One of our toilets leaks water past the flapper valve so it periodically has to refill the tank on it's own.
I put in a new flapper and the leak has not stopped.
What should I do next.
Never had to troubleshoot one of these before.
the long tube that runs up from the bottom of the tank may need to me replaced or tightened, water may be leaking past it
When I was a tyke, we had a 3 holer outside - never had any problems flushing!
like bp said. also check the chain length, make sure there is slop
Quote from: WarrenJ on June 16, 2010, 05:58:56 PM
When I was a tyke, we had a 3 holer outside - never had any problems flushing!
you shit in a bowling ball?
If you manually push the flapper down does it form a good seal? Or does it still leak?
All good points.
Will check the flapper and tube thing tomorrow and report back.
Also - all flappers are not made equal! I have found the $10 ones superior to the $4 ones. The cheaper ones also do not last as long.
mitt
For a small leak, put some food dye in the tank so you can detect it easier.
also make sure there isn't anything built up on the edge of the flapper. You often get scale on the flapper & the tube it seals. That will allow water to get past. Somegirls's dye suggestion would be the easiest way to tell.
DM&TF
Ducati Monster and TOILET Forum.
Where shit goes down. ;D
Replace it.
I spent so much money on make the beast with two backsing flapper kits and flusher valves and whatever else goes in there.
Long story short........toilet was built in 1980 and they don't make the proper size replacement parts.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on June 17, 2010, 04:15:38 AM
Replace it.
I spent so much money on make the beast with two backsing flapper kits and flusher valves and whatever else goes in there.
Long story short........toilet was built in 1980 and they don't make the proper size replacement parts.
how much did your neighbor charge you for that advice?
Quote from: bobspapa on June 17, 2010, 05:00:00 AM
how much did your neighbor charge you for that advice?
some shitty amount that he pissed away...
Quote from: zooom on June 17, 2010, 05:06:38 AM
some shitty amount that he pissed away...
Yeah. He probably made a big flap about it, then old him to scat.
Quote from: bobspapa on June 17, 2010, 05:00:00 AM
how much did your neighbor charge you for that advice?
I tried to fix myself before replacement.
I just couldn't find a flapper that fit properly.
That is what led to replacement.
jerk
[laugh]
wax ring 4.95
new stopper kit 10.95
new handle 6.95
hours spent spent running back and forth to home depot 8.97
Having neighbor tell you that he would have just replaced the stupid thing for half the price spent priceless
When installing your toilets check with our local state/county for rebates..
Low flow toilets 1.6 are fetching around 100 bucks a toilet
high efficiency toilets 1.28 are fetching around 200 dollars
I highly reccomend the kohler cimmeron 1.28 it has a great flush and will put down almost everything a human body can throw at it..
Just my 2 cents.. If anyone needs pluming help / walkthough just send me a pm I can call u.
Have a good one
M
Quote from: bobspapa on June 17, 2010, 06:31:40 AM
[laugh]
wax ring 4.95
new stopper kit 10.95
new handle 6.95
hours spent spent running back and forth to home depot 8.97
Having neighbor tell you that he would have just replaced the stupid thing for half the price spent priceless
Precisely.
When I moved into my current abode, the wax ring in the downstairs bathroom leaked ever so slightly. I never got around to it, and one day ran across a handyman's ad in the paper. It got fixed for less than $20 including parts and labor.
:)
Just put in a Glacier Bay dual flush toilet from Homeboy Depot. $158. Cones with wax ring, bolts, seat, everything. Wonder if it qualifies for the $200 credit?
Boys going to have a farm.
Dig a hole.
Quote from: rgramjet on June 17, 2010, 08:16:38 AM
Just put in a Glacier Bay dual flush toilet from Homeboy Depot. $158. Cones with wax ring, bolts, seat, everything. Wonder if it qualifies for the $200 credit?
I know a guy who got one of those to use as his punch bowl....he fills the bowl and then the tank with something different, but mixable with the 1st concoction and then when it gets low enough he refills with a flush!!!
i don't know if that's cool. . .
or disturbing.
Quote from: Little Plumber Boy on June 17, 2010, 06:38:11 AM
When installing your toilets check with our local state/county for rebates..
Low flow toilets 1.6 are fetching around 100 bucks a toilet
high efficiency toilets 1.28 are fetching around 200 dollars
I highly reccomend the kohler cimmeron 1.28 it has a great flush and will put down almost everything a human body can throw at it..
Just my 2 cents.. If anyone needs pluming help / walkthough just send me a pm I can call u.
Have a good one
M
All that good information, and you can't spell "plumbing" correctly. ;D
...or "recommend" or "walk-through."
Quote from: Little Plumber Boy on June 17, 2010, 06:38:11 AM
I highly reccomend the kohler cimmeron 1.28 it has a great flush and will put down almost everything a human body can throw at it..
