http://news.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf/dx/fake-ducati-in-movie-knight-and-day.-aprilia-used.htm (http://news.motorbiker.org/blogs.nsf/dx/fake-ducati-in-movie-knight-and-day.-aprilia-used.htm)
I think your sig line fits in well here.
wow, thats not good!
I am pretty sure they did it for the stills so Cruise's feet would touch the ground
Quote from: ducatiz on June 24, 2010, 04:02:59 AM
I am pretty sure they did it for the stills so Cruise's feet would touch the ground
the action pics look like a Hypermotard. Either way, this is a pic of the bike, supposedly on the set;
(https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4059/4712433407_1849bfd0d9.jpg)
That's funny! I see they put rains on the bike as well, which would last about 10 seconds on a dry road.
ich don't think so
(http://www.thetomcruise.com/userfiles/2010/4/1/images/Watch%20Tom%20Cruise%20and%20Cameron%20Diaz%20in%20Knight%20and%20Day.jpg)
They probably have a few bikes... And it's not like one couldn't lower a HM if they wanted to. IF there is an aprillia based one it might have been for some other special purpose and not just because he's short. That Apr is stock trim is about as tall as the HM
That pic also kinda doenst look like tom cruise... maybe they used the aprillia because the engine is much smoother and easier to stunt then the ducati is....i mean, massive engine braking and huge 2 cylinder. not particularly easy.
Maybe the Aprilia is used for the stunt shots because I'd imagine it could take the hit from a hardcore jump better being a considerably lighter more raceready supermoto.
That must have been the jump scene bike. That is not Cruise on the bike. That is a dummy riding pillion. Makes sense to use a more off road based bike for a bike air jump.
mitt
stop the presses..... something fake happened in a movie :o
That IS tom on the bike, and no he didnt do all the stunts, but did do some.
Had to use a Aprilia, as the cases and pipe hit the ground HARD when jumping the bike, however the large majority of the bike stuff in the movie is actually a Hyper.
Just not the jump.
I don't get it. The studio went to the trouble of replacing the Aprilia 's frame with a custom trellis frame?
Quote from: bobspapa on June 24, 2010, 05:57:01 AM
stop the presses..... something fake happened in a movie :o
+1
See the thread on the movie about 2/3 way down the page.
(http://bayarearidersforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=342168&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1277061537)
photochop all the way [roll] look at the details on that bike.
Quote from: Dave R on June 24, 2010, 06:20:38 AM
photochop all the way [roll] look at the details on that bike.
What is?
This month's Cycle World also has an action picture of the bike...it is clearly an Aprilia SXV.
Just like the commercial with a white 848 being jumped through an explosion...it is clearly a dirt bike made to look like an 848.
Whats next..... the A-Team van is really a Ford Windstar
I know.. CRUSHING to think that you cant REALLY jump your Hypermotard 60ft to a flat landing and ride away...
Someone oughta sue ducati over that
Quote from: RetroSBK on June 24, 2010, 07:32:59 AM
I know.. CRUSHING to think that you cant REALLY jump your Hypermotard 60ft to a flat landing and ride away...
Someone oughta sue ducati over that
Only after I try it.
That way I can get "pain and suffering".
If I spill a hot coffee on my crotch during the jump, I can retire! :D
Quote from: Triple J on June 24, 2010, 06:23:33 AM
What is?
This month's Cycle World also has an action picture of the bike...it is clearly an Aprilia SXV.
Just like the commercial with a white 848 being jumped through an explosion...it is clearly a dirt bike made to look like an 848.
subframe attached to air? footpegs attached to motor?? red and a black guard on the left front fork? custom crafted chassis with a different configuration than a Hyper? really?
(http://photos.imageevent.com/motorbiker/newspics3/Knight-Day-Ducati-Aprila.jpg)
Seems like a big hassle for no real reason to me. I don't see why people would be surprised by a bike more suited to doing jumps being used...and made to look like the sexier Ducati (nevermind Ducati likely being a paid sponsor).
(http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1//2010/06/cruise-shirtless/tom-cruise-shirtless-06.jpg)
(http://cdn.buzznet.com/media/jj1//2010/06/cruise-shirtless/tom-cruise-shirtless-10.jpg)
Paid sponsor... ROFL.. Yeah, doesnt happen. Not like you think it does. There isn't budget from a small mfg like Ducati to spend a million plus to get a placement in a movie. hell, even the big four tend to reject most of the placement ops that come their way.
