, I can't think of any motorcycle where I saw it and thought, "it would look better if we just put some mirrors on it...its just so incomplete without them"
The first thing I take off when working on my bike is the mirrors. I don't want to constantly bump into them etc while working because, if there's one thing I don't want to spend money on for a bike, its mirrors... And at the end of a project, there's always that painful moment where I put them back on - after staring at how nice it looks without them.
so,
Quote from: a m on May 02, 2010, 06:58:42 AM
boo mirrors in general.
Quote from: pompetta on May 02, 2010, 01:47:03 PM
Yes.
>:( why cant mine move. i even sprayed WD40 thinking it it was jammed
to the PMs, heres the pic of my mirrors. You ahve to move any of the 3 bolts to either
a) spin it on the master cylinder
b) rotate the mirror arm about the mount
c) move the mirror up and down
And to note that if you release any of the bolts, that specific part that you are trying to move, will have spin and either get tighter or looser becasue of friction holding onto the bolt. So you have to use 2 hands when adjusting any 1 part. whcih sucks becasue if you adjust one part and its perfect you just need it to be more foward, it changes the view, and when you try to tighen it, the mirror moves the slightest bit since the bolt pulls on it and it shifts. so you try to hold it down and tighten it, but you end up moving it a bit. It wouldnt be that bad if the mirror wasnt a miniture magnifying glass....
the mirror only spins as if you were looking at the hands on a clock on the wall.
(http://kuixihe.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=559&g2_serialNumber=1)
what are mirrors?
Have a look at the back of the actual mirror head. Unless I'm very much mistook, it has a pivot point about which you can twist, incline and rotate the mirror without any tools whatsoever. My Rizoma mirrors are not the same type as yours, but the way in which they mount is exactly the same. Tighten up all the bolts more or less in as you want it to be. And then be brave, using nothing more than your hand, twist the mirror head with a little.... persuasion. It needs to be tight so it doesnt flop around on the move, but I'm pretty sure it will move if you give it a decent tweak.
Quote from: ungeheuer on May 04, 2010, 09:57:39 PM
Have a look at the back of the actual mirror head. Unless I'm very much mistook, it has a pivot point about which you can twist, incline and rotate the mirror without any tools whatsoever.
My nakeds have the same mounts/stems. I get mine adjusted so they are as high and wide as possible, then get my field of view as Ung stated from rotating the mirror head. I'm sure you know this, but "thou shalt never assume."
Quote from: ungeheuer on May 04, 2010, 09:57:39 PM
...it has a pivot point about which you can twist, incline and rotate the mirror without any tools whatsoever...
Yup.
Quote from: ungeheuer on May 04, 2010, 09:57:39 PM
Have a look at the back of the actual mirror head. Unless I'm very much mistook, it has a pivot point about which you can twist, incline and rotate the mirror without any tools whatsoever. My Rizoma mirrors are not the same type as yours, but the way in which they mount is exactly the same. Tighten up all the bolts more or less in as you want it to be. And then be brave, using nothing more than your hand, twist the mirror head with a little.... persuasion. It needs to be tight so it doesnt flop around on the move, but I'm pretty sure it will move if you give it a decent tweak.
Where's the drama in that?
I also have rizomas, i also cant see anything out of them (except my elbows)
i have to move my head around to see if there are cars
but they sure look pretty!
I'm just saying, i don't see the big deal of spending big dollars on mirrors and/or complaining about mirrors - they generally all suck for visibility because of the position limitations of bars, and those that "can" function well, look like ass. And yet again, the mirror glass is fairly tiny in comparison to what's available for cars - its just easier to move your head for all but "what is coming up directly behind me while i sit at this stoplight - do they see me?"
So, as far as dropping coin on mirrors, I think most are simply cosmetic jewelry.
You would think that an expensive replacement mirror would work as good as a stock mirror, but they don't. I'm on my second set and still disappointed.
Quote from: Armor on May 05, 2010, 07:47:26 AM
You would think that an expensive replacement mirror would work as good as a stock mirror..
??? ??? ???
Why would you think that? Just
look at many of them...no surprise at all. Caveat emptor.
i thought the mirror was suppose to be able to move around. it doesnt. it only spins. ive tried cleaning hte pivot with WD40,and no amount of strength short of breaking it will get it move any direction except to spin around the pivot.
You cant always turn your head when theres 20 cars around you. A mirror really helps. you look at the mirror to see if anyone is on your ass, or when your stopping, you can take a look at your mirror to see if someone is going to ram into you, or do something stupid like touch your rear wheel with their bumper, you dont need to strain your neck to see if a cop if following you.
The only set of mirrors i ever used that i think were awesome where the Napoleon Barends. they just a little bit smaller than a car mirror and offered great visability
yeah well napoleans look like a turd brick attached to your handlebar
i thought the CRG hindsight, LS etc are awesome with great views from the convex glass
i like the view of my CRG clones. It had a convex mirror and you saw a lot. but it was a hassle to look down all the time.....and see my mirror broken everytime someone knocked it over.
Quote from: He Man on May 05, 2010, 08:20:20 AM
everytime someone knocked it over.
yikes is this a weekly occurence that someone knocks ur duc over?
time for some HD style crash bars!
Quotetime for some HD style crash bars!
hell no. lol
Nah my bike gets knocked over atleast 3 times a year. and hten i go down atleat once a year.
Quote from: redial on May 05, 2010, 08:10:17 AM
yeah well napoleans look like a turd brick attached to your handlebar
...
Hells yeah they did. Mine got the 86 for the clunky appearance and the whole constantly twisting in the breeze problem.
I commute on my bike daily in heavy traffic with a fair amount of lane splitting. I got a set of Rizoma Retros (convex) since I like bling and the CRGs, while nice looking, took my eyes too far down (and off the road) to be considered safe for me.
Which is a long-winded way of saying "Convex mirrors, well-mounted = not crashing"