Will not flush a cabbage... something that, unfortunately, a human body can and has thrown at it... and then tried to flush it...
Quote from: zooom on June 17, 2010, 08:25:23 AM
I know a guy who got one of those to use as his punch bowl....he fills the bowl and then the tank with something different, but mixable with the 1st concoction and then when it gets low enough he refills with a flush!!!
Toilet for a Punch Bowl you say? Well . . .
(http://www.xavierhoops.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=22&pictureid=278)
Quote from: pompetta on June 17, 2010, 08:33:43 AM
All that good information, and you can't spell "plumbing" correctly. ;D
...or "recommend" or "walk-through."
that is how plumers call plumin ;D
Quote from: pompetta on June 17, 2010, 08:33:43 AM
All that good information, and you can't spell "plumbing" correctly. ;D
...or "recommend" or "walk-through."
Well driving and texting on an iphone.. No worries.. I blame the fingers.. :) Just trying to help..
Well joy.
Turns out my leaking toilet may not have been leaking just at the flapper.
It has also been leaking at the shutoff valve.
And dripping / soaking onto / into my carpet.
And through the floor where it happily stained the celing in my sunroom under it.
I have pulled back the carpet, am running a dehumidifier at the rev limiter and have cut out all the soaked carpet pad.
The toilet seems to be listing toward the back left corner.
Where the floor is soaked and is likely make the beast with two backsed.
I am not happy [bang]
Isn't plumbing wonderful?
Anytime I have a leak here, I end up having to replace everything within sight of it too as everything breaks the moment you touch it.
Here is a shutoff valve.. The nut on the far right is called a packing nut. This nut needs to be tightened clock-wise, quarter turn at a time. 75 percent of the time it is leaking from the packing nut.
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c50/godzfireman/bc9271cb.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c50/godzfireman/16c66932.jpg)
If its leaking from the bottom of the toilet and leaking down the line there is a rubber seal on the fill valve.. You can replace the fill valve for 15 bucks and all you need is a pair of channels. Undo the bottom nut and it will pull straight out.
(http://travelogue.travelvice.com/postfiles/2008-03-17_western-toilet-reservoir-components.jpg)
Quote from: Monsterlover on June 17, 2010, 03:41:52 PM
Well joy.
Turns out my leaking toilet may not have been leaking just at the flapper.
It has also been leaking at the shutoff valve.
And dripping / soaking onto / into my carpet.
And through the floor where it happily stained the celing in my sunroom under it.
I have pulled back the carpet, am running a dehumidifier at the rev limiter and have cut out all the soaked carpet pad.
The toilet seems to be listing toward the back left corner.
Where the floor is soaked and is likely make the beast with two backsed.
I am not happy [bang]
Hey! Threadjacker! This is the toilet thread-bring your floor repair issues elsewhere.
That sucks, sorry to hear it. :(
Yep. I can't wait for that part of the project.
Quote from: Monsterlover on June 17, 2010, 08:31:28 AM
i don't know if that's cool. . .
or disturbing.
If you're answering the ...
boy's gonna have a farm comment...
it's cool.
Actually I was answering the toilet punch bowl thing.
I know farms are cool.
Farms have tractors and those are cool. So we must then infer that farms are cool. ;D
I shut off the valve and drained the tank.
I stuck a short bowl under it to catch drips.
I wanted to see if it was leaking between the valve and the wall.
No water in the bowl.
I just now opened the valve and filled the tank. I then shut the valve back off to see if it's leaking out of the tank and down the line.
I'll check it in the morning.
why do you have carpet in the bathroom?
/sent from my computer tethered to my android phone since i dont have internet yet
Ask the previous owners.
I'd never do it.
Quote from: Plumbers Crack on June 17, 2010, 04:21:43 PM
Here is a shutoff valve.. The nut on the far right is called a packing nut. This nut needs to be tightened clock-wise, quarter turn at a time. 75 percent of the time it is leaking from the packing nut.
and replace said shutoff valve with a ball valve.
I don't care for globe and gate valves, they tend to break when you finally decide to shut them after being open for years.
The valve seems to be ok.
I tightened up the packing nut 1/4 turn and it doesn't leak.
It does leak where the feed line goes up into the tank so I guess I'll stick another fill valve in there.
The dehumidifier dried things out thoroughly. I'm not going to get into pulling the toilet and replacing flooring. I'ts still pretty solid, just deformed a little.
:P
Quote from: herm on June 17, 2010, 05:33:40 PM
why do you have carpet in the bathroom?
/sent from my computer tethered to my android phone since i dont have internet yet
+1...kinda gross...
At least this happened,.. now you can get rid of carpet where it doesn't belong. [cheeky]
No way am I pulling the carpet up and putting money into flooring.
We're going to be selling the house in a couple months.