Would you really want to see a CRF450 jumping through down town?
Understand that Jimmy did that jump several times, with the dummy on his back, on the SXV, with NO helmet, no gear, no wires, nada. Just his skill as a motorcycle rider and stuntman.
WAY too crazy for me.
Ok then...Ducati didn't pay for the placement. I agree that it's not a photoshop and is an SXV made to look like the Duc.
No comments about using a fake Cameron Diaz?!?
Quote from: Spidey on June 24, 2010, 11:23:17 AM
No comments about using a fake Cameron Diaz?!?
Well, none repeatable.
Quote from: Spidey on June 24, 2010, 11:23:17 AM
No comments about using a fake Cameron Diaz?!?
I wonder what mods we can do to her???
Quote from: M900 on June 24, 2010, 12:23:53 PM
I wonder what mods we can do to her???
Chopping the tail... does that become a wet bum mod the same as it does on a Duc?
Where can I get one of those fake Cameron Diaz's?
Quote from: TwoWheels on June 24, 2010, 03:20:42 PM
Where can I get one of those fake Cameron Diaz's?
here (http://tinyurl.com/2pl3g)
nsfw (by a mile)
so glad I wasn't at work when I went clicky.
What's the fuzz here ??? ..... It's movieland & it's normal to use stunt double for the STARS, is it not??? DUCATI is the star & the other bike is the hit man, .... so what?
Quote from: derby on June 24, 2010, 03:40:22 PM
here (http://tinyurl.com/2pl3g)
ok, that's just awesome... they have Color Cocks! Cyrus will be giddy with joy!
Quote from: ducatiz on June 24, 2010, 05:58:19 PM
ok, that's just awesome... they have Color Cocks! Cyrus will be giddy with joy!
[laugh] [laugh]
the reason they used the Aprilia is that Cruise is a midget.
End of story.
Ducatiz, when you guys hang out, he is a midget next to you?
Why bag on the guy? Hes a super cool guy that rides Motorcycles, I dont get the whole hating on him thing, unless its out of jealousy.
Quote from: RetroSBK on June 25, 2010, 06:15:04 AM
Ducatiz, when you guys hang out, he is a midget next to you?
Why bag on the guy? Hes a super cool guy that rides Motorcycles, I dont get the whole hating on him thing, unless its out of jealousy.
Tiz choked on a thetan communion wafer as a child...... been a hater ever since.
Quote from: ducatiz on June 25, 2010, 02:43:38 AM
the reason they used the Aprilia is that Cruise is a midget.
End of story.
eh...the seat height on a Hyper is 73mm (2.8") lower than on an SXV.
Tom Cruise is an odd guy in real life, but I really like his movies. And I'm excited to see more Ducatis in movies.
[popcorn]
(http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/drive-on/2010/06/25/cruisex-wide-community.jpg)
Grumble grumble
[laugh]
how come nobody has mentioned the black fork legs?
Quote from: bobspapa on June 25, 2010, 07:40:22 AM
[laugh]
how come nobody has mentioned the black fork legs?
2010 legs are black
Quote from: Dave R on June 25, 2010, 08:23:01 AM
2010 legs are black
but if you look at the movie bike pics....some are black.... some not so much :D
Are we really still complaining that something in a movie isn't real?
As for Tom Cruise: Tom Cruise Crazy Song by JoCo (http://www.jonathancoulton.com/mp3/Tom%20Cruise%20Crazy.mp3)
Quote from: derby on June 24, 2010, 03:40:22 PM
here (http://tinyurl.com/2pl3g)
i was laughing my ass off until i saw the price. for $6k i could find a real female willing to do me.
Quote from: RetroSBK on June 25, 2010, 06:15:04 AM
Ducatiz, when you guys hang out, he is a midget next to you?
Why bag on the guy? Hes a super cool guy that rides Motorcycles, I dont get the whole hating on him thing, unless its out of jealousy.
Not when I met him he wasn't. [roll] Sherman, CT circa 1995? give or take a year?
I'd say more, but he'd probably try to sue me or some shit.
Quote from: Bacon Junkie on June 25, 2010, 03:56:28 PM
Not when I met him he wasn't. [roll] Sherman, CT circa 1995? give or take a year?
I'd say more, but he'd probably try to sue me or some shit.
He can't sue you for such things. Let him try. I'll lead by example.
Know what I heard about Tom Cruise? I heard he can't orgasm unless
he kills a dog.
Quote from: MrIncredible on June 25, 2010, 03:58:35 PM
He can't sue you for such things. Let him try. I'll lead by example.
Know what I heard about Tom Cruise? I heard he can't orgasm unless he kills a dog.
How big & what kind of dog?
Quote from: derby on June 24, 2010, 03:40:22 PM
here (http://tinyurl.com/2pl3g)
:o [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [clap] [clap] [clap]
Quote from: MrIncredible on June 25, 2010, 03:58:35 PM
He can't sue you for such things. Let him try. I'll lead by example.
Know what I heard about Tom Cruise? I heard he can't orgasm unless he kills a dog.
:o That would be defamation/slander here in Oz! Mr Incredible is indestructible!
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
The only thing I'm jealous of Cruise over is he has a functioning p-51 mustang that he actually flies. That, and that he can afford to fly it.
And his mustang is not a made over aprilla, either.
Did someone say P-51? [evil]
P51 Low Level (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ziqo0XE8GA#normal)
Quote from: RetroSBK on June 25, 2010, 06:15:04 AM
Why bag on the guy? Hes a super cool guy that rides Motorcycles, I dont get the whole hating on him thing, unless its out of jealousy.
because he took Katie Holmes and turned her from this:
(http://www.femalecelebritywallpapers.com/wallpapers/Katie_Holmes/Katie_HolmesFSSk.jpg)
to this:
(http://www.babble.com/CS/blogs/famecrawler/2009/05/Katie_Holmes_pregnant.jpg)
and for that he is an asshole
Quote from: kopfjäger on June 25, 2010, 08:55:08 PM
Did someone say P-51? [evil]
I think the sound editor dubbed in an inline four engine on that. ;D
Saw the movie last night, and I've gotta say it was pretty dam good! [thumbsup]
I enjoyed pretty much every second of it, so if you haven't seen it, go do it!
^^^Scientologist
Quote from: ducatiz on June 26, 2010, 12:57:41 PM
^^^Scientologist
DOes he give DMF discounts on Emeters?
my emeter does 140
Last week we showed you an Aprilia SXV dressed up as a Ducati Hypermotard that Tom Cruise was riding on the set of "Knight and Day." A bit embarasing for Ducati, right? It was and it caught them by surprise, they didn't know about the bike and didn't know why it was being used. Now, with Ducati's help, we've gotten to the bottom of the story. Turns out it wasn't the Hypermotard's ability that was the problem, it was Cruise's.
According to Ducati and "Knight and Day's" stunt coordinator, Greg Smrz, the Ducprilia was at no point used for any scenes in the movie.
What the Aprilicati was created for was an ESPN promo in which Cruise himself decided to do a 30-foot long, 3-foot high jump on camera. Apparently the looney tune is a good rider, just not up to the standards of a movie stunt person and there was obviously some concern for his well being, helmetless jumps and all. Thus the SXVtard.
"He isn't as good a rider (although pretty good from what I hear) as the stunt guys, so they tried to make it at light as possible by using the Aprilia, and having a dummy passenger to make it easier and safer for him," explains Ducati. "It shaved 40% of the weight. They looked at pure dirt bikes as a cheaper alternative but the Aprilia was easiest to make look like the Hyper."
Greg Smrz explains further, "If you will note, there is a 50lbs dummy on the back of Tom's motorcycle. The reason for this is weight. In addition, the Aprilia has longer travel suspension."
That's right that weird-looking blonde chick on the back is actually a 50lbs weight intended to shift the bike + movie star + dummy's center of gravity backwards, ensuring the rear wheel would hit first when Cruise landed.
So if you see a Ducati in the film, it's a Ducati, albeit likely a heavily modified one. According to Ducati, the bike's ability to stick huge jumps was boosted by, "totally different fork, shocks, link, rear subframe, weld beads on engine mounts, re-enforced steering head and swingarm mounts." If you see a Ducati doing unrealistic things in the movie though, that's probably CGI.
http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/06/the-real-story-behind-tom-crui.html#more (http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2010/06/the-real-story-behind-tom-crui.html#more)
Now that we have the story cleared up, I can finally get some sleep at night. [cheeky]
Well there you have it
I was right
Aprilia used because Cruise is a midget. Redd Foxx would have loved him.
Thank goodness! [moto]